Who is our new third down back?
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I like Leveon Bell out of Michigan State. Here check out his highlights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zEJ5cTI4CE
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Lamar Miller is actually bigger than Bush by 15lbs with comparable elusiveness and speed.
Daniel Thomas folds like origami. I don't see him in the picture much longer at all.
Jonas Gray will be a great option (if he is healthy and gets the opportunity.) @ 225lbs He's not afraid to lower the shoulder and he always falls forwards/never has grass stains on the back of his jersey. He's also a very solid receiver out of the backfield. (This opinion formed from watching every game of his ND career)
You already mentioned Lane, he's a big big boy who I would feel good about getting a yard if my life depended on it. I don't see him falling backwards in any situations. SEE BELOW (x2).
Daniel Thomas folds like origami. I don't see him in the picture much longer at all.
Jonas Gray will be a great option (if he is healthy and gets the opportunity.) @ 225lbs He's not afraid to lower the shoulder and he always falls forwards/never has grass stains on the back of his jersey. He's also a very solid receiver out of the backfield. (This opinion formed from watching every game of his ND career)
You already mentioned Lane, he's a big big boy who I would feel good about getting a yard if my life depended on it. I don't see him falling backwards in any situations. SEE BELOW (x2).
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Lamar Miller is actually bigger than Bush by 15lbs with comparable elusiveness and speed.
Daniel Thomas folds like origami. I don't see him in the picture much longer at all.
Jonas Gray will be a great option (if he is healthy and gets the opportunity.) @ 225lbs He's not afraid to lower the shoulder and he always falls forwards/never has grass stains on the back of his jersey. He's also a very solid receiver out of the backfield.
You already mentioned Lane, he's a big big boy who I would feel good about getting a yard if my life depended on it. I don't see him falling backwards in any situations. SEE BELOW (x2).
I am not sure if you are using the same definition for third down back as I am. I am saying when we are in shot gun or are in third and long situations who is our best bet for pass blocking and pass catching out of the back field?
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More from Lane...
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And I fully comprehend what you're saying/asking. And I'm giving you my opinion of the available options on our roster, minus Bush. I've also left out my take on Marcus Thigpen as I don't really have an opinion of him, not enough data to form one.
How was Bush best utilized in New Orleans based on his skill set? Receiving out of the backfield. Hence why I said Miller is similar to Reggie, but with an extra 15lbs. So he obviously would be a great receiving option for our offense. If Lamar gets better in pass protection then he becomes a much needed weapon/solid option. And you mention Thigpen being fast and a good receiver, when Miller will be our go to guy, no doubt about it (as of now). I'll take Lamar over Marcus ALL DAY. Miller is an inch taller, and almost 30lbs heavier. He's 5 years younger, and a heck of a lot faster, plus he's got WAYYYYYYYY more upside.
Look at Lanes size, so he's obviously another solid option for blocking/protection. Also, I've provided video evidence as to his ability to fight/gain much needed yards. And the video also shows him receiving out of the backfield, so he's a double threat there.
The only thing Daniel Thomas has ever shown is that he runs way to high for his own good and has an affinity to coughing up the rock. That's why I think the guy is like Swiss cheese. Not to mention he was a converted QB in college who only played 2 years of RB (why I don't think he'll last much longer.)
I guess it depends on what you mean by a 3rd down back.... What's the situation???
What if its 3rd and >2?? You're going to go with a guy who can pound out some short yards.
If its 3rd and 5, are you going with a receiving threat out of the backfield?
Say its 3 & 10+ (might have 4 wide) and need a RB to stay into pass protect?
It's all about the situation my friend.
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And I fully comprehend what you're saying/asking. And I'm giving you my opinion of the available options on our roster, minus Bush. I've also left out my take on Marcus Thigpen as I don't really have an opinion of him, not enough data to form one.
How was Bush best utilized in New Orleans based on his skill set? Receiving out of the backfield. Hence why I said Miller is similar to Reggie, but with an extra 15lbs. So he obviously would be a great receiving option for our offense. If Lamar gets better in pass protection then he becomes a much needed weapon/solid option. And you mention Thigpen being fast and a good receiver, when Miller will be our go to guy, no doubt about it (as of now). I'll take Lamar over Marcus ALL DAY. Miller is an inch taller, and almost 30lbs heavier. He's 5 years younger, and a heck of a lot faster, plus he's got WAYYYYYYYY more upside.
Look at Lanes size, so he's obviously another solid option for blocking/protection. Also, I've provided video evidence as to his ability to fight/gain much needed yards. And the video also shows him receiving out of the backfield, so he's a double threat there.
The only thing Daniel Thomas has ever shown is that he runs way to high for his own good and has an affinity to coughing up the rock. That's why I think the guy is like Swiss cheese. Not to mention he was a converted QB in college who only played 2 years of RB (why I don't think he'll last much longer.)
I guess it depends on what you mean by a 3rd down back.... What's the situation???
What if its 3rd and >2?? You're going to go with a guy who can pound out some short yards.
If its 3rd and 5, are you going with a receiving threat out of the backfield?
Say its 3 & 10+ (might have 4 wide) and need a RB to stay into pass protect?
It's all about the situation my friend.
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Miller as primary back w/ Gray & Lane as short yardage specialists intrigues me.
I would not mind seeing Thigpen getting some reps as the change of pace back.
I would not mind seeing Thigpen getting some reps as the change of pace back.
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Neither Thomas nor Gray are good or proven enough to get that kind of role. And they'd be the committee with another unproven guy, Miller. There's just no experience in that group. I'd be more interested in a FA like Mike Goodson, Rashad Jennings, or even Isaac Redman. Though I am guessing we draft a guy (cmon Mike James!).
The guy who is in the huddle after second down is over?
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