Will The Dolphins Recommit To The Ground Game?

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  1. Mach2

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    In the past 5 seasons, the only SB participant that passed more than 55%, during the regular season were the Broncos 59% pass. The falcons were exactly 55% pass. The others were all under that, and Carolina actually ran more than they passed by a small margin.

    Where are you seeing all these pass happy SB teams?
     
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    This is my favorite post you have ever made. :)
     
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    Eight of the top ten teams in run play percentage made the playoffs last year, including both Super Bowl teams.
     
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    Over the years I wondered to myself why the hell they would do that. It was all too often they'd come out running and with fairly good results only to give up on it and ultimately lose the game. Seems they were always quick to abandon it no matter the effectiveness of it. Very frustrating.
     
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    It's amazing how many ppl are either oblivious to, or just flat out ignore this fact.

    The reality is, many of the pass attempts in todays game (WR screens, swing passes, etc) are really just extensions of a running game, so that skews the percentages slightly, as well.
     
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    Like in any other sport, tempo is based on the amount of talent you have on the team. Do other teams have more talent than you? Run the ball a bazillion times to shorten the amount of possessions each team has. Are you loaded on offense? Go super fast paced to give your team more opportunities to score while other teams fall behind.

    When you're out-manned, you have a much better chance to win if each team theoretically only had one possession. When you're oozing with playmakers, nobody is going to beat you if each team had 100 possessions. We belong in the former so if Flores is indeed a good coach, you're going to see us really, really, really try to run the ball and do it often. Call it boring if you want, but speeding up the tempo with the least talented team in the NFL is the quickest way to 0-16.
     
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    Nail... meet hammer. And it would have worked if they had at least been balanced about it.
     
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    Lets run it with a lack of an oline so we can get off the field and let our 25th - 32nd ranked defense handle the heavy lifting. We are gonna have to score some points to be remotely successful because this defense is gonna be a cesspool. I dont care how good the coaching is. The pats defense last year was 21st in total defense. They played well in the playoffs but it wasnt some world beating defense. They just had an offense that averaged 27 points per game to get them through the regular season.

    Our offense cant be some ball control conservative offense is what I'm saying. Our defense isnt built for that.
     
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    I don't think many are advocating for "three yds, in a cloud of dust" offense.

    Most, including myself, are just saying balance is the best way to go, and looking at history, the lion's share of perennial playoff caliber teams are able to run the ball effectively.
     
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    For a guy that came to town with a big reputation as an OC, Gase had little to no feel for his own offense. When we were pushing the other team around and they couldn't stop the run, Gase would take his foot off their throats and starts throwing flanker screens. Off course, Ajayi went postal!! They couldn't stop him in certain games and Gase never fed him the rock. No matter how hot Ajayi was Gase would go away from him and start trying all kinds of cute stuff. It was hard to watch! 3rd and 1 with Frank Gore in the backfield and Gase calls some low percentage back shoulder pass to Gisecki!! It was nuts! From watching Shula to watching Gase is like different sports!
     
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    The Patriots also had the best rushing attack in the NFL. I don't know what you're getting at here.
     
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    What? You don't like zero yard passes on 3rd and half a yard?
     
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    They also have one of the best oline coaches/ best olines in football. Trying to pound the ball with a suspect oline and suspect defense isnt gonna be our meal ticket. Our best unit on the team maybe our wide receivers lets play to that.
     
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    We have to run the ball more, part of the reason Rosen was so bad last year from what I've read probably had a lot to do with their 32 ranked rushing attack.

    Running the ball protects the QB in SOOOO many ways, if they wanna keep Rosen alive to see his 23rd birthday (keep eating that cake Fitz) with our offensive line we better run the damn ball a lot more than Gase wanted to.

    Just me 2 cents, if I ever coached football I would tell my team we will run the ball 100% of the time unless the defense has something to say about it :punch
     
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    The whole point of running the ball is to protect your defense. If our defense is suspect, then they need all the help they can get and that doesn't include 3 and outs because we decided to throw 2-3 times where we throw the defense right back out on to the field.

    You keep talking about how we don't have a good Oline, but I might also remind you that we don't have a good QB either so I don't know why you're for throwing it all over the place. You're placing a lot of blame on the Oline for not being able to run, but it's not just them. The TEs we had couldn't block, we didn't play with a fullback, and our genius playcaller loved to throw on short yardage situations so at least this year we won't have that going against us.

    This trend of passing offenses is going to circle around just like most trends in sports. Teams are building their defenses with smaller, faster linebackers and safeties to protect against the pass. Well... what are they going to do against a large, ground and pound offense? Teams literally don't have the personnel to stop it consistently these days which is why I think you'll see fullbacks trickle back into the league once people start realizing what is going on.
     
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