Would Willis and Pitts move the needle on offense?

[Scotty_P]

I'm not completely sold on Willis, but you gotta take shots. Change of scenery can do wonders, only thing is we don't know our scene, just yet...

Not saying blow off Ewers, but if Willis can be brought in without mortaging the future...I'd like to see that competition.

Z. Wilson doesn't exactly bring that competitive edge to the QB room!

Oh I agree. Wilson is a goner. Im curious to see Cam Miller too. Willis already had a change of scenery though, so not sure what another one is going to do for him.

 

[Scotty_P]

Willis shined in GB. He can only work witht he snaps he was given, but he basically led the league in every efficiency and accuracy metric over 2024-2025. What more would he have had to do to shine in your eyes?

He played like a game and half this season, so Im not sold. Reminds me of Matt Flynn. If our GM brings him in, then Ill put faith in him, as he has had an up close look.

I like what I saw from Ewers enough to let him start though. I'm also interested in seeing what Cam Miller can do too.

 

[Fineas]

He played like a game and half this season, so Im not sold. Reminds me of Matt Flynn. If our GM brings him in, then Ill put faith in him, as he has had an up close look.

I like what I saw from Ewers enough to let him start though. I'm also interested in seeing what Cam Miller can do too.

A game and a half this season and 2+ last season. He was excellent in all of his appearances with a 120+ rating in each start.

If he reminds you of Matt Flynn I can only assume you haven't watched him. His game and skills bear no resemblance to Flynn.

Ewers played less over the last two years and substantially worse. No comparison, really. Miller hasn't played at all.

 

[Scotty_P]

A game and a half this season and 2+ last season. He was excellent in all of his appearances with a 120+ rating in each start.

If he reminds you of Matt Flynn I can only assume you haven't watched him. His game and skills bear no resemblance to Flynn.

Ewers played less over the last two years and substantially worse. No comparison, really. Miller hasn't played at all.

Ok dude. He doesnt remind me of Matt Flynn as a player, just the whole situation does.

Another great convo with you though. Always just pushing your opinion and trying to make fellow posters feel stupid. I get it, your life outside of social media is lacking. Try to have a good day and maybe make a small effort to be respectful to fellow fans. I see you trying this b.s. with everyone on here.

 

[zechs]

Ok dude. He doesnt remind me of Matt Flynn as a player, just the whole situation does.

Another great convo with you though. Always just pushing your opinion and trying to make fellow posters feel stupid. I get it, your life outside of social media is lacking. Try to have a good day and maybe make a small effort to be respectful to fellow fans. I see you trying this b.s. with everyone on here.

my fav part is.. there tryin to argue it sayin well it was 1.5 games this year but like 2 last year... okay... so your basing this view point on a whopping THREE AND A HALF GAMES...IN 2 YEARS!!, cause yes, thats clear enough of a sample size to see he is the next patrik mahomes.. sign him up riggght ****in now..

like wtf. if they think 3.5 games(which for the record will usual inflat or deflat stats due to again the lack of sample size) is enough for them to label them as a good bet, im damn glad there nowhere the front office... they would make grier look like the greatest gm of all time

 

[Fineas]

Ok dude. He doesnt remind me of Matt Flynn as a player, just the whole situation does.

Another great convo with you though. Always just pushing your opinion and trying to make fellow posters feel stupid. I get it, your life outside of social media is lacking. Try to have a good day and maybe make a small effort to be respectful to fellow fans. I see you trying this b.s. with everyone on here.

No reason to be a dick or make it personal. I didn’t insult you or make it personal with you.

 

[Fineas]

my fav part is.. there tryin to argue it sayin well it was 1.5 games this year but like 2 last year... okay... so your basing this view point on a whopping THREE AND A HALF GAMES...IN 2 YEARS!!, cause yes, thats clear enough of a sample size to see he is the next patrik mahomes.. sign him up riggght ****in now..

like wtf. if they think 3.5 games(which for the record will usual inflat or deflat stats due to again the lack of sample size) is enough for them to label them as a good bet, im damn glad there nowhere the front office... they would make grier look like the greatest gm of all time

It’s 3.5 more games of NFL performance than any draftee. Does that mean teams shouldn’t invest in draftees because they have an NFL sample size of zero? Who is the QB who is more proven against NFL competition than Willis that you want to see the Dolphins get?

 

[Some Dude]

I mean.. flacco winning it already proved that, eli manning winning it already proved it.. dan marino not winning it already proved it.

yet stillll people wanna live in this dillusion... hell jalen hurts winning it defo proved it, that was a team that won based on trenches defence and barkley, brown and smith and goedart didnt hurt ofc, but there numbers in the season werent great, the passing game all year was poor.. and even in the bowl , thou he got mvp (but its always qb, when there not the mvp) he wasnt the main reason eagles won, it was the defense destroying mahomes without even blitzing, and the oline not giving up any pressure.. thats why they destroyed the chiefs

and also if it was soley bout qb.. wouldnt the bills and ravens won it by now?..

like a qb is a difference maker sure, but ONLY when you have a basic lvl of team/roster construction.. the teams that always do well know this and follow the formula, the bad teams don't and seem to believe in this notion that qb skill = instant win, so live in this dillusssion that they dont do well cause they havent hit on the qb.. and sadly alot of people in the fan bases of these teams share this idiotic Ideal.

Solid post, and the Eli example really stands out because, on the other side, Tom friggin Brady was incredibly pedestrian when his O-line was facing the stellar D-lines of the Giants in both of those superbowls.

I think the success of Patrick Mahomes has skewed people's expectations...

 

[zechs]

Solid post, and the Eli example really stands out because, on the other side, Tom friggin Brady was incredibly pedestrian when his O-line was facing the stellar D-lines of the Giants in both of those superbowls.

I think the success of Patrick Mahomes has skewed people's expectations...

I have said it many times.. and will continue to say it.

Olines make or break offenses, and defenses win championships. the texans offense was awful all year, and they got to 1 game away from the afc championship, and ultimately lost cause of the one thing the defense couldnt beat,.. there own offense, all cj stroud needed to do was not suck, as he had done most of the year, and let the defense win, and he failed.. pats didnt win cj stroud lost.

and qb can win a superbowl, yes any.. as long as they don't put up cj stroud lvls of perfromance or herbert for that matter in the playoffs, and have a good defense and workable oline.. even tua(well until it seems his injurys caught up to him)

its simple you play to the strengths of the qb/ roster you have.. but you need a defense that can stop them/ slow them down and an oline that allows time to let plays unfold, be able to have a decent run game to keep there defense honest.. only in situations where both rosters are mirrored does the difference in playmakers really shine, but thats never gonna happen.

don't get me wrong im not sayin having top tier qbs and wrs doesnt help ofc it does, but there a moot point if your trenches suck.. 2023 for us worked cause of shock and awe, at first people hadnt seen it before, so it circumvented the glaring issues we had.. no ****in oline, we had our starting oline for 1 game.. and we put up 70 on a broncos team, whos defense didnt look that bad for the rest of the year.

like even patrik mahomes has had top tier olines for most ofhis time, and in games he hasn't look at his stats.. not good, hell again look at his perfomance vs the eagles in the bowl when his oline was destroyed..

but people listen to media and other dumb takes and live in a world where... IF We HaD MaHoMes We wOuLd Be A ToP TiEr TeAm......... NOO NO WE WOULDNTCAUSE THIS ROSTER HAS BEEN BUILT LIKE ASS FOR 20 YEARS..

and yeh as you pointed out to go more indepth, both elis sb wins were agains tom brady, brady a shoe in for hall of fame, eli who prob only gets in cause of his name not on his overall career.. s if it was as simple as qb wins all, brady doesn't lose to eli.. let alone ****in twice

 

[zechs]

It’s 3.5 more games of NFL performance than any draftee. Does that mean teams shouldn’t invest in draftees because they have an NFL sample size of zero? Who is the QB who is more proven against NFL competition than Willis that you want to see the Dolphins get?

but your missing the ****in obvious. the draftess cost you a draft pick.. thats it, willis does not, so okay sure you lose a draft pick.. it didnt work you try again, with willis your now stuck with prob a 3 year plus contract..

so your whole point is well, stupid.

playin ewers who costs us nothingggg has far more upside then paying 60 plus million for a qb who your basing his ablity on 3.5 games.. how you can say this outloud/ type this and not see the stupidity in it as you type it is crazy

and i dont want to see them get any qb right now.. i wanna see em fix everything else first, prioritys.. and try hit on one in the draft.. like why does qb need to be fixed NOW.. it doesn't, even if you get a great qb the teams still gonna suck ass, its not gonna magically make us a sb contender.. so argueing to pay for something thats not gonna change much is ridiculas

 

[MrClean]

Can we stop with the Willis speculation. He's a back up for a reason. He had and opportunity to shine and didn't.

Just let Ewers play with an off season to work with the 1's.

The reason is Jordan Love is also a fine player who is signed to a big contract.

 

[MrClean]

Ok dude. He doesnt remind me of Matt Flynn as a player, just the whole situation does.

Another great convo with you though. Always just pushing your opinion and trying to make fellow posters feel stupid. I get it, your life outside of social media is lacking. Try to have a good day and maybe make a small effort to be respectful to fellow fans. I see you trying this b.s. with everyone on here.

His post that you replied to isn't disrespectful that I can tell.

 

[MrClean]

my fav part is.. there tryin to argue it sayin well it was 1.5 games this year but like 2 last year... okay... so your basing this view point on a whopping THREE AND A HALF GAMES...IN 2 YEARS!!, cause yes, thats clear enough of a sample size to see he is the next patrik mahomes.. sign him up riggght ****in now..

like wtf. if they think 3.5 games(which for the record will usual inflat or deflat stats due to again the lack of sample size) is enough for them to label them as a good bet, im damn glad there nowhere the front office... they would make grier look like the greatest gm of all time

What is the minimum number of games or snaps you would want a UFA QB to have before you would try to sign him?

 

[Mach2]

What is the minimum number of games or snaps you would want a UFA QB to have before you would try to sign him?

Depends on price, doesn't it?

 

[Fineas]

but your missing the ****in obvious. the draftess cost you a draft pick.. thats it, willis does not, so okay sure you lose a draft pick.. it didnt work you try again, with willis your now stuck with prob a 3 year plus contract..

so your whole point is well, stupid.

playin ewers who costs us nothingggg has far more upside then paying 60 plus million for a qb who your basing his ablity on 3.5 games.. how you can say this outloud/ type this and not see the stupidity in it as you type it is crazy

and i dont want to see them get any qb right now.. i wanna see em fix everything else first, prioritys.. and try hit on one in the draft.. like why does qb need to be fixed NOW.. it doesn't, even if you get a great qb the teams still gonna suck ass, its not gonna magically make us a sb contender.. so argueing to pay for something thats not gonna change much is ridiculas

The draftees don’t just cost a draft pick. They get paid too. A top 5 pick Qb that people seem to be angling for will cost as much or more against the cap in year 1 than Willis probably will with a well-structured contract. And the well structured contract would give an out after two years so it wouldn’t be stuck with a 3 yr plus contract.

The notion that Ewers has more upside than Willis is just stupid. Not even close. And he has played less in the NFL and played substantially worse.

The idea of fixing everything else first is senseless. Franchise QBs are rare. You get them whenever you can. This franchise has been waiting 26 years for one. Some franchises have never had one. If you want to find one in the draft you likely have to really suck, ie., the rest of the team isn’t well built at all. If everything else is well built but you don’t have the QB you will be drafting in the middle of the draft and missing out on all the top QBs. Some drafts dont even have any QBs worth taking.