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adamprez2003 said:
No you wouldnt. I'll tell you why. Personnell. We need to find out who is the most effective with our personnell. Frerotte played with the Viking personnell last year, which quite frankly is like comparing a divison 1 school to a divison 3 school. Why you would evaluate Gus based soley on what he does here is you want to see if he can do anything with "our" personnell. Up to now, I have seen nothing. Feeley last year somehow managed a 3 and 3 record once he got up to speed with our personnell. Add the fact that he will actually have a running game and its not too much of a stretch to believe he will improve upon last year whereas Gus hasn't shown any ability with our personnell as of now. Maybe the potential is there for him to improve but the time for potential to show up is running out

I would match our personnel this year up to Minnesota's any day. Our WR depth is better and we have better RB's.
 
FiN.in.RI said:
AJ and Gus are both equal, they both suck.

Let it go. He played well.. under no pressure and against 2nd/3rd stringers.

Some guys here just don't understand what it takes to be a QB in this league.

:yeahthat:


thought I'd get my point fully across with that smiley and slight modification to the quote, then I saw this one.........


:lastyr: ......ouch
 
jlfin said:
I would match our personnel this year up to Minnesota's any day. Our WR depth is better and we have better RB's.

Our personnel improved from last year. There's no doubt about that. We had one of the worst offenses ever last year. Although we have better running backs this year Im not sure about the wrs. They have Williamson, Robinson, Burleson and Taylor. Williamson could be a very special wr. Robinson and Burleson are better than Booker imo. i think boston could be good but i dont know how to grade him yet. as for our offensive line, which is where you win games imo, i dont think we even come close to theirs although with birk missing the season we may be getting closer
 
jlfin said:
I would match our personnel this year up to Minnesota's any day. Our WR depth is better and we have better RB's.

Our OL is no where near as good as Minny's. Culpepper can have coffee back there before he throws the ball, same with Patsy's OL, Brady has all day.
 
rickeyrunsover said:
He did? I thought AJ made a nice pass on 3rd and 21, and farmer made guy miss at teh three and hop into teh endzone. Yes Farmer made a good move to get in, but that soesnt change teh fact the pass was right on teh money under sign pressure. He also threw deep for a td but was out of bounds, no not a great pass, but wasnt behind him, nor under or overthrown. It was accurate but to teh wrong side, receiver didnt have to break stride. He also threw some nice 8 to 14 yd passes. You dont throw 40 yds every time. The bomb to McMike wasnt 30 in teh air, it was an approx 15 yd pass that McMike ran for another approx 15.

Guskateers, keep that faith.


it's funny you label me a guskateer. you think i'm just being skeptical of aj because i want gus to succeed? nice deflection. no, both of these guys are displaying awful quarterbacking skills for different reasons.
 
GRYPHONK said:
LOL That is quite interesting u say that.

Feeley made a perfect throw after Farmer made a good move.

Oh by the by, that play was an audible by Feeley and it was an audible designed to go to Farmer for that play.

So tell me again how that play was all Farmer, when he would have never had that attempt had Feeley not audibled to that play:lol:


being at the game, i'd have no idea if feeley audibled. farmer made a nice catch and move down the sideline to get into the endzone. when one throw is all you need to sustain a TD drive, give credit where it's due, the wr did a great job. aj can't play consistent drive the ball down the field football, and most of it is his evident refusal to throw downfield in the past 3 games.
 
fin-atic said:
Great point. he also does not have the pleasure of throwing to Chambers and McMichael, or handing the ball to Ricky.

AJ is getting a raw deal.
True, but he also didnt face the starting D either.
 
bakedmatt said:
it's funny you label me a guskateer. you think i'm just being skeptical of aj because i want gus to succeed? nice deflection. no, both of these guys are displaying awful quarterbacking skills for different reasons.


Absolutely.

I've figured it out though. The people who argue constantly for either QB either don't understand the NFL or they just don't understand the QB position and its idiosyncrasies. It's either one, the other or both.

It's cool how you can learn so much from one poster's knowledge of the game via their position in a QB debate.
 
FiN.in.RI said:
Absolutely.

I've figured it out though. The people who argue constantly for either QB either don't understand the NFL or they just don't understand the QB position and its idiosyncrasies. It's either one or the other.

It's cool how you can learn so much from one poster's knowledge of the game via their position in a QB debate.


i'm not about to say a guy isn't knowledgeable because he prefers one of these guys. all i mean to say is enough is enough, obviously one of these QB is displaying more resilience in practice or on the sideline which has lead to the starts. it's not as simple as looking at the stat sheet. the stubborness will have to end. but i assume it won't because last night i heard someone scream, "play sage!"
 
fin-atic said:
WTF?? He isn't name calling, he is just quoting the self imposed name of the Gus fans who came up with it here.

Are you just a little defensive?

Fact is AJ has outplayed Gus this preseason overall, and should be the starter. If Gus wasn't Linehan's hand picked boy, AJ would be starting.

Neither has shown brilliance, but AJ, as always, shows he can make the big plays, and he has a fire that Gus just does not have.

AJ has also shown he's not that good under pressure. I think it's that point alone that keeps Gus as the starter. "knowing' the offense only gets you so far. Saban is like every good coach, wants to minimize the mistakes, even if it comes at the expense of little less scoring. Plus, the 2nd string WR's don't seem to be dropping as many passes as the first string. I really thought the play was fairly equal last night. Given that, it doesn't matter who starts for me. I don't think AJ has a long term future.
 
IceStorm said:
The name calling and stereotyping seems quite childish.

Tis better the world believe you're a fool then to open your mouth and prove them right.
:confused:
 
finjim said:
true, he was playing against 2nd stringers, behind a second string line, throwing to second string WRs. Looking tiwce as good as Gus.

:shakeno:

um, sorry, i watched the game. what the hell are you talking about? Just stop already with the AJ circle jerk already, its getting really pathetic.
 
Ohio Fanatic said:
AJ has also shown he's not that good under pressure. I think it's that point alone that keeps Gus as the starter. "knowing' the offense only gets you so far. Saban is like every good coach, wants to minimize the mistakes, even if it comes at the expense of little less scoring. Plus, the 2nd string WR's don't seem to be dropping as many passes as the first string. I really thought the play was fairly equal last night. Given that, it doesn't matter who starts for me. I don't think AJ has a long term future.

I dont either. Its not that I dislike AJ or that he sucks or anything because, as Jawaorski says, he has the tools, except to me, he doesnt have it upstairs all the time which leads me to think inconsistancy. The thing I see with Frerrote over Feeley is that he just is cooler under pressure and he has been around the block. I do not think Feeley will be here in the future cus the Saban is not really all that thrilled about his attitude I think and the body language showed on TV when he was talking to him on the sideline. I think AJ knows it too. Its not a huge dis to Feeley, I think Saban is going to build this team with guys he can count on at all times and not just sometimes.
 
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