2 Players this article suggests we sign

[BC Phins4Life]

I would not mind either of these players who would both give us depth and competition if the year and term was good. I know both have been discussed lots and I have wavered over one but have always wanted the other and have also thought and been convinced to maybe save what cap space we have for next year. I think my final stance, may come from boredom at this point of the offseason, would be to sign both and keep adding to the roster before game 1 to give us more depth for the entire season....get both for a combined 10 million and I'd be ecstatic!

10 free agent signings that make sense after the 2022 NFL Draft | NFL Draft | PFF

Now that the 2022 NFL Draft has wrapped, NFL teams can return to the free-agent market to address positions and needs they weren't able to fix in the draft.

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[PHINSfan]

Tretter and Ingram would be welcomed additions for sure. Make it happen Grier!

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

I actually think the front office believes in Deiter. But depth at center could be an issue.

Clowney would be interesting as well.

 

[The Ghost]

I don't believe in Deiter.

I am down with both of these signings.

Next years draft appears to be very strong at center so Tretter can hold down the fort for two years.

Ingram is a no brainer. Can't have enough pass rush if your serious about contending. He's still got it and we still need more of it.

Ideally both players realize the situation presented to them and sign for below market value. The old Dolphins would've overpaid them already.

 

[mrhankey81701]

I think this articles correct about what we should do, and what the organization is probably looking to do right now. Add another veteran offensive linemen and a veteran edge. I'd be happy with both. I think you could also add Daryl Williams to that list. Bring him in to play the role of DJ FLuker this year. Veteran OT to compete against the young guys at RT.

 

[Marino2.0]

Honestly don’t understand why we haven’t signed Tretter yet. Center is the most glaring hole on our roster, we have the cap room, there are no other decent options, and he fits our scheme perfectly. Our OL would go from yet another season as a question mark to an almost-definitely above average unit with one signing.

 

[AdamD13]

Connor Williams has been practicing taking reps at center, so he may be plan B there.

Tretter wasn’t even practicing last year due to knee and ankle issues which seem to be chronic.

Do the coaches want to sign a player that wouldn’t be able to practice with an OL when the players are learning a new system and the only player that would start at the same position who played on Miami’s OL last year is Hunt?

Miami already taking a chance on a chronically injured player in Armstead who has never played a full season and averages less than 12 starts per season since becoming a starter.

I am more optimistic about Deiter at C than Jackson at RT.

Will Jackson be astute enough to know when it is his responsibility to slide off initial block to take on the LB? He didn’t seem very aware when teams ran stunts last year.

Sign another edge rusher, yes please.

 

[jimthefin]

I would be happy with adding both of those guys assuming the terms are reasonable.

I am also not confident in Dieter but the coaching staff appears to be. They may feel that with better coaching he will improve in their blocking scheme. having Williams to his left should help too.

Ingram in the role PFF describes could really help the Fins D.

I have always been an Akiem Hicks fan but he has really struggled with injuries and just may not be the same player anymore.

And I have to mention Clowney since we have talked about him for 3 straight off seasons.

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

Connor Williams has been practicing taking reps at center, so he may be plan B there.

Tretter wasn’t even practicing last year due to knee and ankle issues which seem to be chronic.

Do the coaches want to sign a player that wouldn’t be able to practice with an OL when the players are learning a new system and the only player that would start at the same position who played on Miami’s OL last year is Hunt?

Miami already taking a chance on a chronically injured player in Armstead who has never played a full season and averages less than 12 starts per season since becoming a starter.

I am more optimistic about Deiter at C than Jackson at RT.

Will Jackson be astute enough to know when it is his responsibility to slide off initial block to take on the LB? He didn’t seem very aware when teams ran stunts last year.

Sign another edge rusher, yes please.

That's a good point that hadn't occurred to me regarding Tretter. Learning a new system and being limited in practice could definitely be a problem.

Personally, I think Miami is done on the offensive line for this season. But definitely needs to add a pass rusher.

 

[Mach2]

Honestly don’t understand why we haven’t signed Tretter yet. Center is the most glaring hole on our roster, we have the cap room, there are no other decent options, and he fits our scheme perfectly. Our OL would go from yet another season as a question mark to an almost-definitely above average unit with one signing.

He doesn't fit the system at all. Where are you getting that idea?

 

[The Ghost]

He doesn't fit the system at all. Where are you getting that idea?

I'm guessing he took it from this:

"Tretter would serve as a significant upgrade after earning seven consecutive 80.0-plus PFF pass-blocking grades. He would also walk into a Mike McDaniel offense that is fairly similar to the one Tretter has operated in with Cleveland the last few seasons. Both offenses ran outside zone at an above-average clip with a fair amount of power and counter mixed in."

 

[Marino2.0]

He doesn't fit the system at all. Where are you getting that idea?

What are you talking about? The Browns run a wide zone blocking scheme that is as similar to what McDaniel will run as anywhere outside of San Francisco, and Tretter has been an A+ performer in it. There are few better scheme fits in the entirety of the NFL.

 

[Marino2.0]

I'm guessing he took it from this:

"Tretter would serve as a significant upgrade after earning seven consecutive 80.0-plus PFF pass-blocking grades. He would also walk into a Mike McDaniel offense that is fairly similar to the one Tretter has operated in with Cleveland the last few seasons. Both offenses ran outside zone at an above-average clip with a fair amount of power and counter mixed in."

I actually didn’t—I’d never even read that paragraph. But it’s one of at least a half dozen articles you can find drawing comparisons between Stefanski’s wide zone concepts and McDaniel’s.

 

[The Ghost]

I actually didn’t—I’d never even read that paragraph. But it’s one of at least a half dozen articles you can find drawing comparisons between Stefanski’s wide zone concepts and McDaniel’s.

I meant the concept, it's been mentioned a few times in relation to Tretter being a fit.

I can't say I watched much of the Browns the last few years, the only interest on that roster for me is Myles Garrett.

 

[Mach2]

I'm guessing he took it from this:

"Tretter would serve as a significant upgrade after earning seven consecutive 80.0-plus PFF pass-blocking grades. He would also walk into a Mike McDaniel offense that is fairly similar to the one Tretter has operated in with Cleveland the last few seasons. Both offenses ran outside zone at an above-average clip with a fair amount of power and counter mixed in."

I don't think they are in fact that similar. Cleveland does employ some zone schemes, but they are primarily an inside zone, power philosophy, with a lot of "down" blocks, and firing out to the second level.

A true wide zone scheme is one designed to get the back beyond the edge with blockers in front. This requires both Guards and Centers to do a lot of pulling in both directions.

No idea where that quote came from, but if you dig into the situation, I'm not seeing it as being accurate. Look at some film of 49ers Center assignment responsibilities, then look at what Cleveland was asking of Tretter. Could be why the the Browns going a different direction.