GREAT Dan Marino news!!!!!!

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  1. Bodzilla29

    Bodzilla29 The Shiznit

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    Just heard on Sporting News Radio, that Dan the Man Has been elected into the college football Hall Of Fame. What a great acheivement.

    How many more years until he makes it into the Real Hall???
     
  2. Baz

    Baz Ephemeral

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    What were Dan's stats like in college? You see, I was born in 1983, so it was impossible for me to see him play his college ball. Everyone talk about his NFL achievements, but not too many bring up his college acheivements.
     
  3. Bodzilla29

    Bodzilla29 The Shiznit

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    don't you get it? You get edited because your posts have nothing to do with, or degrade the threads that are posted. I posted some interesting news about a revered Dolphin and you degraded it by adding a post that had absolutely no applicable subject matter.

    Post something worthwhile or see all your posts dissapeare. It is up to you.

    (admin note...I completely removed the post from which this was meant for...87)
     
  4. iceblizzard69

    iceblizzard69 Banned Hammered

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    He had a very good college career (I think, I also couldn't watch in 1983) but I think he struggled his senior year, which is why he fell so low in the first round.
     
  5. UncleTed

    UncleTed Well-Known Member

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    He was very good in college. Great news! Whatever happened to the age of tough qb's who stood in the pocket til the last second to get the pass off. Marino, Kelly, Elway, Moon, Young etc... the only ones left with that old school toughness is Favre, Warrener and Bledsoe. Not that everyone else is a wimp, but it's just not the same mentality.
     
  6. Bronx Bills

    Bronx Bills Hey, it's Dave Wannstedt

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    I don't think just because a QB doesn't stand in the pocket that he's not tough. What about Donovan McNabb? I think he's the best QB in the league right now. If I had to start a team and got to pick anyone in the league, I would take McNabb 1st in a heartbeat.

    Anyways, who cares that Marino was selected! More importantly, former Bills Offensive guard Reggie McKenzie was selected to that particular HOF as well. :) Here's the link:

    http://espn.go.com/ncf/news/2002/0507/1379207.html
     
  7. UncleTed

    UncleTed Well-Known Member

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    McNabb is great and McKenzie was a great OG. I do think that McNabb is tough. My point is that most qb's today won't "take one for the team". If the qb pulls the ball down and gets sacked by running when he just needed half a second for the receiver to break that's where I have issues. I've seen that each and every week the last two years in each and every game I watched. We're talking 3 Sunday games and 1 Monday at the least. That's 8 qb's a week. It just irritates me to think about how the qb's used to play compared to what goes on now. McNabb is a freak of nature so he's a little different.
     
  8. Bronx Bills

    Bronx Bills Hey, it's Dave Wannstedt

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    True, but the game has changed. DEs and LBs now run faster than WRs used to run thirty years ago. QBs need to be a little mobile now or they're going to get killed. Like Warner, he's the classic "drop back passer." However, during the Super Bowl he had a few scrambles where he was running all around just to save himself. If a guy is going to stand back in the pocket, wait and wait and wait, and then gets sacked, that's no good. If he avoids the sack by taking off and gets a couple of yards out of the play, that's OK with me.
     
  9. phins054

    phins054 Pitbull

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    He had a very good college career (I think, I also couldn't watch in 1983) but I think he struggled his senior year, which is why he fell so low in the first round.

    Actually it was unfounded drug rumors that made his stock drop...one of his friends and teammates at Pitt got caught and implicated Dan somehow. Even though Dan was cleared of any wrong doing he still fell(luckily) to us at 26. Imagine the genious GMs that selected Ken O'Brien and Todd Blackledge and Tony Eason over Marino...Dan should have been the 2nd QB taken that year...but who am I to criticize...

    Bmarion31...Dan was Really good in college...Off the top of my head If I remember correctly he only lost 4 games in his college career, but one of the knocks on him that the scouts said was that he threw too many INTs...Don't they say the same about Warner?!? who cares if you throw 12-17 ints when you are throwing 40 TDs...:D :D :D
     
  10. inFINSible

    inFINSible Don't believe everything you think.

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    Here's Dans' college career
     
  11. inFINSible

    inFINSible Don't believe everything you think.

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    OMT, I'm pretty sure he played injured for most of his senior season, some sort of leg injury, if I remember correctly.......the way his TD's dropped from his junior season to his senior season was the reason so many teams backed off....
     
  12. UncleTed

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    There's definately a line you can't cross by holding on too long either. DL is faster now but so are the receivers and the qb's. Warrener is the best passer going right now. I'm not saying take a sack, frankly I think that often scrambling results in more sacks. I guess the qb's don't seem as intelligent as they once did. They're more athletic but they're not as good. being savvy in the pocket doesn't necessarily mean running around. Stepping forward or to the side to avoid the sack is just as effective. Also, throw the ball away if it just ain't happening.
     
  13. skippysphins

    skippysphins its all about winning !

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    thats great for dan
     
  14. UncleTed

    UncleTed Well-Known Member

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    Dan didn't struggle his senior year, he had a good career all around. The problem with his draft status is that he had one of the worst wonderlic scores ever. He scored like a 16 I think. Some coaches started asking if he had a learning disability or was dyslexic.
     
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    Hey...props to Mr. Dan

    Not to take anything away from Dan's day, but it's interesting to note who surpassed some of his biggest records at Pitt.
    Give up?

    PASSING
    Career Yards
    Alex Van Pelt 1989-92 -- 11,267
    Season Yards
    Alex Van Pelt 1992 -- 3,163
    Longest Pass Play
    Alex Van Pelt to Dietrich Jells 1992 (Rutgers) -- 91 Yards

    I honestly did not know that until today.
     
  16. Bronx Bills

    Bronx Bills Hey, it's Dave Wannstedt

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    I always knew AVP was better than Marino.
     
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    me 2

    that is why i wasn't surprised w/ his production last year (if you projected his stats for all 16 games he was a top 5 QB in just about every statistical category) and I would have been fine with him starting (but DB was a better choice b/c he can take advantage of PP and E-Mo's downfield abilities)
     
  18. lordofgun

    lordofgun Evil Drew

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    I guess Alex Van Pelt's gonna get in too! He broke all of Danny's records at Pitt!
     
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    Or is just plain dumb as a box of rocks.
     
  20. UncleTed

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    Now that I think about it, he was crosseyed.
     
  21. dolphan4545

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    The rules today favor a running qb-if you throw the ball away inside the tackle box, you can-and will- be called for intentional grounding. A guy can't stand back there 'till the last second-if his receiver doesn't break open, he has no options.
     
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    Is that "hall of fame" based on collegiate stats only? If so, then Alex Van Pelt is on his way to that 'hall of fame", since he blasted through all of Marino's records at pitt!
     
  23. dolphan39

    dolphan39 Maria & LauRen Aha!

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    Re: Re: GREAT Dan Marino news!!!!!!

    yes it is based on college stats/awards

    from
    http://www.miami.com/mld/miami/sports/football/nfl/miami_dolphins/3218376.htm

    P.S.
     
  24. IceStorm

    IceStorm The High Tech Bong Monkey!

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    There was also the "rumor" of drugs (pot) during his senior year, that was disproven many many times, which helped his draft status fall lower then originally expected.
     
  25. dolphan39

    dolphan39 Maria & LauRen Aha!

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    I guess that's a bad thing :goof: probably too much of this :drinker: as well :lol:

    P.S. I thought the rumor was of Coke a much more 80's thing to do :evil:
     
  26. KB21

    KB21 A True Fan

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    It was painkillers. Dan got the nickname PercoDan because there was a nasty little rumor of him using pain killers going around.

    I may have heard something about cocaine as well, but there was definitely a rumor about him using pain killers.
     
  27. Bodzilla29

    Bodzilla29 The Shiznit

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    Hahaha it was the early '80s, every 16-25 yr old had rumors about them using cocaine!!!! Who cares if he did or not, he obviously cleaned up his image, and if he did do coke a few times, who the hell cares, you make mistakes when you are young, you experiment. As long as you aren't making the same mistakes at 29 that you were at 19 you are doing ok.......for the most part! haahahah
     
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    An interesting point was brought up on BBI about this. Sinve Alex Van Pelt broke most of Marino's passing records @ Pitt, should he go to the Hall? I think it's a shame if he does, but they do have a point! Does the NFL career play into making this Hall? Are guys like Danny Weurffel or Charlie Ward going to be accepted even thought their NFL careers didn't pan out??
     
  29. Bodzilla29

    Bodzilla29 The Shiznit

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    Well it is called the COLLEGE football hall of fame for a reason. Why shouldn't Van Pelt get into a collegiate hall of fame when he was a GREAT collegian?

    I think there is a reason Ward never had an NFL career, lil ol thing called FIRST ROUND NBA PICK!

    They say with the new trends of the NFL, Ward might have been a successful QB, but was just before his time and thought he could do better in the NBA.
     
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    I think Ward would have been an awesome NFL QB if someone would have given him a chance. Today's NFL has guys like McNabb & Culpepper that scramble & add another dimension. I still remember those Philly fans booing McNabb @ the draft!!!!
     
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    IceStorm The High Tech Bong Monkey!

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    I might be incorrect about which drug, but it's not like it matters much today. haha Either way, the rumor helped out the Dolphins a million fold.

    :evil:
     
  32. dolphan39

    dolphan39 Maria & LauRen Aha!

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    that's why Don started it ;) :lol:
     
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    IceStorm The High Tech Bong Monkey!

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    Always knew he was a sneaky bastard! lol :lol:
     
  34. codename47

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    As soon as 5 years elapse from his retirement date.
     

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