2014 Coaching Data Base

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I would love it to be Tony Dungy. I think he would be perfect for what this team needs. Unfortunately, I don't see it happening.

Instead...

Hire John Gruden as head coach. Give him full power. Hire his brother Jay as Assistant head coach/OC. Groom Jay to eventually replace his brother.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

I don't have a name but I would look for a young highly respected NFL assistant coach in the bracket of mid 30s to very early 40s. IMO, that's the area of highest upside, a whispered guy we take a chance on before others are ready to do so.

When I heard Mike Tomlin interviewed for the first time after the Steelers hired him, I was blown away. So solid. Natural leader.

It has to be someone with toughness in their style, and their approach to the game. That's why I have no idea why anyone would oppose David Shaw due to the Martin connection. Are you kidding? That irrelevant short term aspect is going to trump everything you get with the Stanford style of football, where every smart and resourceful route is taken?

The last thing we need is a cutesy offensive minded finesse coach. The problem with Joe Philbin is not only was he an older guy who probably lacked special qualities and high upside, but he departed Green Bay before they learned the lesson of balance. Green Bay finally conceded after last season that they needed a more frequent and physical running game to compliment Rodgers. They drafted Lacy and Franklin this year. Franklin got hurt but with Lacy and added emphasis they looked incredibly dangerous before Rodgers got hurt. Our coach is still operating under the old Packer mode, so he has no problem at all running the ball 11 times against Baltimore or 14 against Tampa Bay. It was exactly what I warned about when his name surfaced for our opening.

 

[mrbunglez]

I don't have a name but I would look for a young highly respected NFL assistant coach in the bracket of mid 30s to very early 40s. IMO, that's the area of highest upside, a whispered guy we take a chance on before others are ready to do so.

When I heard Mike Tomlin interviewed for the first time after the Steelers hired him, I was blown away. So solid. Natural leader.

It has to be someone with toughness in their style, and their approach to the game. That's why I have no idea why anyone would oppose David Shaw due to the Martin connection. Are you kidding? That irrelevant short term aspect is going to trump everything you get with the Stanford style of football, where every smart and resourceful route is taken?

The last thing we need is a cutesy offensive minded finesse coach. The problem with Joe Philbin is not only was he an older guy who probably lacked special qualities and high upside, but he departed Green Bay before they learned the lesson of balance. Green Bay finally conceded after last season that they needed a more frequent and physical running game to compliment Rodgers. They drafted Lacy and Franklin this year. Franklin got hurt but with Lacy and added emphasis they looked incredibly dangerous before Rodgers got hurt. Our coach is still operating under the old Packer mode, so he has no problem at all running the ball 11 times against Baltimore or 14 against Tampa Bay. It was exactly what I warned about when his name surfaced for our opening.

I personally wanted Mike McCoy over Philbin, just cause he was younger and would be better for a young QB.

As it stand right now I'm on the Jay Gruden train, or even his bro Jon.

Maybe even Josh McDaniels. I know he didn't do much in Denver, but I see him as a young talented coach.

 

[spiketex]

Marty Schottenheimer is only 70 years old. He last coached in 2006 (San Diego). If you have heard him answer the question definitively numerous times, he says absolutely no, his NFL coaching days have finished. And don't try to suggest that we could lure him and his brilliant son Kurt, as the Redskins did with the Shanahans.

 

[phinfan40353]

The reason young/first time head coaches do not succeed here is we have no support system to support a coach. There are no resources to teach and mentor a young coach. This organization has alienated everyone associated with it through bad management and isolationist thinking. There is no one in this organization that can use knowledge gained from Don Shula, Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells or anyone. No one that has seen it work and seen it fail. Therefore, the new guy's ideas go uncontested.

Folks, we may have a team, but we do not have an organization. We lack so many things. We do not have a structure in place that breeds success.

If you don't understand, maybe counting the sheer number of starting QBs since Marino can help shed light on the problem.

Stability breeds success.

 

[spiketex]

If it's a clean house, the GM would be appointed first and get involved in the selection of the Head Coach. Ross would not appoint a new Head Coach before a new GM.
I actually would not be surprised if Philbin stays.

 

[phinfan40353]

Here's a laugher, but if he's actually interested, fire Philbin and bring in Chad Pennington as the interim coach.

I mean at this point, we've tried everything else, why not? You got a guy with a unique intellect and tremendous leadership qualities who is still young and full of passion, sitting around on a horse ranch in Kentucky watching his kids go to piano recitals or whatever.

I'm all for outside the box thinking at this point. Something. Anything. I don't think I can stomach another week of this listless piece of crap football team sleepwalking through another 19-17 loss. Head coaching experience? Well, it certainly wasn't on the list of requirements for Joe Philbin.

We've had maybe 2 QBs since Marino that every player on his team would follow into a burning building. And Chad Pennington is the definition of inspiration and leadership.

He could lead Eskimo's into a volcano.


But you know, if we had an close relationship with our past players, we could use them to fill voids in emergencies like this.

"Coach, you're fired! Martha, get Don Shula on the phone! We've got a game in 5 days!" :)

 

[blitzhappy]

Tony Dungy or Jon Gruden, both built great teams from the ground up, and won with other teams showing they're ability to adapt to players strengths. Gruden an offensive guy won with a great defense, and Dungy a defensive guy won with a great offense!!!

 

[FearTheBeard]

God what a depressing thread for a depressing day. It is fair now though, and I know who I want. Kevin Sumlin. My biggest gripe, that unfounded or not when we picked Philbin was I didn't want him because he didn't have that "head coach look". I think this is a totally backwards way to look at things, but for whatever reason I want a guy who has that look and feel. Sumlin's got that gruff Mike Tomlin feel, and he holds people accountable. My biggest thing tho is I want a guy who can run an effective scheme. I want a X's and O's genius above all else so we can maximize our talent. Who that is...I don't know yet.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

We've had maybe 2 QBs since Marino that every player on his team would follow into a burning building. And Chad Pennington is the definition of inspiration and leadership.

He could lead Eskimo's into a volcano.


But you know, if we had an close relationship with our past players, we could use them to fill voids in emergencies like this.

"Coach, you're fired! Martha, get Don Shula on the phone! We've got a game in 5 days!" :)

I know it's probably laughable to suggest it, but I think this is a case where we have a unique opportunity to say 'screw it' and explore some different avenues. Give him a call, see what he has to say, bring him in for an interview.

I'd much rather see the team approach individuals of exceptional mental makeup who have both smarts and leadership characteristics instead of looking at resumes and picking the one that gets the most check marks. Isn't that how we wound up with Cam Cameron and Joe Philbin? Oh, these guys have run good offenses and helped develop top quarterbacks, so they must be great head coaching material. Well nope, neither one of 'em is an exceptional coach. What is the endorsement of Joe Philbin? "Solid man, solid coach."

I don't want solid, I want exceptional. I want rare talent. Find someone who can inspire men to reach their potential, who can teach them, and who can play the strategic game. I don't think Joe Philbin is that man. I'm sorry, but in such a results oriented business, I don't see how it's a bad thing to keep turning them over once you've seen enough to make a determination. In two years I've seen three of the absolute worst Dolphins performances I can remember: Tennessee, Buffalo, and now Tampa.

That's enough.

 

[laxcoach]

In two years I've seen three of the absolute worst Dolphins performances I can remember: Tennessee, Buffalo, and now Tampa.

I agree with your overall point, but that statement right there is bold. Jaguars 62-7? blow outs and shutouts to division rivals? Wes Welker doing that weird field goal kick? Year after year of losing to the Bills when it mattered? TOM OLIVADOTTI?

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

I agree with your overall point, but that statement right there is bold. Jaguars 62-7? blow outs and shutouts to division rivals? Wes Welker doing that weird field goal kick?

62-7? What is 62-7? There seems to be a fuzzy black spot in my memory... I can't....

And last night's game was a lot worse than the Welker field goal.

 

[phinking]

I could have lived with Zimmer. I wanted McCoy. Let's see what happens this weekend...Joe vs. McCoy.

My dream staff would be David Shaw (H.C.), Eric Mangini (D.C. who loves the 3-4 Defense), Gary Kubiak (O.C).

 

[laxcoach]

Eric Mangini (D.C. who loves the 3-4 Defense)

I don't care what the scheme is. Pick the scheme to match the players, instead of the other way around. And Mangina sucks.

 

[dolpns13]

This is what I want in a coach, I need 4 out of 5 of these

1. A known leader of men.
2. Known of coaching up QB's OR they have a plan to bring in a staff that can improve QB play.
3. Experience as HC.
4. 3-4 guy...I think the team has major needs in many areas of the team (DB's and Oline) and the current personnel fits best in a 3-4.
5. Will put together a physical and blue collar team.
Very Early Short List

Mike Holmgren- Older, but I think he is hungry not to go out like he did in Cleveland. Leader. Great developer of QB's.
Lovie Smith- Leader of men. Classy. All he did was win in Chicago. Tampa 2 guy, but would be a score for the organization.
Norv Turner- Great developer of QB's. Dedicated to running the football. Offensive personnel match his design. Missing many other traits.
Ken Whisenhunt- Underrated coach. Has been to a Super Bowl. Good leader. Has nice offensive design.
Ray Horton- No experience, but he is a great leader. Players will play hard for him. 3-4 guy. Deserves a chance to be a HC.
Brian Kelly- He has moxie and arrogant edge to him. He has been in a pressure spot before. I am not sure I would go the college way. However, he is innovative and brings confidence to the sideline.

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No doubt. The GM comes first and goes from there.

Norv Turner??? Wiesenhunt??? Seriously! The rest, sure, but these two are horrible HC's. Also add Gruden to your list.