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"I don't know if Miami has made up their mind about Tua, but the next two months are important for him to show the league he can be a guy you can win football games with," former NFL QB and ESPN analyst Dan Orlovsky said last week, before the game against the Ravens. "That means winning the game in the fourth quarter. Then you can elevate to a guy that you win because of, but there's only a small handful of those guys."
 
Which game this year did Tua not win or put his team in position to win in the 4th quarter other than at Buffalo? @NE, @JAX, ATL, BAL.

He has also put us in a position to lose alot of those games…

I agree with the article, this is his time to show he can continue to develop and show some consistency.
 
It shouldn't be this hard to score touchdowns. Tua has to show he can guide an offense that puts up points.

This is the easiest schedule I can remember we've had in recent years and completely blew it the first 8 games.

By season's end we'll know, it'll be obvious.
 
Which game this year did Tua not win or put his team in position to win in the 4th quarter other than at Buffalo? @NE, @JAX, ATL, BAL.

New England: Was the opener so I don't hold any rust against players. However, we won this game despite our offense, not in any way because of a good performance by the offense.

Jaguars: Up to our game had lost 20 straight and I believe given up 20+ in all of those games, were one if the worst defenses in the league. 20 points, poor showing by everyone.

Atlanta: We only really scored well once we were behind and it was too late after multiple mistakes by Tua and others. Again one of the worst defenses in the league. His stat line ended up nice but doesn't reflect the flow if the game.

Baltimore: No idea what he would have done over 4 quarters. He played well when called upon, still almost fumbled the game away and the defense quite honestly won this game.

So ill ask, minus Baltimore because whatever position we were in had nothing to do with him really, which games did he, not the defense but Tua, put us in position to win or win?
 
He has also put us in a position to lose alot of those games…

I agree with the article, this is his time to show he can continue to develop and show some consistency.
I wouldn't say he put us in a position to lose a lot of those games, and I'm far from a Tua apologist.

From my objective view (is there really such a thing), I would say he failed to overcome adversity at times, but the majority of our losses were as much, or more defensive failures, and playcalling as being directly Tua's fault.
 
How many games where we ahead and the defense gave up a last scoring drive for us to lose the game? Of course it's always Tuas fault not the horrible defense. They are a good group but before the Houston game they were horrible.

I dont know the answer but I know that it is more than 2 times.

With only 2 of those back, if the defense could have pulled off just 1 stop at the end of 2 games we would be 5-5right now.

I know that if the offense would have scored more it would be the same thing but it is a team game. The offensive had us in a position to win if only the defense could make a stop.
 
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Yep, its all up to Tua to prove hes the guy, with a fractured finger on his throwing hand, zero o-line, no running game and dog sht coaching. Gl tua
And who knows what defense will show up. Maybe it will be the dominant one or the one who gives up the last drive score for us to lose the game.
 
Fitz could overcome the Oline issues due to size and ability to throw the guys open.
Tua does not have the size and injury issues he is learning the throw open portion. If Tua can stay healthy he is good enough imo it's really staying healthy enough that's the issue.
 
Yep, its all up to Tua to prove hes the guy, with a fractured finger on his throwing hand, zero o-line, no running game and dog sht coaching. Gl tua
That's why it's such a stupid prespective in my opinion based on how the thread is titled.
 
Fitz could overcome the Oline issues due to size and ability to throw the guys open.
Tua does not have the size and injury issues he is learning the throw open portion. If Tua can stay healthy he is good enough imo it's really staying healthy enough that's the issue.

Soo...Fitz has how many more years in the league doesn't factor into it?
 
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New England: Was the opener so I don't hold any rust against players. However, we won this game despite our offense, not in any way because of a good performance by the offense.

Jaguars: Up to our game had lost 20 straight and I believe given up 20+ in all of those games, were one if the worst defenses in the league. 20 points, poor showing by everyone.

Atlanta: We only really scored well once we were behind and it was too late after multiple mistakes by Tua and others. Again one of the worst defenses in the league. His stat line ended up nice but doesn't reflect the flow if the game.

Baltimore: No idea what he would have done over 4 quarters. He played well when called upon, still almost fumbled the game away and the defense quite honestly won this game.

So ill ask, minus Baltimore because whatever position we were in had nothing to do with him really, which games did he, not the defense but Tua, put us in position to win or win?

Considering he only played in 4 full games...

1. He helped score 17 points (Including being responsible for 14 of those 17 points) on a Patriots defense that rarely makes mistakes, and are always in position to make young QB pay.

2. Against the Falcons, Tua (He threw for 4 TDs) found Gaskin for the lead in the 4th, but the Defense could not hold the Falcons from moving in for the winning FG.

3. Against the Bills, our O-line, against the Bills front 7 was suicide, Tua's only real bad game.

4. The Ravens game where for the 2nd time in 4 games, Tua score a 4th Quarter TD, to put a nail on that game.


If you tell me that the two injuries are a bit concerning, OK, I will grant you that, but in 3 of 4 games, with trash blocking for him, with for the most part never a full roster of top receivers, with little to no real running game, with two OC learning as they go along....Tua has made a huge difference.

Oh and not for anything, but if Tua had played in the Raiders, Colts, Jaguars games, Miami is now 6-4 right now.
 
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