Discussion in 'College Sports Forum' started by TedSlimmJr, Sep 5, 2010.
Have fun and play rough boys...
i hate to say it but i see you guys repeating for a title. team is so stacked and deep at every position it's borderline not fair. how many off the chart RB's can a team have? and who the hell is this lacy kid?
as of right now i see the tide as having the best back (2 even) in the country - ingram - the best ILB - hightower - the best DE - dareus - and the second best WR - jones. am i missing anything? you fugging kidding me with this?
i was pretty hammered by the time the bama game came on - need to watch it again - but i that was about as impressed as i get. i hope the auburn game wasn't a fluke b/c it's been a long time since i've looked forward to that rivalry game. i wouldn't worry about arkansas - that D isn't good enough. and florida - fugg - you'll kill us with predictable *** addazio calling the shots. auburn is the only one i think has the coaching and talent on either side of the ball. when was the last time auburn had an offense worth a fugg? i can't even remember.
Auburn's offense in 2004 was pretty good with Jason Campbell, Cadillac, Ronnie Brown, Devin Aromashadu, Ben Obamanu, etc., etc,...
What makes Auburn's offense so tough to defend is Gus Malzahn.... he uses so much deception and movement that all 11 guys on defense have their eyes going in 11 different directions... and that's just before the snap...
I thought Mississippi St. looked good yesterday too.. real good... Chad Bumphis and Leon Berry are as talented as any 2 receivers in the conference outside of Julio and A.J. Green.... and with McPhee and K.J. Wright on defense, they are a formidable opponent now that Mullen is getting his offense installed...
Eddie Lacy is a kid that the Bama faithful have known about... he was recruited out of Louisiana and redshirted last year... Namor and I have talked about him quite a bit... he'd be starting in most places... and that's not even taking into account Goode at tailback who's almost of the same caliber..
Alabama showed VERY little on offense yesterday for opponents... that's as vanilla as it gets and never even got the TE Michael Williams involved in the passing game... the backups were playing by the 2nd quarter... A.J. McCarron is going to be lights out when GMac moves on...
Hell, Bama's kicker Cade Foster is more physical than a lot of teams linebackers.... and that's not a joke... this kid was a linebacker in high school and is one of the strongest weight room guys around... He's like Bosher from Miami... he'll run down and lay the wood on ball carriers in the kick return game...
Bottom line is, this is just a really good, talented, and deep football team that's extremely well coached in all 3 phases.... and that's hard to beat. They're talented enough to overcome mistakes... but good enough that they just don't make many to begin with.
Next up..Penn State
Look, I know there is hard feelings toward Saban from the Dolphin crowd,but he just realized he wasn't happy as a pro coach.
The man LOVES to recruit...He is made for the college game..almost "Bear" like.
The scary thing is,if Saban hadn't left LSU...can you imagine the dynasty they would have.
Bama is set up talent wise for several years at the top.
he screwed us. i'm over it.
he's a much, much better college than pro coach. his heart was never in it - wouldn't have worked. recruiting is his passion - and there's none better if you ask me.
and slimm - that safety we were talking about that plays with my little brother and declared for bama - now #10 on rivals.com. fugg.
I agree to a point...
What kills me on these boards,is that, to me ,Jimmy Johnson screwed and quit on the Dolphins alot more than
what Nick did,but he gets a pass because of all the Canes fans here.
hell, all of them except shula screwed us if ask me b/c none of those fuggs brought a championship to miami.
i'm no canes fan - jimmy's way up there on the list. the only thing worse than not winning a title is forcing marino into retirement (if i remember correctly). i can get on board with that.
How the hell did Bama lose 7 first place votes?
We beat our opponent 48-3,granted they were a cupcake,
(a regular on Boise State's schedule).What was we supposed to do?
Run up the score to 60 or 70?Is that the message they want to send?
Boise State gets 1st place votes for bearly beating a undisciplined,badly
coached,middle of the pack ACC school?
VT isn't that good,the Canes and others will steam roll them.
This lovefest circlejerk the media is having with Boise is freaking ridiculous.
Bama loses this weekend.
WE ARE.......PENN STATE!
Nubs...much respect to you and JoePa...but are you really feeling that?
Bama starts sending in scrubs after the 3rd.
and thats without Ingram and Marcell.
It's ridiculous Namor... it's hard to win "impressive enough" without legitimizing running up the score...
What they're not factoring in is (and they would if they had a lick of ****ing sense) is that Bama has been beating teams into the ground the last 2 years with backups... literally... When Bama is up 4 TD's midway through the 2nd quarter against teams like North Texas, San Jose St., Chattanooga, etc.. Saban is pulling starters and letting backups and 3rd stringers play...
What do they do? They continue to beat the hell of the other teams starters...
VT took Boise's best shot and still almost beat 'em... They spotted Boise 3 scores and then it looked like Boise didn't even belong on the same field for the next 2 quarters... VT played as lousy as they possibly could for the first few minutes of that game... It was reminiscent of the first few minutes of the Texas/Bama title game last year... except Bama weathered the storm and held them to 6 points...
All VT had to do was run out the clock with about 4 minutes left... suspect play calling and lack of execution by Tyrod Taylor on one series force them to give the ball back to Boise...
Does the media REALLY think that Bama wouldn't have run the clock out with Ingram, Trent Richardson, Eddie Lacy, Demetrius Goode, or any other stud running back they can trot out there? REALLY?
If it was Bama the smurfs were playing last night, it wouldn't have been that close to begin with...
Kellen Moore would be fortunate to even still be in the game after facing Bama's defense for 45 minutes...
Exactly...I don't begrudge Boise their 3rd place ranking...but what this says is some people saw enough to
say Boise St is a better team than Bama.
There needs to be more drug testing in the workplace.
Not buying the "Saban screwed us" angle. If anything he did us a favor.
I'll defend Nick Saban to the death. I'm not a big Alabama fan but I'll roll with the Tide so long as he's there much like I did with LSU when he was there.
Alabama - 11.5 is a MUST play this weekend I think. JCane loaded up this past weekend. 4 for 4 on BIG plays. I took Utah straight up over Pittsburgh. LSU - 4.5 that I got VERY early well before the suspensions. Michigan over UCONN against the spread. And I took Boise State outright last night.
Penn State with a Freshman QB coming into Bryant-Denny against a Saban led defense is TROUBLE. They will be after that kid all night long. JoePa is out of his league against Nick Saban I think. Love JoePa and have a lot of respect for the man but I question how much he's really doing for the program these days.
As far as Alabama playing for a national title again, I just don't see it. That schedule is BRUTAL. Six games I believe where Alabama is playing a team coming off a bye. That is disaster waiting to happen. Fresh teams with two weeks to prepare for Alabama and you're bound to drop a game or two. If it weren't for the schedule I could see Alabama repeating because they're returning a lot and they're very talented at every skill position out there.
I don't know Namor... I'd settle for just letting them overdose...
Hey Ted. Have you seen that Australian kid,JUCO #1 Jesse Williams...6'4 340 and can move?
Our newest commit.
PLEASE BEAT OHIO STATE....I'm really pulling for you guys.
P.S. Beat the hell out of VT also, for looking so crappy last night and causing all this ruckus.
Exactly... this is all VT's fault to begin with....
What's going to make it worse is when VT goes on to spank everyone in the ACC like they usually do and end up ACC Champions with their only loss coming to Boise... it's only going to add more fuel to this runaway joke of a freight train that has become the Smurf Hype Machine...
Yes I have... I was listening to Cecil Hurt and some other guys talking about him last week in fact...
Tough for me to feel confident about beating Ohio State. I posted some stuff in the Boise State - Virginia Tech predictions thread and some stuff in the 'Canes Official thread about our matchup problems and what's going on in practice.
Last night's game is irrelevant in my opinion. I don't care if Boise State runs the table. There's no way they get in over a 1 loss SEC or Big 10 school. I feel like either Nebraska, Texas or Oklahoma HAS to go undefeated. If Alabama manages to only drop one game or Ohio State drops only one, those two will get the benefit of the doubt over an undefeated Boise team. The only thing that bothers me about last night's game is that IF we beat Ohio State on Saturday then Virginia Tech's loss hurts our strength of schedule. Same for North Carolina.
One positive about this weekend, the Hurricanes typically play VERY well early in the season. Everyone is healthy so it's not out of the realm of possibility that we do this. But even still, I fear Shannon will blow a couple later in the season against some scrub *** team like Clemson. That's his MO. My flight leaves for Cleveland Friday morning. Stopping by the NFL Hall of Fame Friday afternoon before making the drive out to Columbus. Can't wait to post some pics of Marino, etc.
Different week, may be the same 48-3 score. A true freshman QB on the road vs. a saban defense?? Not even fair for the kid.
Wrong forum... You see... they'll be playing football in Tuscaloosa on Saturday..
Been fun guys..check you out later...Sons Of Anarchy is about to come on.
My favorite show..3rd season premiere.
I've been saying this for months now (and getting chastised for it by the rest of the Gator Faithful all along the way) but I am fully prepared for MSU to come in to BHG and kick our *** this year. It is the classic "Gator Trap" game that we've found a way to blow for nearly every last one of the past 13 seasons. And they do look good. It's always a team from the SEC West. It's always an underdog. Whether it's at home or on the road doesn't matter and they've done it do us before.
The last time we ever played on a Thursday night, they beat the **** out of us in Starkville in '92. I called it in 2000, and they delivered with vengeance (only to have us answer them with a 52-0 beating the next season). In 2004, they drove the final nail in Ron Zook's UF coffin, and I didn't even watch. Never did.
I remember all of them well... especially the 2000 game.. That was when Spurrier's teams could always score, but couldn't stop a thimble from rolling uphill defensively... I believe Florida was #2 or 3 in the country and State was unranked... but I really liked the Dicenzo Miller kid as prospect at running back... he lit the Crocs up that day...
Florida seems to have trouble with Miss. St. especially in Starkville...
If they beat Auburn this weekend... that's going to put everyone in the SEC on notice...
See..it's games like this, a Boise State doesn't have to worry about...rough,hard physical rivalry games,
then turn around get ready for another one 6 days later....it's brutal at times.
At anytime a Ole Miss,Miss State, or a S.Carolina can pop up and bite you in the ***.
South Carolina could go 10-2 or better with Boise State's schedule.
I still remember Spurrier's damn voluntary safety that he had Grossman take in 2000 on 3rd and 57 after two bad snaps that put us down by 10 points because he simply didn't trust his defense.
It isn't just MSU, it's the entire SEC West. 1998 was the last season that did not feature a UF loss to a team from the West. That 12-year span includes losses to every team from the West except for poor Arkansas who still hasn't beaten us since they joined the conference. And we didn't even win the SEC in '98. That was a shame too, because that team was good. I was at the Orange Bowl that night. We kicked the crap outta McNabb and Syracuse. Lost close/controversial games to the two teams who played for the title that year (UT-FSU).
Papa Joe praising the Tide...
Paterno is such a class act... He's the last of his kind that guys like myself and Namor grew up on... back when coaching was a gentlemen's game.
I guarantee you he's sending a different message to his team behind closed doors... he knows how to coach his boys up while buttering up the opponent (one of Bear's old tricks)..
I'll be there in BDS for this one boys.... I wouldn't miss it for anything..
BTW... that -10 line has moved to -12... wouldn't be surprised to see it reach 2 TD's by kickoff Saturday...
I'm pretty surprised to see it continuing to creep up after it was announced that Ingram won't play.
The backup ain't too shabby.... ask the Longhorns...
His backup ain't too shabby either...
I'm well aware of Trent Richardson lol. But injuries sway lines in Vegas more than anything. Reigning Heisman winner out against a top 25 team...you'd think it would sway the lines in favor of Penn State.
I guess they don't see much of a dropoff.... it's basically as if Ingram is playing... Probably has more to do with the freshman going on the road to an SEC venue like BDS in front of over 100,000 rabid idiots and playing against Saban's defense...
Which is why I was all over 11.5 in the first place lol.
What I find interesting is that he said it's probably the best team he's played since the Canes in '86....
Paterno beat those Canes for the title... I'm telling you this old buzzard is still slick...
I hope sat.,all of our fans are classy and gives Joe Pa a standing ovation when he comes out.
.....then we beat the hell out of Penn State...Rammer Jammer.
Here's a little article on the Jesse Williams kid... http://www.tidesports.com/article/2...Title=ANDREW-BONE-Alabama-lands-elite-lineman
This is the all muscle, incredibly athletic version of Terrance Cody with a terrifying mean streak....
Is Bama's DT being out on Saturday going to hurt the team much?
dareus is a DE. and no it isn't. not against penn st. at least - not even close to on bama's level. not many are.
Anytime you don't have a player of Marcel Dareus' caliber out there playing it hurts you.... Most people don't realize quite how dominant he is on a snap-to-snap basis.... Most people only know of him because of the absolute freak show he put on against the Longhorns in the title game.. winning MVP... but he was dominating opponents all season...
But to Bob's point, Saban has already built a team that is so deep and talented, they can beat teams to a pulp without their best players on the field.... Guys like Luther Davis, Kerry Murphy, Damion Square, Undra Billingsley, Josh Chapman, etc. on the defensive line are so talented, yet understand the system, so it allows them to play to their potential... they all play smart, fast, and physical...
The key battle up front is going to be Wisniewski vs. Chapman... should be an epic battle and a very interesting one to break down on film...