The title of this thread is "The ACC is Just Better" not "The ACC will Be Better with Miami" or "Miami is better off in the ACC" ; if that's what you mean then just change it . Otherwise you need to include UM in your rants...Once you include Miami into the Big East rankings for those years (seeing as how they were still in the Big East when you made this thread and still in the Big East when these polls came out) it makes it a lot more even (maybe a little lopsided towards the Big East)...If I'm not mistaken it was:
2002:
11. NC state
13. Maryland
23. FSU
25. Virginia
2. Miami
14. Virginia Tech
18. Pittsburgh
20. West Virginia
2001:
11. Maryland
15. FSU
24. Georgia Tech
1. Miami
14. Syracuse
18. Virginia Tech
20. BC
2000:
5. FSU
16. Clemson
17. Georgia Tech
2. Miami
6. Virginia Tech
1999:
1. FSU
20. Georgia Tech
2. Virginia Tech
The only year that the ACC is clear cut better is '99 (right at the end of Miami's down cycle), other than that both in '01 and '02 the Big East was better once you enter in Miami. Compare both conferences with out their power houses (the ACC without FSU, the Big East without Miami) and the Big East still looks better with VT being the best program recently out of the group. Remember that if in the past few years Miami wasn't in the Big East, it would not have been dominating every Big East opponent they played, thus every other Big East schools' rankings would be higher. So all those rankings are pointless if you do not include Miami.
Either way, for you to say that the ACC has been more competitive as a conference is nonsence. Since FSU joined the ACC, they have been the Conference Champ every year except 2001 and last year (the most recent and telling year of the conference) nobody in the conference looked as if they deserved a BCS bid and FSU got blown out of the water in their bowl game.
If your interested in the past of ACC and how it compares to the Big East, do me a favor and tally up the total National Championships in football in the ACC and compare them to the Big East. Sorry, I just have to disagree with everything you have said in this thread.
2002:
11. NC state
13. Maryland
23. FSU
25. Virginia
2. Miami
14. Virginia Tech
18. Pittsburgh
20. West Virginia
2001:
11. Maryland
15. FSU
24. Georgia Tech
1. Miami
14. Syracuse
18. Virginia Tech
20. BC
2000:
5. FSU
16. Clemson
17. Georgia Tech
2. Miami
6. Virginia Tech
1999:
1. FSU
20. Georgia Tech
2. Virginia Tech
The only year that the ACC is clear cut better is '99 (right at the end of Miami's down cycle), other than that both in '01 and '02 the Big East was better once you enter in Miami. Compare both conferences with out their power houses (the ACC without FSU, the Big East without Miami) and the Big East still looks better with VT being the best program recently out of the group. Remember that if in the past few years Miami wasn't in the Big East, it would not have been dominating every Big East opponent they played, thus every other Big East schools' rankings would be higher. So all those rankings are pointless if you do not include Miami.
Either way, for you to say that the ACC has been more competitive as a conference is nonsence. Since FSU joined the ACC, they have been the Conference Champ every year except 2001 and last year (the most recent and telling year of the conference) nobody in the conference looked as if they deserved a BCS bid and FSU got blown out of the water in their bowl game.
If your interested in the past of ACC and how it compares to the Big East, do me a favor and tally up the total National Championships in football in the ACC and compare them to the Big East. Sorry, I just have to disagree with everything you have said in this thread.