Lamar Miller > Trent Richardson

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  1. Hayden Fox

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    I will stand by this for the next five years. Miller is electric and has breakaway ability. He is going to light up the combine and be one of the major stories of the week. Richardson is a bruising back that is going to breakdown early in his NFL career.

    I always question Nick Saban's players at the next level. However, regardless, Miller I feel is going to end up being the best RB in this year's class.
     
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    I could definitely see longevity being an issue with Richardson as he doesnt shy away from contact. BUT...I'm still taking Richardson first if we wanted a RB...all day. Guy is a beast.
     
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    you canes fans are a trip...i like miller and all and my biggest beef with richardson is he's not all the elusive takes a lot of contact but when a guys that big and powerful and runs that downhill and can really run like i expect richardson will show at the combine scouts will fall over themselves over the kid
     
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    Richardson will go ahead of Miller, but Miller will be the better pick.

    The bruising running back type is blah...give me game breaking ability and the threat to take it to the house.
     
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    i was really high on richardson coming into the year, but not so much now. i think he will probly disapear like ingram did. but who know. i havent rated rb's yet
     
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    Richardson will be better than Miller. I don't see that one at all. Richardson is a tough runner, who is also a pretty good big play guy when he's not playing LSU. I think you're off on this one Hayden Fox.
     
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    ridchardson is def the best coming out. but with his style how long will he last. miller is number 2, but i have chris polk right behind him. if we didnt have two decent rbs right now i would be down grabing polk in the 3rd if he fell that far, which i dont see happening
     
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    OP's avatar is a University of Minnesota Gopher. C'mon man. Anyway, as a Hurricanes fan, I really don't think Miller is going to be that good. His vision, blocking, and pass catching are all questionable and in the second half of the season dude was playing like a b****.
     
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    I'll be drafting Miller next year in fantasy fo shizzle. Lamar is for real.
     
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    never really paid any attention but yeah thanks for the heads up...i think personally millers a little overrated to be honest...but i do think he's got some pretty good nfl talent...that said if its 1st round for miller i'm a pass guy
     
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    Miller could be special if he didn't play "Just Dance" in the backfield every time.
     
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    The last thing this team needs is a rb. I love Richardson but I'll pass for now.
     
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    I really like Richardson but he is not Adrian Peterson and with what we have in the backfield currently thats what it would take to draft a RB so high. Too many other needs to go after him.
     
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    Millers pass block ability will be a huge liability in the NFL. Guy is a beast but should of stayed another year.

    Went to my highschool, Killian Senior High represent!

    Played ball will Stephen Tulloch.
     
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    I am a Canes fan and I think Miller is the real deal..but if you want a guy that can carry the load for you and maybe even carry your team Richardson is your guy..He is an every down back day one...and he has upside. Bama handcuffed him as far as weight lifting went because they were afraid his spotters would get hurt..Miller is more of a break away threat via speed but Richardson is a guy that can do what Miller can with vision. Defenses dont wanna tackle him. I actually dont see durability as an issue. Players get hurt but this guy is in prime condition. He is a bull. I know Mike Shannhan does not take backs high in drafts( No history of) but if he is there and no qb is there how can you not take him? He would be a monster in that system.
     
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    We don't exactly need a RB (I wasn't impressed with Thomas this season), but if he was there and there was no QB to be had in the 1st, then he's the guy. I doubt Reggie stays healthy next season anyway.
     
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    Big fan of the U, love the Canes but the only thing Miller has over Richardson is speed. He can't create a hole, he can't move the pile and he has bad shoulders. He left early IMO because his shoulders aren't going to let him have a very long career so he better get the money while he can. There is so much of Miller's game that he needs to work on still too. Pass blocking, pass receiving, continuing to drive his legs after contact, getting his pad level down when he approaches the hole, squaring up to the LOS when he runs through the hole...a lot to work on. But, as I mentioned, because of his shoulders I fully understand why he left early.
     
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    i disagree, richardson is on adrian petersons level, miller is more on arian foster level, big difference. Put it this way, if richardson drops to us, we'd be crazy to pass on a phenom like that, even with reggie having a great year.
     
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    I don't want a running back in the first round period. The first running back off the board last year was at #28 to the Saints. Granted Richardson is a better talent than Ingram, but I don't think a running back's value is what it used to be. I think you can find quality depth in FA or in the later rounds.
     
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    Who teh **** is Lamar Miller. does he work at Stanford adn Son?
     
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    LSU held trich in check last night. 96 yards on 20 carries and 34 on one run...


    I like a lot of things about lamar miller, but I don't know if he's better than trent. I'd love to see lamar in miami though. damn.
     
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    Miller is going to blow up his pro day.
     
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    You don't watch a lot of college football do you?
     
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    Richardson is better. I see a lot of Ricky in him but that could be just me.
     
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    You may be right, especially in today's NFL. That's one reason I also like Demps.
     
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    I think miller will be there in the second. As he should be. I hope we never take a runningback in the top ten again. As good as ap is, they cant beat greenbay and green bay doesnt have an AP. You need a qb and playmakers. Miller is a homerun waiting to happen. If miller is around at 42, or wherever we are, hed be quite enticing.
     
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    Interesting. I personally think that Richardson is VERY over-rated....
     
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    Richardson is overrated in the sense that most people will expect him to do in the NFL what he did in college.

    This will not happen because the running game isn't as relied upon in the NFL as it is in the college game these days.

    As far as Lamar Miller...his knee is a concern for me.
     
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    Its amazing really.

    Ive been reading threads for about 15 minutes now and ive barely been able to look at the screen because of my palm being over my face. Reading a bunch of RG3 bs and now this tops it all off.
     
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    These guys aren't in the same neighborhood dude... Richardson is a straight beast and will be a force in the league next season... One of the best rb's that's came out in a while. If we somehow pull off manning or Flynn I wouldn't be opposed to Richardson even though we have bigger needs. Yes I know we need oline safety wr and Te help but Richardson will be a difference maker and someone is going to steal that man if he falls
     
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    If Richardson is available at #8, we should make a deal with whatever team has to have him, Cincy?, and acquire extra picks in the late 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and beyond. We do need a back but we need one to back up Bush, who can do what Bush can do, if Bush gets hurt. I like LaMicheal James in the late 2nd or early 3rd.

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    If we take a RB in early rounds in back to back drafts i will be disappointed.
     
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    Lamar Miller is the truth. Breakaway speed, great agility/allusiveness, good size, and isn't afraid to run a guy over.
     
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    Lamar Miller is soft. He never played a complete game between the tackles--let alone a complete month of hard-running football; he either split time or started going down on first contact. He's not a guy you can lean on. Hard to tell how big of a deal that is/will be in the passing NFL.
     
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    I would of liked Richardson more if he wasn't so into getting bigger...i think he's lost some speed because of that, but he's still going to be a really good RB in the NFL.

    If he wakes up one day and makes up his mind he wants to get his speed back to where it was i think he could very well be a HOF kind of player, but as it is ur still getting a top 8 RB in him.

    Miller is a heck of a RB but he needs to work on some things, but he is a home run hitter.So it really depends on what ur looking for in a RB and it's " OK " to like both.
     
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    We DON'T have TWO decent HBs now: we have ONE. D THOMAS came as close to less-than-mediocre as you'll ever see. Throw in an inability to stay healthy, and the word "bust" comes up. He has shown next to nothing
     
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    Im way past the we need a between ghe tackles kind of guy. Does green bay pound the rock between the tackles? Its about getting the ball in the hands of speed and making big plays.
     
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    Richardson is a mad man..I knew he was going to go top 3 and deserved to that high....that being said this knee issue is a major concern...I think he will bounce back from it...but right now he is a huge doubt...
     
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    RB's bounce back from knee injuries all the time. I'm far more concerned with Miller's shoulders.

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    t richs knee is worrisome imo...dr james andrews...thats never a good thing
     
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    richardson will do all his running in games, the browns offense will run him in the ground, like the nfl does with most young backs
     
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    richardson is going to be a stud. 25-30 carries a game and rookie of the year
     
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    You're going to regret starting this thread
     
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    Maybe. However, considering that Richardson is still not playing and Miller is getting little in touches I am willing to be patient.

    I think Miller is Reggie Bush's replacement next year anyways. More than 3 preseason games does a career make.
     
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    I am telling you Lamar Miller will outshine Trent Richardson in time. Miller showed his explosion today.
     
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    it's not like Richardson played like a beast today...
     
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    There's no questioning his explosion. That was never a concern of mine.

    My concern is his shoulder an his dancing.

    Looked like he left his dancing shows at home today, though.
     

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