Fin_Frenzy_84 (5 round mock draft)

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  1. Fin_Frenzy_84

    Fin_Frenzy_84 Starter

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    Resign-
    Starks
    Smith
    Hartline

    Sign-
    Ryan Clady/Branden Albert/Sebastian VollmerOT
    Jermichael Finley/Jared Cook TE
    Greg Jennings/Mike Wallace/Dwayne Bowe WR

    As long as we let Long walk this offseason we will have a lot of money to spend this free agency!

    Draft- (TWO SCENARIOS)
    1st- Dion Jordan DE/Dee Milliner CB
    2nd-Robert Lester SS/Jackson Jeffcoat DE
    2nd-Desmond Trufant CB/Khaseem Greene OLB
    3rd-Kenny Stills WR/ Bacarri Rambo FS
    3rd-Stepfan Taylor RB/Stedman Bailey WR
    4th-Trevardo Williams OLB/Kenjon Berner RB
    5th-Tyrann Mathieu CB/ Tyrann Mathieu CB


     
  2. 39wildman

    39wildman A True Fan

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    why draft defense dolphins need weapon asap we are not go beat ne with defense that is on field all day or nite. we been draft defense player last 8 yr and still lose.. try something new. get good wr in free agent 1. cb 2.a wr, 2b,.LT, 3A de 3b te 4.RB. 5.DT 6.WR 7.G 7.B FS
     
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    LOL, not enough money to spend on all those players. Clady wants $11 mil per season...that equals what Long wants and Mike Wallace also wants $11 million per season. JerMichael Finely is still under contract and if you think the Packers will let him go without trying to trade him you're nuts. His salary is $8 million and it makes more sense to keep him and not take the cap hit.

    Your dreaming if you think anything remotely like this could happen. The title to this thread should be Fantasy World...lol.
     
  4. SF Dolphin Fan

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    With both options I think you wait to long to draft a wide receiver. That said, I'd love to start the draft with Milliner or Jordan. I also like Trufant in round 2 and Bailey in round 3. Berner is also a player I'd love Miami to draft if they let Bush go. This guy is just so explosive. I don't expect Miami to go after high priced free agents, but a tight end like Cook would be a nice player to have.
     
  5. Fin_Frenzy_84

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    First off we are supposed to have between 45-60 million so yes we would have the money to do all that. Just because Clady and Wallace wants 11 million doesn't mean a team will offer 11 million. Second of all Packers will try and trade Finley but if he is traded it would cost just as much Bush cost us. If the Packers don't trade him then he is cut. Did you not see the reports???? Also I didn't just say Wallace, Clady, and Finley. I also said Bowe, Jennings, Cook, Albert and Vollmer. Fantasy World my ***!
     
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    Is Cook or Finley not a playmaker???
    What about Bowe,Wallace or Jennings????
     
  7. utahphinsfan

    utahphinsfan Puck Fitzburgh

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    How exactly did the Giants beat NE twice for the Lombardi trophy? Think of Dion Jordan as JPP but with more experience in college against better competition.
     
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    Offenses need to be loaded with playmakers now. Our D is more than good enough to get us deep in the playoffs. Our offense on the other hand...

    At least 2 of the first 3 picks need to be offensive playmakers (not line), even with signing those FAs.
     
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    Pinkboy Banned Hammered

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    Not against good playoff caliber offenses it's not. Don't let wins in the last 2 weeks against the crappy jags and bills fool you, and dont let this cupcake schedule playing against tons of crappy QB's this year fool you either. A good playoff offense (which is what you'll get in the playoffs), would run over this defense easily.

    the dolphins haven't beaten a team with a good QB since early 2010.. and its not just because of the lack of offense, the D just isn't good enough when it really counts ... and the dolphins are far FAR away from being a high seed in the playoffs ( if they were to make the playoffs next year for example, it would be a low seed - wildcard). This defense isn't good enough to go on the road against a good offense. Hell they gave up 300+ yards and 3 passing TD's to the crappy Kevin Kolb, gave up 35 minutes of time of possession and gave up 100 more yards than miami's offense in buffalo on that thursday night game... etc etc etc. The defense is just not good enough on the road against a good offense and an amped playoff crowd (atmosphere). They'd get exposed for what we really know about them

    this defense has one pass rusher and a poor secondary. Good enough to smack down the Jaguars and chad henne but not playoff teams with good offenses on the road. Don't act like this is the baltimore or steelers defense of the recent past. The dolphins are not close to that level on defense


    the OP has it right. Besides, this is a much better draft for defensive players. It would be very foolish to go all offense in a defensive draft (and missing out on superior players)
     
  10. So Be

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    While I do agree that we could do what you posted, I believe it would leave us somewhat short for other players to keep or add. My main targets would be Bowe/Jennings and Volmer. Letting go of Long and McD (a combined $16M) would roughly cover both, and we still have plenty to sign our own and/or others.

    As I've posted a number of times, the yearly average of a contract is NOT what it has to cost in the first year. Most are about 20-25% less on the cap in the first year.
     
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    so you want a 34 olb in dion jordan with our top pick i take it...
     
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    Absolutely. Miami needs to get a pass rusher early and then concentrate on building the offense.
     
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    We need a 4-3 defensive end or a wr in the first round maybe corner.

    There are are going to be a handful of wrs in the.2nd we could grab so a de would be my first choice.
     
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    Or you could think of JPP as a player that has dominated at every level he has played, while Jordan only had 5.5 sacks his senior year in college.
     
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    JPP had only 6.5 sacks the one year he play college ball so....

    ---------- Post added at 02:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:47 AM ----------

    I honestly wouldn't mind bring the 3-4 back with a little 4-3 in there. Wont happen but I wouldnt mind seeing it
     
  16. Pinkboy

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    To be fair, Jordan is so gifted physically for his size, they have him in coverage alot covering large areas and covering guys much smaller than him.


    so its not like Jordan's a designated pass rusher with his hand in the dirt on every play like some of the other pass rushers. Far from it from the games I'v'e watched
     
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    you need to watch the games of people before you go throwing around stats. dion jordan is wayyyyyyy more versatile than JPP is for one.(not saying he will be better, but versatility helps) he drops back in coverage a ton and i've also seen him a few times lines up in the slot playing coverage. he does more then just line up and rush the passer.
     
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    In 7 games. That is a pretty good average. Almost one a game, or about twice the rate of Jordan.
     
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    How do you assume I don't? I am not after versitilty, give me somebody who can bring the heat, please. I will be glad to say I'm wrong on this if Dion Jordan has 10 sacks at ANY point in his NFL career. I don't think I'll have to. Dude only got half that number as a Senior in college- and I don't think the PAC is as strong as the NFL, from the games I saw this year. Maybe my eyes are deceiving me.
     
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    Thanks for a reasonable, thought out response. Noted.
     
  21. PhinSoldia

    PhinSoldia Miami Dolphin Columnist in the Making

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    i agree with going after one of the "big three" wr in free agency but the fact of the matter i still want a WR in the second round....with that said Pass rush is ABSOLUTELY the way we should go
     
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    PhinSoldia Miami Dolphin Columnist in the Making

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    at this point we have to think that his price tag is down a little bit after an "off season" same with Bowe and Jennings, you would have to think that 8-9 would be the price tag, if not lets gear up to the draft
     
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    Really!? I guess I did not get the memo that states USF > Oregon.
     
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    PhinSoldia Miami Dolphin Columnist in the Making

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    burn!!!!!!!!
     
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    I never said that. I said JPP has dominated at every level he has played, including the NFL (which he has). If you can only generate 3 sacks against PAC competition (2 of his sacks are against Fresno St and Tenn Tech), you are not going to do it at higher level.

    Did you get the memo that NFL > PAC 12? That one IS an actual quote of mine, feel free to put that on your iPhone and tweet it.
     
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    JPP had
    1 sack against a 7-6 Florida State (4-4 ACC)
    1 sack against 4-8 Syracuse (1-6 Big East)
    2 sacks against 9-4 Rutgers (3-4 Big East)
    .5 sacks against 4-8 Louisville (1-6 Big East)
    1 sack against 9-4 Miami (5-3 ACC)
    1 sack against 7-6 Northern Illinois (5-3 MAC)

    1.5 garbage sacks for JPP

    Dion Jordan had
    1 sack against 9-4 Fresno State (7-1 MWC)
    1 sack against 3-8 Tennessee Tech (1-7 OVC)
    1 sack against 7-5 Washington State (5-4 Pac-12)
    2 sacks against 7-5 Arizona State (5-4 Pac-12)

    1 garbage sack for Dion

    Now i'm not at all saying Dion will be the pass rusher JPP is but I am pretty sure Dion will be able to provide 8-10 sacks a season opposite of wake and also he Dion can drop into coverage if we needed him too. A 6'7 defender that can cover Tight Ends??? That would be a very solid pick IMO
     
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    WR -- DE -- CB

    Those are the top three needs in today's NFL (once you have a QB of course).

    Score touchdowns -- put pressure on the opposing QB -- stop the other teams WR's from scoring the ball.

    We need at least two WR's over the off-season - either two from the draft or one FA and one from the draft. We also need at least two CB's.

    I think we can get it done.

    Go Fins!
     
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    JPP only played 7 games. Jordan played all year. Jordan looks to me like a faster version of Eric Kumerow, although I could be wrong. If we draft him I hope damn well I am wrong, but- I wasn't wrong when I was pissed that they drafted Kumerow.
     
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    I agree, but we can't miss at the rate we have been. If we hit on 3 of the top 5, that would be a success in my book, and better than we have been doing.
     

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