Bonedoc7777
Perennial All-Pro
football is fixed, it has to be for that team to win with no offense at all
Some defensive issues? # 1 in plays over 40 yards given up? That is pretty glaring. Also, take a look at the Saints, Colts and Vikings and how their defense performed. They overwhelmed their opponent.
Guys like Brees, Manning and Favre are far and few between. He have a QB that is a game manager. He will never be elite like these guys but he will be good. We need a strong defense and solid running game to go with a proficient passing game and we can win.
90% of America thought the Chargers would win. Wasn't even close. The Jets defense had the Chargers frustrated and out of sync all day. I would not be surprised if they beat the Colts next week.
a 3 pt game wasn't even close when a kicker left 9 pts off the board.
wasn't even close is a sarcastic comment.... right?
I'lll take the colts next week, whats the wager?
I never said I would bet on them. I said I wouldn't be surprised if they won.so whats the wager than.
You are correct, stop the run, play tough defense and run the football and you will have a chance to win the super bowl. That is why I think our offense only needs a stud TE and a veteran WR. We need players at the LBer position and we need to get younger at the OLBer position. The post a few weeks ago failed to mention the winner of the last 10 super bowls. Looking at that list should have been enough to end the debate, but some folks get fooled by a high scoring offense duriing the regular season and think thats the way to go. Lets take a look at the super bowl champions since 2000, starting from last yr and working our way down.There was a thread a couple of weeks ago that debated the importance of a passing offense as a necessity and that defense is not a dominant factor in winning. Well.........the #1 defense just took down the #2 offense. In fact all 4 games this weekend there was outstanding defense played by each winning team.
Not only do the Jets go to the AFC Championship with the #1 defense, the have the #1 running game and #31 passing game.
This hire that the Dolphins make for the DC is critical and the FA and draft has got to focus on building a defense.
You are correct, stop the run, play tough defense and run the football and you will have a chance to win the super bowl. That is why I think our offense only needs a stud TE and a veteran WR. We need players at the LBer position and we need to get younger at the OLBer position. The post a few weeks ago failed to mention the winner of the last 10 super bowls. Looking at that list should have been enough to end the debate, but some folks get fooled by a high scoring offense duriing the regular season and think thats the way to go. Lets take a look at the super bowl champions since 2000, starting from last yr and working our way down.
Pitt-Defense, run the ball
NYG-Defense that stop the highest scoring team in league history...footnote PATS havent won a superbowl after they abandoned the run and went with the high powered scoring offense.
Indy-only reason they won that yr was Defense, Dungy finally got a D that was able to get Manning his ring
Pitt-see above formula still working from previous yrs,this time by a rookie QB
Pats-Defense, Belicheat, running the football
Pats-Defense,Belicheat running the football after they signed the Bengals reget(cant think of his name)
Tampa Bay-Defense
Pats-defense, stopped the greatest show on turf
Ravens-Defense and trent dilfer was QB enough said.....
Rams-Greatest show on turf with a good defense
The Rams are the only team in ten yrs that you can actually say had a high powered offense and tried...did....outscore its competition.
If the colts D comes to play like it did against Balt they should get to the Super Bowl if they take this Jet team lightly look out. that d is feirce and they can run the football on anyone.
Give me a great D with a great running game any day of the week and I will be patient while we build that here.
I guess you dont remember those Pats teams that did it with Defense, they have not won a super bowl since. Belicheat became a genius because of those Super Bowls and it wasnt because they scored 30 pts. How about Tampa Bay? These teams core is Defense, I'm not saying the offense is not going to score pts, Im saying the D is more important and with us avg 22 pts a game this yr is enough to get the job done if we had a top 5 D.2006 and 2001 are the only two superbowls I remember the winner winning because of a dominant defense.
steelers and ravens both gave up ten points repsectively.
There was a thread a couple of weeks ago that debated the importance of a passing offense as a necessity and that defense is not a dominant factor in winning. Well.........the #1 defense just took down the #2 offense. In fact all 4 games this weekend there was outstanding defense played by each winning team.
Not only do the Jets go to the AFC Championship with the #1 defense, the have the #1 running game and #31 passing game.
This hire that the Dolphins make for the DC is critical and the FA and draft has got to focus on building a defense.
I guess you dont remember those Pats teams that did it with Defense, they have not won a super bowl since. Belicheat became a genius because of those Super Bowls and it wasnt because they scored 30 pts. How about Tampa Bay? These teams core is Defense, I'm not saying the offense is not going to score pts, Im saying the D is more important and with us avg 22 pts a game this yr is enough to get the job done if we had a top 5 D.
You are correct, stop the run, play tough defense and run the football and you will have a chance to win the super bowl. That is why I think our offense only needs a stud TE and a veteran WR. We need players at the LBer position and we need to get younger at the OLBer position. The post a few weeks ago failed to mention the winner of the last 10 super bowls. Looking at that list should have been enough to end the debate, but some folks get fooled by a high scoring offense duriing the regular season and think thats the way to go. Lets take a look at the super bowl champions since 2000, starting from last yr and working our way down.
Pitt-Defense, run the ball
NYG-Defense that stop the highest scoring team in league history...footnote PATS havent won a superbowl after they abandoned the run and went with the high powered scoring offense.
Indy-only reason they won that yr was Defense, Dungy finally got a D that was able to get Manning his ring
Pitt-see above formula still working from previous yrs,this time by a rookie QB
Pats-Defense, Belicheat, running the football
Pats-Defense,Belicheat running the football after they signed the Bengals rb (cant think of his name)
Tampa Bay-Defense
Pats-defense, stopped the greatest show on turf
Ravens-Defense and trent dilfer was QB enough said.....
Rams-Greatest show on turf with a good defense
The Rams are the only team in ten yrs that you can actually say had a high powered offense and tried...did....outscore its competition.
If the colts D comes to play like it did against Balt they should get to the Super Bowl if they take this Jet team lightly look out. that d is feirce and they can run the football on anyone.
Give me a great D with a great running game any day of the week and I will be patient while we build that here.
Anyone else notice with Rivers it is either Hero or Zero there is just no happy medium?!?!