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Hartselle Tigers (15-0) 5-A State Champ
So you approve of Rosen Slimm?
Well, I do like Rosen, Vaark. Although I wouldn't trade my 1st round pick for him if I were Miami - and not because I don't think he's worth the 13th pick in this draft. It's because either the Cardinals believe he's the guy or they don't. If they do, it doesn't matter what you offer - they ain't taking it.
If they don't - then Miami has other avenues to pursue in a trade without giving up that #13 pick. Furthermore, if they don't believe he's the guy based only on his rookie season where he was surrounded by nothing, and after they traded up to secure him, then what does that say about the Cardinals and their evaluations?
I had a high grade on Rosen "on the field". My trepidation with Rosen was more personality based - which is a big time factor for quarterbacks. He reminded me a lot of Matt Ryan as a prospect. Very smooth, accurate passer with great footwork and pocket movement. But didn't have that competitive fire of Matt Ryan. I didn't grade Rosen as a franchise quarterback the way I did Darnold and Josh Allen....I don't have that strong of a conviction on many quarterbacks.
Eli Manning, Jay Cutler, Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck. Those are the only 4 quarterbacks I had that strong of a conviction on in the past 15 years or so. I felt that conviction with Darnold and Josh Allen also.
If people don't think Rosen is any good based only on looking at stats from his rookie season, that's one thing. However, I think it'd be hard to convince a lot of evaluators of that based on his rookie tape. It tells a different story.