TrogdorTheBurninator
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I'm surprised people still view Watson as a top 10.
I'm surprised people still view Watson as a top 10.
Herbert? You have to be kidding here.
I'm surprised people still view Watson as a top 10.
Sure but I'm not putting Wilson in there for how he did with Seattle either.I'm surprised so many people down-play how stunning he was in Houston as a young QB:
2017 - 103 rating
2018 - 103 rating
2019 - 98 rating
2020 - 112 rating
Through his first 4 seasons he was a stud who was considered among the most physical talented and exciting QBs in the NFL! And he's only played about 11 full games since joining the Cleveland Browns.
I think you have to assume Watson snaps back to reality at some point. His past two years have been pretty disappointing compared to his Houston years.
> He played 6 games in 2022, posting a 79 rating.
> He played 5 full games in 2023 resulting in an 84 rating.
The Browns made the Playoffs last year so the possibility for Watson returning to some kind of form and that Browns being a strong team is certainly there.
Not to mention that being in the Top-10 isn't very high when you realize the AFC only has 14 starting QBs. The Broncos and Patriots don't even have starters right now.
Sure but I'm not putting Wilson in there for how he did with Seattle either.
Ah yeah, good point. I knew that, then didnt consider ittop 10 in AFC, not in the entire league.
Fair enough, and as Blake pointed out Watson being top 10 in the AFC isn't unfair. I stand corrected.That's another one. I don't get the Russell Wilson hate.
The guy posts a 98 rating with 26 TDs and 8 INTs last year and people act like he's Daniel Jones.
Over-priced? Sure. But a bad QB? No way!
I can. Talent alone did nothing. You want examples? JaMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Vince Young, David Carr,E J Manuel, the list of talented QB's that never make it is long and littered with QB "tombstones". That kid has done nothing...You cant deny his talent. The ranking is based on talent alone, not success/wins/etc.
Totally agree...But to most people, even the ones you see on TV, The "Big guy with a strong arm" is their definition of QB talent.talking in general.
Size has 0 to do with talent.
You could be a big and sloppy and it’s not getting you any points in the talent dept.
Qb talent, is a combination of throwing talent, mechanics, motion, release quickness, athletic ability to maneuver and make plays, and the level of mental acuity to process the game.
I think 9 of the top 10 play on the AFC. Only Purdy (NFC) makes my list and he is a system QB. I’d put Tua at the 7-8 range right now. Mahomes, Stroud, Burrow, Allen, Jackson, Purdy, Rodgers, Tua, Lawrence and Herbert.
I can. Talent alone did nothing. You want examples? JaMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Vince Young, David Carr,E J Manuel, the list of talented QB's that never make it is long and littered with QB "tombstones". That kid has done nothing...
1. Mahomes. 2. Burrow. 3. Jackson . 4 Rogers. 5. Allen 6. Lawrence. 7. Herbert. 8 Tua.9. Stroud 10. Watson