Fox's Mike Garafolo: Incognito sent "racially charged" texts and voicemails

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  1. TheWalrus

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  2. Phinatic8u

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    LOL @ Incognitos tweets earlier today.
     
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    Welp.

    Looks like two of our starting lineman just had their careers ended in the span of a week and another might be in jail next year. Wonderful.

    Goodnight, sweet Tannehill.
     
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    Was just thinking of linking that thread. :lol:
     
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    Idrd1994 has gone awfully quiet now.
     
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    McKinnie - Watkins - Garner - Jerry - Clabo

    :lol:


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  7. Phinatic8u

    Phinatic8u Adam ****ing Gase

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    Wow. That really escalated quickly.
     
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    So obvious where this is heading. Martin is gay. Incog found out and ........... not good. Oh well.. is this a good opportunity to add #Fireland?
     
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    Can of worms? Pandora's box? This issue is going to go league wide watch. At least the team will be 1st at something, it's been awhile. :)
     
  11. TheWalrus

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    How stupid does Incognito have to be, seriously? You don't yell at the top of your lungs that you want your name cleared when you've sent racial stuff. You send racial stuff, you lose any argument, period. Jonathan Martin could be the world's biggest vagina but it doesn't matter because Richie got racial and that means he loses.
     
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    Ritchie is a ***** tho . . . lost a lot of respect for him. Picking on poor little Martin, he should of taken on Jerry . . . then I'd a been impressed.
     
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    Both Cris Carter and Tom Jackson were visibly pissed off this morning when discussing the matter on the ESPN pregame show, mentioning that this went "beyond hazing" and was "criminal" in nature. Its starting to make sense now, but I still want to hear all the details
     
  15. J. David Wannyheimer

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    Well, two options here:

    1. Richie Incognito really is a complete ****ing moron. I think this is likely.

    2. We're not getting the whole story here. I think this might also be true.
     
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    This... its 1 or the other for sure.
     
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    The Dallas Thomas era begins...maybe
     
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    I still don't want Martin back.
     
  19. TheWalrus

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    Well I didn't think this situation would get racial but this kind of thing is why I was saying in another thread that we had to hold off on figuring out where the line was on Richie's behavior until we heard more of the substance of the allegations.

    It completely changes the game, imo. I wonder how long until one of the actual texts or voicemails gets leaked.
     
  20. Roman529

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    I guess we can write off the rest of this season and start looking at drafting four or five offensive lineman.
     
  21. Tunaphish429

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    Very hard for me to believe that cog is racist. The whole NFL is black. Ur gonna tell me he hates all black ppl in the league even his own team mates? Come on if he is ****ing with him and he is saying racist stuff then what is the big deal? As long as he does not truly mean it then what's the harm? IMO it's really hard for me to believe that if he did say racist **** that he is really racist.


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    Fixed
     
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    Probably both
     
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    I find it hard to believe that Richie has played with black players his entire time in the NFL and now suddenly he's a racist? And especially when it was rumored that Pouncey was also involved in the 'bullying.' I don't know. It just doesn't pass the smell test to me.

    IMO, so much here is just strange, contradictory, or doesn't make sense if we are to take things at face value. Now don't get me wrong, I think Richie most likely crossed the line on more than one occasion, and I'm definitely not discounting the possibility that there was some CAPE FEAR **** going on here, but I still think the entire way Jon Martin has gone about this is very, very questionable.
     
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    You need to know who you can jokingly say off the wall racist stuff to. I dont get the impression that Cog and Martin were anywhere near friendly enough for joke racism to be taken as a joke. Maybe Ritchie was joking and Martin didnt take it that way because they dont have that sort of relationship. Who knows.
     
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    I definitely can see this being an issue in regards to Martin's sexuality (if he is in fact gay) and it's a slippery slope because I'm not sure it's something he wants to expose.

    That said, if there is one thing "more" sensitive right now than racial slurs, it could be gay slurs. Ritchie has picked the wrong can of worms to open.
     
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    Because... yeah. I mean what's so hard to believe about it?
     
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    The gay thing with martin would make sense though... because over the offseason, I remember a report of someone saying that there was a gay player in the Miami Dolphins Locker Room... could this be it??? idc if martin is gay, to each their own, but I just remembered this report
     
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    I think martins gay...then this all makes sense
     
  30. J. David Wannyheimer

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    One dumbass comment made by a drunk guy isn't going to convince me he's a racist. Anybody I've ever known who grew up in a household or area where words like that were commonplace will slip them out now and then. If dropping one n-bomb while drunk makes someone a racist now, then I'd say 90% of Americans are raving bigots.


    Also, uh, who is Zuckerman, Mr. Incognito's best pal guy?
     
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    must be nice living in that ivory tower you're in Tuna. just remember, the NFL is a microcosm of the world the rest of us live in.

    "E pluribus unum"? (yeah right)

    "One nation, under God, indivisible" (only for some)

    "Liberty, and justice for all" (hah!)

    America is the best this world has to offer... but seriously, it needs to stop perpetuating some lies.
     
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    Who the hell is Zuckerman?
     
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    Incognito can't be off this team fast enough. Fire his *** and let him be an elementary school gym teacher where he can make fun of fat kids and black kids all day.
     
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    :lol: Dude's so ****faced off his *** he has no damn idea what the hell he's talking about.
     
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    is he talking about the Facebook guy?
     
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    Kenneth Zuckerman, Martin's agent

    ..and i suspect this guy rd is a friend of Cog's and filling the same function The Rancid Tuna had his toady Mort leak for him.
     
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    George Takei?
     
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    Huh? 90% of America has dropped the n-bomb or it's equivalent while drunk? Du fuq is that?

    I see no reason to believe Riley Cooper that he only did it one time, by the way. That's always a funny line in the apologies, that we're supposed to believe them that they only did it once... when it just so happened a camera was rolling. Haha. I'm sure that's what John Rocker said too, and that guy could get an honorary degree from KKK State, despite having played with lots of black guys.

    And anyway it seems like with this situation there are multiple text messages and at least one voicemail. I'm sure when they're revealed -- and it's almost certain they will be, imo -- a lot of the ambiguity here will be washed away.
     
  39. J. David Wannyheimer

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    86% of statistics are made up on the spot.

    At any rate, I find it amusing that you're so quick to label Riley Cooper an irredeemable ****head racist over one comment. He might well be; I just think it's funny.
     
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    Any black guy on a predominantly white team... or any white guy that's played sports on a predominantly black team has faced "racially tinged" stuff. It happens. I've been challenged to fights simply b.c. of making plays while being white. I've also had black players refer to me as "My Nigga," for making plays. It's just cultural proving grounds. Stuff happens: you get challenged.

    You man up and excel through it, though, and it turns to respect. One thing I've found whether white or black or "green," is that if you're willing to be a man and stand up and be counted on, respect is universal.

    People whining about racial stuff and making this a hate crime. SMH. Pencil pushers and pansies who never played a down of football and who fall over taking passes from a JUGS machine, lol.

    This is one borderline person on brain drugs falling out w. another borderline person who needs to be on brain drugs.

    The fact that they both happen to be Miami Dolphins is on a GM whose brain seems to be ruined by drugs -- or at least his personnel decisions, lol.

    LD
     
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    The point is not that Cooper is definitively a racist, only that it's not improbably that a racist could be in the league for years despite working alongside black people, which is what you were arguing.
     
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    If Incognito has done what is alleged then he needs t be cut. There's no place for that type of garbage anywhere.
     
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    You know I've just gone through irlr1994 -- or what his name is -- posts and I actually believe this guy is either Incognito or someone close to him. He only talks about the offensive line, praises Jeff Darlington (who Richie "trusted" to write the big feature on Richie) and constantly refers to Jason Smith, the legendary #2 overall draft pick bust of the Rams, who was taken when Incognito was there.

    Go back and read through the posts before he or she deletes them. It's striking.
     
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    Yes. I've had racial comments uttered at me in practice or on the field by people who I knew weren't really bigots. And likewise, said things to people in kind. I always kind of assumed that was how it was for everyone, because all of my buddies had the same experience at some point.


    Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. What I should have said, is that I think it's improbable that it hasn't surfaced by now. If Richie really is a racist, and knowing how incredibly poor his impulse control is, there has to be more evidence of this out there. Why is this just coming out now? I mean, this guy has about as much self control as a herd of rabid feral cats...
     
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    just because he said the n word that doesn't make him racist
     
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    To hell with suspending him, just cut Incognito and be done with it. His play has really declined anyway
     
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    people are such sensitive babies these days, u can't say anything anymore without someone throwing a hissu fit
     
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    we have to find out if he said the n word with a "er" or an "a" at then end of it cuz if it was "a" its not racist
     
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    Last week, my friend had to explain to his four year old adopted black son what the n-word is. The kid he heard it from didn't know what it meant, he just knew that my friend's son was one.

    I'm sure that was a fun conversation, explaining to his kid why people think he's an inferior creature because of the way he looks. Of course, that's different from Jonathan Martin...by now I'm sure Martin has been called a ****** hundreds of times. Maybe thousands, given that he's been playing football in front of large crowds for years now. So he should really be over that. It's not like Richie tried to treat him like an inferior creature. I mean, other than shaking him down for money, talking **** and refusing to sit with him, but those are all hilarious antics meant to be in good fun.
     
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    You can always spot those working with a lower IQ....
     
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