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Quarterback:

Kurt Hess - Youngstown St.

A.J. McCarron - Alabama

Casey Pachall - TCU

Tyler Tettleton - Ohio

Derek Carr - Fresno St.

Kolton Browning - UL-Monroe




Runningback:

LaDarius Perkins - Mississippi St.

Jeff Scott - Ole Miss

Marcus Coker - Stony Brook

Giovani Bernard - North Carolina

Stefphon Jefferson - Nevada

Branden Oliver - Buffalo




Wide Receiver:

Ace Sanders - South Carolina

Jordan Matthews - Vanderbilt

Kevin Norwood - Alabama

Kenny Bell - Alabama

DeAndre Hopkins - Clemson

Josh Boyce - TCU

Tevin Reese - Baylor

Jared Abbrederis - Wisconsin

Cody Hoffman - BYU

Bernard Reedy - Toledo

Devin Street - Pittsburgh






Tight End:

Jordan Reed - Florida

Dion Sims - Michigan St.

Jacob Pederson - Wisconsin

C.J. Fiedorowicz - Iowa

Justin Jones - East Carolina






Offensive Tackle:

Morgan Moses - Virginia

Justin Pugh - Syracuse

Andrew Rodriguez - Nebraska

Zach Martin - Notre Dame




Offensive Guard:

Brandon Linder - Miami

Spencer Long - Nebraska

Mason Walters - Texas

Anthony Steen - Alabama

Cyril Richardson - Baylor

Alvin Bailey - Arkansas

Zach Fulton - Tennessee




Center:

Travis Frederick - Wisconsin






DE/OLB:

Chidera Uzo-Diribe - Colorado

Kareem Martin - North Carolina

J.R. Collins - Virginia Tech

Ryne Giddins - South Florida

Roosevelt Nix - Kent St.

Ed Stinson - Alabama





DT/DE:

Cassius Marsh - UCLA

Sharrif Floyd - Florida

Derrick Hopkins - Virginia Tech

Nakita Whitlock - Wake Forest

Aaron Donald - Pittsburgh

Johnathan Hankins - Ohio St.

Louis Nix - Notre Dame






Outside Linebacker:

Kyle Van Noy - BYU

Kevin Pierre-Louis - Boston College

Jordan Hicks - Texas

DeDe Lattimore - South Florida





Inside Linebacker:

Chris Borland - Wisconsin

Preston Brown - Louisville

Max Bullough - Michigan St.

James Morris - Iowa

Andrew Jackson - Western Kentucky





Cornerback:

Nickell Robey - USC

Andre Hal - Vanderbilt

Kyle Fuller - Virginia Tech

Justin Gilbert - Oklahoma St.

Logan Ryan - Rutgers

Ricardo Allen - Purdue

Darqueze Dennard - Michigan St.






Safety:

Nickoe Whitley - Mississippi St.

Matt Elam - Florida

Lamarcus Joyner - Florida St.

Ahmad Dixon - Baylor

Hakeem Smith - Louisville

C.J. Barnett - Ohio St.

Isaiah Lewis - Michigan St.
 
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I would have totally missed this thread had I not been so bored and scrolled to the near bottom, it would he cool if we could move all the guru threads to the guru sub forum?
 
Slimm, would love to hear your thoughts on Robey. The easy comparison seems to be Mathieu without the baggage. Is that fair?
 
I think Robey brings some of the same value that Mathieu brings in terms of being a smaller nickel/ slot corner that also adds value as a punt returner.... although not quite the punt return ability that Mathieu has.

However, Robey is much better in coverage to me. Reminds me a little bit of Tim Jennings when he came out of Georgia.
 
Slimm what do you think of Jake Ryan from Michigan? Kid has some weaknesses in his game, but all he does is make plays
 
Slimm, I need your take on Tavon Austin from West Virginia. Watching him tear up my Longhorns, it looked like he was always going a different speed and puts up huge #'s. I'm seeing he's a mid round guy, what are your thoughts?
 
grushcow said:
Slimm, I need your take on Tavon Austin from West Virginia. Watching him tear up my Longhorns, it looked like he was always going a different speed and puts up huge #'s. I'm seeing he's a mid round guy, what are your thoughts?
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Probably the best combination of slot receiver/return ability in the Senior class of receivers. I think you have to look at small, fast players like Tavon Austin and assess their limitations first... after you've come to that understanding, assess their skills and talent. Figure out if a player like this can fit and be a weapon in your particular style of offense. He's a luxury pick for the most part, and will produce if he goes to the right place.

I think the ideal role for players like this if you can make it happen is similar to what Jermaine Lewis was for the Ravens in the mid 90's.. he was a pro bowler for a couple of seasons as a slot receiver/return specialist at about 5'7", 180 pounds. Lewis came off the board in the 5th round, although Austin likely comes off earlier than that.... 3rd/4th round area probably.

Az-Zahir Hakim was a similar type player for the Rams and Kurt Warner back when they had the best offense in the league.

In other words, this is not the type of player you're going to make your first option on offense in the NFL..... he's limited to the slot as a receiver. However, if you're an offense looking for more of a dynamic, 3rd or 4th option on offense, and looking to upgrade your return units on special teams.... the potential is there to strike oil with a talent like Tavon Austin. He typically plays at a different speed against everybody, not just Texas.
 
ChambersWI said:
Slimm what do you think of Jake Ryan from Michigan? Kid has some weaknesses in his game, but all he does is make plays
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I can't speak on him because I haven't spent any time on defensive players for the Wolverines this year... literally none. I typically spend my time on Michigan towards a few kids on the offensive side.
 
Slimm would you consider Swope a underrated guy? Do you see him as a definite target maybe with one of our 2nd rounders or will he not even make it THAT far?

Personally I see Jordy Nelson in him and well Philbin having Nelson and both our OC and QB are very familiar with him makes me think they are all over him. I know we need a boundary guy do you see us trying to get him as well because you cannot have too many receivers in this league.
 
Justin Jones is 6'8 257 pounds... If his 40 time is good he will go early just because his size!

By the way he is just about the same size as Lebron of course Lebron has more muscle though but thats still ridiculous.
 
Dolphinator530 said:
Slimm would you consider Swope a underrated guy? Do you see him as a definite target maybe with one of our 2nd rounders or will he not even make it THAT far?

Personally I see Jordy Nelson in him and well Philbin having Nelson and both our OC and QB are very familiar with him makes me think they are all over him. I know we need a boundary guy do you see us trying to get him as well because you cannot have too many receivers in this league.
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It would be pretty difficult for me to find Swope as an underrated receiver. It has nothing to do with his talent, but everybody knows about him. He's mentioned a lot around here specifically.

I don't think Swope is an overrated player, but I think it's possible that he gets a little overrated here.

I certainly wouldn't be suprised to see him end up in a Dolphin uniform simply because of his familiarity with Sherman's offense and Tannehill inparticular. However, Swope has probably struggled the most out of the aTm receivers in adjusting to Coach Sumlin's offense. The two freshman, Mike Evans and Thomas Johnson, are ahead of where Swope is in terms of Sumlin's offense.

Sumlin's offense is based more off the 4-verticals concept that's typical of spread offenses with it's roots in the Run-and-Shoot as opposed to Sherman's west coast principles.

I don't necessarily see Jordy Nelson qualities within Swope because he's not quite as big, fast, or athletic as Nelson was. The thing that I always liked about Swope was his consistency in Sherman's offense, although he's not quite as comfortable in Sumlin's. He had good chemistry with Tannehill in Sherman's offense particularly when it came to broken plays. He would always work back towards Tannehill, or separate vertically to create big plays.
 
Nice to see Jordan Reed on that list, I'm at bit biased being a gators fan but this guy could solve a big need for us and with the plethora of 2nd's and 3rd's we have t his year, we could be in the ideal spot to pick him up.

His stock may rise though if the Gators win it all. Florida has some really good talent coming out this year, some nice fits for the fins too.
 
I love Jordan Reed. Solid athlete, but his game definitely needs a little polishing, particularly blocking. I don't see much reason for him to leave early which is fine by me.
 
Slimm I was reading ESPN's early look at the 2013 draft and they mention a couple of sleepers. One is Anthony Barr from UCLA who's 6'4" 235 lbs and has 12 sacks...and the other is a LT from Central Michigan by the name of Eric Fisher who is 6'7" 305 lbs and a senior. I did some research and it seems he's climbing up boards pretty quickly, some have him as a late first round-early second round prospect...it's the first I've heard of him. Have you seen this kid play?

Who is the biggest sleeper on your board right now?

Kiper: For just "pure sleeper" in the sense of a guy nobody has seen, I'll go with Eric Fisher of Central Michigan, who could be starting for someone at tackle next season. I wanted to highlight him on a "SportsCenter" segment the other day and we had trouble finding enough tape. He's a guy that many haven't seen, but the MAC always has talent. Currently, he's No. 21 on my Big Board.

The other kind of sleeper for me is a player who nobody had rated high at the outset of the year but has totally exploded as a prospect. On defense, start with Anthony Barr, a pass-rusher from UCLA. This is a kid who was a fullback last year who wasn't really going anywhere. The coaches, to their credit, flipped him to the defensive side of the ball and he's been an absolute terror as a pass-rusher. After one year on defense, he could be drafted in the top 15 to play more of it come April. Right now, Barr is No. 13 on my Big Board.

On offense, go with Cordarelle Patterson of Tennessee. A wide receiver, he was highly regarded in junior college. In his first game of D-I college football, he went crazy against NC State. He has averaged 17 yards a catch and has star potential if he can develop technically. He's currently No. 10 on my Big Board and the No. 1 wide receiver prospect.
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/hotread-2013-nfl-draft/nfl-hot-read-10-things-know-2013-draft
 
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