- Aug 30, 2004
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- Rocklin, CA
You’re right though BB couldn’t win w these first round pick QBs : Kosar, Testaverde, Bledsoe, Cam Newton, Mac Jones. I have a hard time making sense of this given what Shula did w so many different QBs across 2 different teams. For me it takes some of the shine off BB though yes I know he’s a great coach
What are you defining "winning" as? Because no HC won championships with any of those guys as starting QB's.
Belecheat won 12 games (including 1 playoff game) with Testaverde as his starter in 1994. He ditched Kosar in year 2 in Cleveland, who clearly wasn't much of a QB anymore and became a backup in Miami. Bledsoe only played one season for Bill and Newton was past his prime and a shell of his former self when he played for him.
You're using name recognition against him. All but one of those QB's weren't in their prime or any good any more.
And I'm not sure any HC is winning anything with Mac Jones, but Belecheat did get to a postseason game with that guy so there's at least that.
You name me any head coach that was winning more than Belecheat with those players and those rosters.
I'm as big a Cheatriot hater as there is. I think both Brady and Belecheat should lose shine for their roles in spygate, deflategate and all the other questionable nonsense. That said, I still contend that most HC's don't win in today's NFL without a capable franchise QB. Belecheat is doing as well as any coach would do with average to below average QB's.
Brady won w/o Belecheat because he joined another high level roster. When Belecheat has another high level QB, he'll win again too. Unless he retires before that happens