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Boomer,
Do you still believe that Young will be a bust in the NFL?
What NFL QB is he most similar too? Aaron Brooks, maybe?

Thanks for the input!!!
 
I am just curious, but where are the Aaron Brooks comparisons coming from? Brooks does not bring the playmaking ability that Young does. Furthermore, Brooks has marginal speed. If you've seen Brooks try to turn the corner, he has very pedestrian speed. Young, on the other hand, has a real burst, and that is the first thing you think of with Young. I do not see any similarity whatsoever other than the obvious social issue which is amateurish or worse to even be considered. Brooks has a decent arm and has not shown the ability to lead to victory. Young, on the other hand, has been a 60% passer, but his decision-making until this season and overall passing has been somewhat suspect, although not nearly as suspect as some people on this board claim. Young will be a top 10 pick this year. People who know what they are talking about are high on Young. Period.
 
Boomer said:
I think it will affect some people, but we'll see. It's been mentioned that Quinn might come out for that reason, but he's likely the #1 overall pick in a year, and there is only so much of a $60 million contract you can spend at once.

It's not so much the contract size, they will still be very large for unproven players. It is the signing bonus and garunteed money that is the issue. If all Quinn can get is a $5 million signing bonus next year for his rookie contract, and then sucks, and washes out, he will loose millions. If Leinart/Bush as the #1 pick this year suck and wash out, they will be garunteed $20+ million.
 
Boomer, do you see Vincent Young as a fit for the Phins? I think his athleticism and arm strength could thrive in this offense..I know he may take a year or two to develop. What are your thoughts on Kitna/Young for the Phins future?
 
Boomer said:
OK, here's a look at who is likely to be in and who is likely to stay from a variety of sources.

Reggie Bush and Winston Justice are in. Take that to the bank. Bush will announce after the Rose Bowl and is, barring a trade, likely to be the #1 overall pick to Houston, who feel they can dramatically improve the OL in FA and at the top of R2. The Carroll thing blaming the media was just hype.

WR Steve Smith is also a likely jumper, whereas safety Darnell Bing is 50-50.

LenDale White's relationship with Snoop Dogg makes it difficult to call. White has said that Snoop will be his agent if and when he becomes a pro, and whilst the White family think he'll stay, the influence of Snoop is looming large.

The Vince Young bangwagon changes hourly. There have been a lot of mixed signals. Most associated with Texas thought he'd enter the draft if Texas wins the national title. But it seems that win or lose he may well be out. OT Justin Blaylock may well declare also.

Devin Hester has been promised more of a role on offense. Hester to my mind is a hugely overrated talent. A great returner, but an average corner. Getting him involved in the offense only complicates the picture. He is likely to stay if that is true. Ryan Moore is staying and so almost certainly are Baraka Atkins and Brandon Meriweather

Minnesota TB Laurence Maroney is out for certain. He's a 1st round lock and a great back.

Joe Thomas, the superb Wisconsin T and TB Brian Calhoun are 50-50. Thomas is a 1, so he may well jump. I think personally he'll stay.

Ohio State receiver Santonio Holmes and cornerback Ashton Youboty will enter the draft. So will Oregon DT Haloti Ngata.

At Fresno State high rising C Kyle Young and cornerback Richard Marshall will declare. Both could fall in the 30-50 region. Look for Marcus McCauley to jump as well.

WR Jason Hill of Washington State will also enter the draft. Should Hill run well for the stopwatch prior to April don't be surprised if he slides into the late part of round one. Meanwhile, running back/return specialist Maurice Drew-Jones is about 50-50 right now. Several feel at worst Drew-Jones will be a mid-second round choice in April while some feel he could slide into the late part of round one.

Hawaii guard Samson Satele is also considering entering the draft.

At Florida, Defensive tackle Marcus Thomas, wide receiver Chad Jackson, cornerback Dee Webb, and running back DeShawn Wynn have petitioned the NFL advisory committee.

Look for Brady Quinn and Omar Jacobs to stay.

Devin Hester has been moved full-time to offense, as he may not have even been a mediocre CB.

Coker has said this to the media that he will play offense full-time and that he'll be back for his senior season.

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=13&p=9&cfg=null&c=2&cid=475164&nid=1832026&fhn=1
 
Keep an eye on Ashton Yobouty from Ohio State. He could find himself into the middle part of the first round with the dearth of cornerbacks in this draft. He's got great size for the position (6'2", 200 lbs), and has great hips in coverage. He can defend the deep part of the field and is a player I feel Nick Saban will have his eyes on. Ashton is one of the more impressive corners I've seen all season.
 
feelthepain said:
Not like this has any validity, but Skip Bayless of 1st and 10 just said that Cutler will be the first player taken in the draft. Infact he is being compared to Bret Favre. Also Cutler has hired Bret Favres agent. Don't prosecute me, just passing info.

Skip went to Vandy, he's just being a homer.
 
SkapePhin said:
Snoop an agent? lol.. This should be good? The 2nd coming of Master P/Ricky Williams?

BTW, thanks Boomer.

when will the players learn. I'm sure RW realizes that hiring master P was one of the worst business decisions of his life.
 
PhinsTD said:
Devin Hester has been moved full-time to offense, as he may not have even been a mediocre CB.

Coker has said this to the media that he will play offense full-time and that he'll be back for his senior season.

Devin Hester should play offense. For his sake and the team's sake. Miami's offense is very basic and does not spread the field. It's essentially dependent on superior athletes not creativity, while USC can either muscle you or trick you. When the Canes play a thug defensive team they are basically at their mercy, no ability to adjust and the interior offensive linemen are not special athletes so they get blown up. The Canes desperately need a premier playmaker like Devin Hester, especially after Tyrone Moss hurt his knee against Va Tech.

I completely disagree with the wording that Devin Hester is a hugely overrated talent. He is a supreme talent who has never been utilized properly. It's possible he's just not bright enough to grasp a complex offense. That's supposedly what kept him off the field as a freshman when he was still listed as an offensive player. In his brief time on offense he has been an absolute blur to the corner on pitchouts and catches the ball effortlessly in the very rare times Miami has thrown it to him. I think a better staff would have kept him on offense and he'd be a much more polished threat right now. You watch the moves and instincts during returns and they are world class, although this year Hester he has been hurt and not been as decisive, preferring to circle back or allow the defenders to draw toward him instead of exploding with a decisive initial move.

I watched Hester's first game on defense in person against La Tech in 2004. They tried him at safety initially and he just wandered around. His first play he took a terrible angle and the play netted 65 yards. At corner he was better because he's basically playing a man and not a responsibility so the competitive nature kicked in, but he never looked natural doing it, or even totally committed.

Ryan Moore is too mediocre to turn pro. Merriweather has improved but I'd be surprised if he went. Atkins and Hester are the two guys I expected to turn pro or seriously consider it. They have ability and can move up the charts via workouts. Very rare for the Canes not to have anyone leave early.
 
jlfin said:
when will the players learn. I'm sure RW realizes that hiring master P was one of the worst business decisions of his life.

The idea itself is no worse than hiring a family member to negotiate your contract or even worse doing it yourself (ask Teddy Bruschi).

Ricky Williams' contract reflects Ricky Williams' character. That contract was set up the way it was because of Ricky, not because of Master P. The idea of playing for your pay appealed highly to Ricky. I wouldn't be surprised if P tried to school him against it.

And besides, knowing Snoop, he'll let all his HWD's do the negotiating (Hired White Dudes)
 
Boomer...Do you think Paul Posluszny LB from Penn Stae will come out early...he just won the Bednarik award for outstanding defensive player. The kid is a tackling machine.
 
I see the fins taking a nice playmaking TE to compliment McMike. Someone with reliable hands to play next to, flexed, or on the other side of Randy. Some I like:

Pope from GA - underclass
Thomas - TX - SR
King - VT - not sure?

-GV
 
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