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Da 'Fins said:
Gus Frerotte, AJ Feeley, Lamar Gordon plus our current 1st round pick and the Bears 3rd round pick.

OR

Gus Frerotte, plus our current 1st, 2nd, 3rd, round picks and the Bears 3rd round pick. With the likelyhood of drafting one of the QB's with the 1st pick - let's just say, for argument's sake, Alex Smith.

I know hindsight is 20/20, but I'd take the latter. There is the opportunity to get a good back into the fold, develop a good, smart young QB with lots of talent, while Frerotte starts this year. Frerotte may STILL start this year with Feeley!

This is why you don't trade away future draft picks. Saban has intimated about this several times - and you know RS has to be cringing every time he brings it up. Bottom-line, RS will either learn from those mistakes and show he's on board with the philosophy - or he'll flounder. Regardless, he may not be back after the draft.

The latter. Key word being hindsight though. Our picks were traded away because we were miserable and needed patching.

If we turn back time a year, I probably would have gone with what we did. Hindsight is the key word here.
 
Da 'Fins said:
Fortunately, Saban disagrees with you. Glad you Wanny/Rick guys are out of the picture.

Biggest outcry? Nonsense. The day the trade was made I thought, "what is he doing giving up a 2nd round pick?" So too did a lot of folks.

And, I know the Jags backup. Regardless of what they are asking for him, it has zero to do with the Feeley trade or the giving up of future picks. If they are asking that for him it's b/c they either want another Feeley rip off like the Eagles had or they like the guy.

The ultimate point of the post is to discuss draft philosophy. The # 1 point being: Don't give up future picks for unproven backup talent. You might get lucky, but put your stock in your own drafting first. That's Saban's position, and his public statements have subtly been sending that message out.

So let me get this straight, you are upset because the Dolphins gave up a 2nd round pick for an unproven QB with potential, but would be happy and content to give up 1st round (#2 overall) for an unproven (in the NFL) QB with potential. yeah, that makes sense :shakeno:
 
arsenal said:
wanny guy? i hate wanny, haha... your telling me if we went into last year with still fiedler and no one else dolphin fans woulda been ok with it? aha i dont think so...

i dont know if you think you can trade for QBs with 8th round picks and ****, but it does'nt work that way in the NFL, thast what i was saying with the jaguar guy, i'll say it one more time... QBS are expensive and overpaid... why do you think they always go high in the draft? gotta overpay to get a QB... rodgers and smith aren't the best players in the draft but they'll prob go 1 and 3 just cause they are QBs...

we wanted to get a guy and gave up what we had to to get him... deal with it instead of crying about it...

Which is why it would have been the smartest thing to do is sign one of the FA vets that were out there. It is pointless to talk about it because there is nothing we can do about it, I think he was just trying to make the point that Wanny and Rick screwed us over for his year.

Wanny would have been gone no matter what after last year. Wayne wanted Saban here, and that was Wanny's final chance to do something with the team. The eagles pulled one over on our new GM, that is all that happend. Hopefully AJ turns out to be really good and we can throw it in thier face. If not we got screwed out of one pick for 1 year. Its over now make the best of what we have.
 
To add, what would you have done if you weree GM for a day? Who would you have gone after and at what price? Or would you have been happy with Feidler?
 
arsenal said:
wanny guy? i hate wanny, haha... your telling me if we went into last year with still fiedler and no one else dolphin fans woulda been ok with it? aha i dont think so...

i dont know if you think you can trade for QBs with 8th round picks and ****, but it does'nt work that way in the NFL, thast what i was saying with the jaguar guy, i'll say it one more time... QBS are expensive and overpaid... why do you think they always go high in the draft? gotta overpay to get a QB... rodgers and smith aren't the best players in the draft but they'll prob go 1 and 3 just cause they are QBs...

we wanted to get a guy and gave up what we had to to get him... deal with it instead of crying about it...


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Personally.. im a firm believer in making a QB hold the clipboard for a few seasons to learn the game. Its a much different beast that the college game. Aj better show he's learned something. Either he shines.. or he'll never get another real shot.
 
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