Slimm's Underrated Prospects: (Seniors)

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  1. TedSlimmJr

    TedSlimmJr Hartselle Tigers (15-0) 5-A State Champ

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    Quarterbacks:

    Brad Sorensen - Southern Utah

    Zac Dysert - Miami (OH)

    Ryan Nassib - Syracuse

    Sean Renfree - Duke




    Runningbacks:

    Stepfan Taylor - Stanford

    Zac Stacy - Vanderbilt

    Dennis Johnson - Arkansas

    Mike Gillislee - Florida

    Zach Line - SMU

    D.J. Monroe - Texas

    Shawn Alston - West Virginia

    Latavius Murray - UCF

    Richard Samuel - Georgia




    Tight Ends:

    Jack Doyle - Western Kentucky

    Chris Gragg - Arkansas

    Nick Kasa - Colorado

    Ryan Otten - San Jose St.

    Chase Harper - Texas St.

    Justice Cunningham - South Carolina




    Wide Receivers:

    Javone Lawson - UL-Lafayette

    Emory Blake - Auburn

    Quinton Patton - Louisiana Tech

    Marcus Rucker - Memphis

    Alec Lemon - Syracuse

    Dan Buckner - Arizona

    Matt Austin - Utah St.

    Rodney Smith - Florida St.

    Marquis Goodwin - Texas

    Frankie Hammond - Florida

    Tyrone Goard - Eastern Kentucky

    Zach Rogers - Tennessee

    Mike Smith - UCONN

    Chad Bumphis - Mississippi St.





    Safeties:

    Cody Davis - Texas Tech

    Dexter McCoil - Tulsa

    Shamarko Thomas - Syracuse

    Jahleel Addae - Central Michigan

    Malcolm Bronson - McNeese St.

    Kemal Ishmael - UCF

    Duke Williams - Nevada

    Johnathan Cyprien - Florida International





    Offensive Tackles:

    Jeff Nady - Nevada

    Tanner Hawkinson - Kansas



    Offensive Guards:

    Chris McDonald - Michigan St.

    Adam Masters - UCONN

    Mark Popek - USF (looks like a tackle to me)

    Mark Jackson - Glenville St.




    Center:

    Braxton Cave - Notre Dame

    Joe Madsen - West Virginia




    DE/OLB:

    Quanterus Smith - Western Kentucky

    Trevardo Williams - UCONN

    Toben Opurum - Kansas

    Lerentee McCray - Florida

    Walter Stewart - Cincinnati

    Jamie Collins - Southern Miss

    Cornellius Carradine - Florida St.

    Travis Long - Washington St.

    David Bass - Missouri Western St.

    Willie Jefferson - Stephen F. Austin

    Lavar Edwards - LSU





    DT/DE:

    Joe Vellano - Maryland

    Jake McDonough - Iowa St.

    Josh Mauro - Stanford

    Izaan Cross - Georgia Tech

    Anthony Rashad-White - Michigan St.

    Brandon Williams - Missouri Southern St.





    Cornerback:

    Terry Hawthorne - Illinois

    Broderick Brown - Oklahoma St.

    D.J. Hayden - Houston

    B.W. Webb - William & Mary

    Darius Slay - Mississippi St.

    Marcus Williams - North Dakota St.

    T'Sharvan Bell - Auburn





    Outside Linebacker:

    Khaseem Greene - Rutgers

    Zaviar Gooden - Missouri

    Jeron Gouveia-Winslow - Virginia Tech

    Daren Bates - Auburn



    Inside Linebacker:

    Demetrius Hartsfield - Maryland

    Steve Beauharnais - Rutgers

    Jake Johnson - South Alabama

    Cameron Lawrence - Mississippi St.

    Bruce Taylor - Virginia Tech
     
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  2. hoops

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    no curtis mcneal the back for usc...underrated kid there...gonna make a pro roster
     
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    You don't think the O-lineman turned DE from Missouri (I think his name is Brad Madison) is underrated? I mean for a guy who was playing OL just last year he's done some nice things. Could be a kid with a lot of potential and room for growth.
     
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    Nassib is going to be one of those kids that is going to rise thru the draft process IMO. His team is god awful and to be honest I think some of the Syracuse play calling is lack luster...Of coursed they are strapped for talent..Syracuse played Stony Brook this past weekend and was losing at half time. They also had a goalline situation and were afraid to try and punch the ball in...

    But Back on Nassib, he has good arm strength and accuracy, He also has good size and anticapation with his throws. He is also pretty athletic. I think he ends up going in around the 3rd round.
     
  5. TedSlimmJr

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    Overrated; Significantly flawed in certain areas that I absolutely do not like:



    Landry Jones / QB / Oklahoma

    Mike Glennon / QB / N.C. State

    E.J. Manuel / QB / Florida St.

    Alex Carder / QB / Western Michigan

    Johnathan Franklin / RB / UCLA

    Isi Sofele / RB / California

    Terrence Williams / WR / Baylor

    Russell Shepard / WR / LSU

    Keenan Davis / WR / Iowa

    Cobi Hamilton / WR / Arkansas

    T.J. McDonald / S / USC

    Shawn Williams / S / Georgia

    David Quessenberry / OT / San Jose St.

    Omoregie Uzzi / OG / Georgia Tech

    Braden Hansen / OG / BYU

    Camden Wentz / C / N.C. State

    Kenny Tate / OLB / Maryland
     
  6. TedSlimmJr

    TedSlimmJr Hartselle Tigers (15-0) 5-A State Champ

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    I don't necessarily dislike Curtis McNeal, in fact I think he could be considered underrated for what he is.... which is an undersized scatback. However, there's just other backs in that category that I think are a little better. The fact that Lane Kiffin went so hard after Silas Redd in the first place and beat him out after less than a month in a Trojan uniform doesn't help him. Redd is merely decent, and has no clue when it comes to pass protection.
     
  7. TedSlimmJr

    TedSlimmJr Hartselle Tigers (15-0) 5-A State Champ

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    Madison is a decent prospect but he's been playing on the defensive line for several years. He couldn't do anything with LaAdrian Waddle, Luke Joeckel, or Jake Matthews last year... which are NFL caliber offensive tackles. I think if he's considered as a mid-late rounder it suits him about right.
     
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    Love Brad Sorenson. I think he's a guy a team can snag in the mid rounds and develop into a decent player.

    Unsure about Nassib. I know he looked great against Northwestern, but against USC he looked extremely nervous in the pocket. I understand USC is a talented team, but their front 7 outside of Dion Bailey isn't much to write home about.
     
  9. TedSlimmJr

    TedSlimmJr Hartselle Tigers (15-0) 5-A State Champ

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    Nassib just tries to do too much a lot of times because he knows he has to for Syracuse to win. I've watched him for 3 years and he's always been a gamer, that's his best attribute. A lot like it was Jake Locker's best attribute. He didn't look extremely nervous in the pocket against USC, he just made some bad decisions by trying to do too much. He still played a terrific game despite making some early mistakes. He brought his team back from 3 score deficits twice against USC in the 2nd half. His defense had a chance to get a key stop when Syracuse had the momentum that would give him the ball back again, only to see 3 Syracuse defenders all miss what amounts to a routine tackle on the TE (Grimble) that let him score.

    He's never really playing with a lead, he's always playing from behind and has to press his luck.


    Now if you want to see what nervous in the pocket looks like watch Mike Glennon. Landry Jones' pocket presence is only slightly better than Glennon's. It gets worse every year for him.
     
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    ah yes, Mike Glennon... the man O'Brien chose over Russell Wilson at NC State

    I should clarify what I meant by nervous with Nassib, there were a bunch of points I felt he got happy feet a bit too much and it hurt his throws
     
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    Darius Slay is a nice call. I'm bound to have a soft spot for Dwayne's little brother. I used to love watching Dwayne play, though obviously he was too slow for the pro game.
     
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    Man, Quinton Patton abused the **** out of Terry Hawthorne.
     
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    So for the forth year running I poise the question, if Miami wanted to draft a play making FS who is the ticket this off season? Assuming Jones keeps improving and locks down the SS position.

    Do any of your underrated players on this list fit the bill in a round 2 or 3 or does Miami have to go after a one the first?
     
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    I still think the Dolphins may have a FS solution already on roster. Like it or not, Richard Marshall is here on a pretty significant contract. I'd like to try him there and then revamp the corner unit.
     
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    Good point CK, I hadn't entertained that idea I guess. Food for thought.
     
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    He played safety about a third of the time he was in the game for the Arizona Cardinals last year. I thought it was clear he was more part of the problem than part of the solution when it came to his playing CB on the outside, however he looked good to me when he played safety. He's got the instincts to see the play and pull the trigger, and the ability to get out of tough spots. Plus, he's a decent tackler (usually).

    I just don't like him in man coverage on the outsides, especially when he has to stay with a guy deep.
     
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    I had hoped that Wilson would become a pleasant surprise in the Miami secondary but the more I watch him the more I am trending away from him, he'll never be anything more than a good ST player and perhaps a 3rd or 4th corner/ backup safety.
     
  18. TedSlimmJr

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    I doubt I'd go after one in the 1st round.

    I'd look at Bacarri Rambo, Kenny Vaccarro, Dexter McCoil, Cody Davis, Robert Lester, Shamarko Thomas, Jahleel Addae, Malcolm Bronson, Duke Williams, Kejuan Riley, and John Boyett at various points throughout the draft in terms of Seniors. Boyett's season is over but I've always liked this kid. Dexter McCoil and Cody Davis are two of the most underrated defenders that I've seen.

    I'd be looking at Nickoe Whitley, Matt Elam, Eric Reid, Lamarcus Joyner, Tony Jefferson, and Isaiah Lewis if they declare early. Jefferson is more of a S/S than a F/S but he has incredible instincts and knows how to play smart defensive football. Excellent tackler in the open field because he breaks down so well.

    I was a stern believer that Reshad Jones would be a lot better used in a more traditional S/S role. I figured him to break out last year and I was probably a year early with that call.
     
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    I think Michael Stewart will be one to watch as the draft approaches.
     
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    Michael Mauti the LB out of Penn State may surprise a few people and make an NFL roster IMHO. At first blush he appears to be the classic small efficient PSU LB that just isn't big enough to make it in the NFL, but I could see him being the exception to the rule. If I were to go looking for the next stunning surprise ala Zach Thomas ... I'd start by giving Mauti a cloooooooooooose look. Just sayin'.
     
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    I really like the way Stacy runs.

    I don't know that we can spend an early pick on a RB, but if he's there in the 4th, I'd pull the trigger. More I watch him, though, I think he goes 2nd or 3rd RD.
     
  22. TedSlimmJr

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    Michael Mauti is a kid that I really like at the ILB position. I think you make a good point about him being the classic small efficient Penn St. linebacker. He's essentially the same type prospect that Sean Lee and Paul Posluszny were, including fighting back through the knee surgeries.

    Mauti is an excellent special teams player and that alone will get him on a roster.



    I remember when we were recruiting Jonathan Stewart to Alabama, but we already had Donta Hightower so we cooled on him. Stewart is a typical big, 2-down type linebacker to bang around on the inside of a 3-4 defense, but I certainly don't see anything special. He was a key cog on one of the worst defenses in the country last year. Misses tackles.... saw a lot of that against Florida a couple weeks ago.
     
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    I think you are right on about Mark Popek - OG out of USF being underrated. The guy was named to the Outland Watchlist before the season started and didn't get a chance to show his talent this year due to injuries. You are also right about him looking like a tackle. He played OT in his prior seasons with the Bulls and was moved to Guard due to needs. The kid can play any position on the line and has the size to compete in the NFL. I don't know why he isn't being projected as a middle round pick.
     
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    You certainly hit the nail on the head over rating keenan davis.

    As an iowa hawkeye fan, keep the phins and this dude far apart.
     
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    Im verysuprised WR Chris Harper is not on the underrated list.Needs a little developement but I see alot of James Jones in him.
     
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    Quinton Patton is gonna be a steal for someone.

    I couldn't agree more about Jonathan Franklin and Terrance Williams being overrated
     
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    Richard Samuel- Georgia. He was 4th String RB behind two true freshman and a rSO. He isnt underrated. He just isnt very good. I saw where you had a safety from Georgia, Shawn Williams, listed as overrated. How is he overrated? i havent seen him rated high enough by anyone to be overrated.
     
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    Well Slimm I'd have to say you were a year early on the Jones prediction lol but I'd rather have it a year late than never!!! Jones has been a pleasant surprise, I was also on the the wagon to move him over to SS but I didn't think he'd take to the switch like he has. I figured modest improvement to a solid starting roll, right now he seems to have major improvement and the potential to have an above average starting roll.

    That finally takes some pressure off the safety position, with that said I still believe that Miami needs help at FS. Someone needs to push or move Clemons, but even Clemons showed improvements in this defense so that is encouraging. Maybe now you can take a stab at getting a solid corner to play opposite Smith (assuming he is re-signed).
     
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    I start considering Patton with our first 2nd round pick. Like him a lot.
     
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    I see a lot of body catches, which concern me about him. Rarely highpoints the ball and leaves a lot of yards of the field as a result. Other than that, you could make arguments for a very high second round pick. But I worry about his hands.
     
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    I haven't noticed an issues with body catching. Not saying it's not there, but I haven't noticed it.
     
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    I like Patton and looked at some of his film. I think he could fit as a dolphin but just like the scoring ability of Bailey from short and longer routes.

    SU fan here and watched SU tear up Louisville up close. Nassib IMO will transpose nicely to the NFL. He had some guys who are not quite all there all the time in a no-huddle offense but when they clicked from pass to running game striking long runs Nassib was on fire. Smart kid with a Finance degree on the way. Dedicated. He misses throws but sometimes you cant tell if its the WR missing the route or call at LOS.

    I certainly would consider him in the 5th round but I think his stock is rising. Buffalo will definitely take a good look at him and they are proud of local products. He could get taken in the second round should Buffalo bypass QB in the first. Marone getting interviewed by Buffalo too.
     

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