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Did anyone notice the 1st line in the Weekness section on AJ CANN?




Strictly a power scheme player and doesn't have the skills for a zbs. Why do would we want him exactly?

That right there is all you need to know about him. What scheme do we run?

That's right kids....... ZBS!! Hopefully folks learned from Hickey last year picking James over all the big, popular names. He was the only OT who had the zbs skills!!

When thinking about a player on the o-line for your team, fans need to first look at those who have the skills to play in your teams scheme. Fans seem to miss that.

Guys like Scherff and Cann are not ZBS players. But so many fin fans want them, especially Scherff. Big mistake for us as he has bad hand placement and can't pass block. You want that for Tanny at #14? We already have guys that can't pass block, don't need another.

Stop looking at these OT & OG players projected draft spots. Look to see if they are suited for power scheme, like Cann and Scherff and start looking at zbs skill guards like Kuondjio, Douglas from az state and Harrison from T-a&m. One of those guys will be drafted by miami. Not at 14, but later rounds. A good thing!!

Douglas is a perfect zbs player. We use the old broncos scheme that depended on lighter, faster athletic players. Douglas is a poster child for the scheme. Can pass pro and run block and get into the second level quick!! Great feet and hand placement. Strong body. Big motor!!

Scheme!!! Scheme!!!

That's a good catch. What guards do fit our scheme? Also read where Tre Jackson and Tomlinson are power guys and not our scheme fit. Your two listed plus these two take away 4 good players.
 
Did anyone notice the 1st line in the Weekness section on AJ CANN?




Strictly a power scheme player and doesn't have the skills for a zbs. Why do would we want him exactly?

That right there is all you need to know about him. What scheme do we run?

That's right kids....... ZBS!! Hopefully folks learned from Hickey last year picking James over all the big, popular names. He was the only OT who had the zbs skills!!

When thinking about a player on the o-line for your team, fans need to first look at those who have the skills to play in your teams scheme. Fans seem to miss that.

Guys like Scherff and Cann are not ZBS players. But so many fin fans want them, especially Scherff. Big mistake for us as he has bad hand placement and can't pass block. You want that for Tanny at #14? We already have guys that can't pass block, don't need another.

Stop looking at these OT & OG players projected draft spots. Look to see if they are suited for power scheme, like Cann and Scherff and start looking at zbs skill guards like Kuondjio, Douglas from az state and Harrison from T-a&m. One of those guys will be drafted by miami. Not at 14, but later rounds. A good thing!!

Douglas is a perfect zbs player. We use the old broncos scheme that depended on lighter, faster athletic players. Douglas is a poster child for the scheme. Can pass pro and run block and get into the second level quick!! Great feet and hand placement. Strong body. Big motor!!

Scheme!!! Scheme!!!
I am with on Douglas. I am very impressed by his movement. He may not be the strongest, but he can pull and get to the 2nd level.
 
SS Erick Dargan, Oregon 5-11 211lbs.

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STRENGTHS: Solidly-built frame with natural thickness and torque. Good play speed and range with controlled movements and ankle flection to sink-and-burst. Physical tackler with strong hands/wrists to finish tackles and rip the ball out (seven career forced fumbles). Powerful hips and drives through his target. Fills run lanes with reckless abandon, attacking the line of scrimmage. Active shedding blocks, using his hands and body strength to squirm off bodies with his aggressive demeanor.
Good footwork in press to turn and run with receivers downfield. Tracks the ball well with the ballskills to knock down passes with his back to the quarterback. Highly active and was asked to cover a large area. Top competitor NFL preparation skills, passion and mental toughness. Lauded by his coaches for being a top-effort guy, whether as a starter or on the scout team. Tied for sixth all-time in Oregon history with 13 career interceptions, despite only 17 starts.
WEAKNESSES: Shorter than ideal with average-at-best arm length. Lacks the make-up speed to recover after a receiver gains a step, struggling to flip his hips and transition to hold up in tight man coverage. Doesn?t show the route anticipation to consistently drive on plays in front of him. Too conservative and plays not to get beat, conceding too much underneath. Needs to improve his peripheral vision as a run defender to feel blockers and work around them in space. Throws his body around, but needs to be more technically sound to wrap and finish. Needs to better anticipate and time up his hits. Several late hit penalties on his resume. Only one year as a full-time starter (17 career starts). Suspended for two games in Nov. 2013 for an unspecified violation of team rules.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737215/erick-dargan
 
Guys like Scherff and Cann are not ZBS players.

You have posted on multiple threads that Scherff is not a ZBS player, which is an absurd statement.

Brandon Scherff is an athletic OT/OG who has played his entire college football career in a zone blocking scheme.

While playing on a zone blocking team, he won the Outland Trophy as the country's best lineman.

Brandon Scherff
Team: Iowa Hawkeyes

The Iowa prospect could excel in Shanahan's newly installed zone-blocking scheme, due to the fact that he's already familiar with it from Iowa's offense. Scherff is well-versed on various blocking schemes, including zone concepts already.

http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/cfb/131866/brandon-scherff

The University of Iowa under head coach Kirk Ferentz, a former NFL offensive line coach, utilizes zone blocking and the inside/outside stretch play as the basis for their offense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_blocking
 
QB Dylan Thompson, South Carolina 6-3 218lbs.

[video=youtube;sxeP8gLQTqA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxeP8gLQTqA[/video]

Strengths
Adequate height with good bulk on his frame. Recognizes when to take a deep shot and is decisive in doing so. Puts some pepper on his throws. Able to throw the deep out to the field side.
Weaknesses
Footwork is an absolute mess. Has issues getting feet set on many throws and compounds issue by short-arming throw. Inaccurate, with tendency to sail the ball or throw behind receiver. Below average leading receivers to give them a chance to pick up yards after catch.
Draft Projection
Priority free agent
Bottom Line
One-year starter in the SEC with adequate size. Poor footwork and substantial accuracy and ball placement issues have him tabbed as a draft reject on several draft boards, according to scouts.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/dylan-thompson?id=2552571
 
WR Darren Waller, Georgia Tech 6-6 238lbs.

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Strengths
Yet another Georgia Tech receiver with great length. Plays to his height. Gathers himself and boxes out defenders on fades and jump balls. Uses long arms and gets on his ladder to sky over cornerbacks and high point throws. Effortless strider with untapped vertical speed to go yard. Plus body control. Usually gets two feet in bounds on sideline throws. Plucks the ball with extended hands. Doesn't fear hits from safeties. Almost impossible to guard on back-shoulder throws. Confident and competitive when the ball is in the air.
Weaknesses
Will lose speed when turning to locate ball. Shield blocker in run game, giving very modest effort by Georgia Tech standards. Raw route runner with limited exposure to complex routes. Rounds off in-breaking and out routes. Needs improved understanding of leverage and how to create separation with it. Allows smaller cornerbacks to crowd him. Forced just two pass-interference calls over the last two seasons. Limited production and targets over career.
Draft Projection
Round 3 or 4
NFL Comparison
Brian Quick
Bottom Line
Late bloomer who is faster than quick and has coveted size-speed combination. Waller isn't just a tall receiver, he has legitimate hands and body control and can impose his size on mismatched cornerbacks. Waller has a low floor, but with a little more competitive fire and technique work, he could become a legitimate touchdown maker in the league
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/darren-waller?id=2552408
 
WR Jamison Crowder, Duke 5-8 185lbs.

[video=youtube;vEwnotajb6o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEwnotajb6o[/video]

Strengths
Great instant acceleration. Will burst out of cuts and gain separation when working underneath. Good route-runner who consistently gets on top of defenders quicker than they expect. Will sink hips and snap his route off abruptly. Has experience as both outside and slot wide receiver. Will give effort as a blocker. Has return experience in special teams.
Weaknesses
Lacks desired NFL size. Below-average length and hands and offers a small target radius for quarterbacks. Not an authoritative runner after the catch. Can be redirected in his routes by physical cornerbacks. High number of targets came from bubble screens and quick hitters. Has focus drops.
Draft Projection
Round 5
NFL Comparison
Eddie Royal
Bottom Line
Smallish slot wide receiver who will have to win with his quickness and route proficiency. Features point-guard quickness and generally solid hands. Has proven his willingness to compete all over the field despite his lack of size.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/jamison-crowder?id=2552415
 
RB Michael Dyer, Louisville 5-8 218lbs.

[video=youtube;7CIGymGxZr4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CIGymGxZr4[/video]

Major red flags: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Dyer

STRENGTHS: Short, squatty frame with thick thighs and a big bubble which make him more powerful than his height would indicate. Very good forward lean and keeps his legs chugging through contact to generate extra yards. Good quickness to and through the hole. Darts through tight spaces and possesses the vision and agility to break into the open. Quick accelerator, getting to top speed very quickly and ruining pursuit angles. Good lateral agility and balance to elude, zig-zagging his way through traffic. Natural running ability has stood out regardless of where (and against who) he's played, including during a 134-yard, three touchdown performance in 2014 against then undefeated Florida State...
WEAKNESSES: Character red-flags after repeated suspensions led to his transferring three times. Older prospect who turns 25 in October. Protected in explosive spread offenses that catered to his agility and speed. Offers little in terms of the passing game, catching just eight passes in four seasons and showing little in terms of technique on blitz pickup.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737123/michael-dyer
 
TE Casey Pierce, Kent St. 6-4 242lbs.

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Strengths
Displays tenacity as a pass protector with a nice, wide base and desired hand placement. Handled himself pretty well against Ohio State defensive end Joey Bosa. True move tight end with ability to block and catch from multiple spots on field. Reliable, soft hands and can catch contested throws.
Weaknesses
Play speed looks average on tape. Takes a while to get to top speed and is almost completely upright at times when getting into his breaks. Carries pad level high on wham blocks across formation and doesn't hit with force. Struggles to consistently hit targets in space and sustain in space.
Draft Projection
Round 7 or priority free agent
NFL Comparison
Zach Sudfeld
Bottom Line
Can line up in a variety of spots. Offers formation versatility and a willingness to do the dirty work as a blocker. He won't do much on the ground after the catch, but he has reliable hands and the competitive temperament to give himself a legitimate shot of making a roster, likely for a West Coast offense.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/casey-pierce?id=2552560
 
If for some odd reason we wait until late in this draft to pick a WR Crowder wouldn't be a horrible pick. He should change his last name to "Separation", and he's a mature kid who would contribute immediately. I think he's a good fit for our offense, but we really need an outside WR with size more, and I think Crowders height deficiency limits his ceiling. Good football player though.
 
C Nick Easton, Harvard 6-3 300lbs.

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Strengths
Plays with good body control and balance. Maintains desired posture through pass rep with wide base and sustained, mirrored movement. Takes good angles in space. Looks for work in pass pro and will bury a helmet into ribs of defensive tackles. Plays with poise and confidence and responds well to blitz.
Weaknesses
Squatty frame. Lacks length and will get stuck reaching for air when longer nose tackles get into him. Despite 29 bench reps at pro day, won't generate movement when asked to drive block.
Draft Projection
Undrafted
Bottom Line
Had solid pro day measurements and tested as an athletic center. Easton plays with intelligence and composure and is technically sound, but is a center­ only and might be relegated to looks from zone-scheme teams.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/nick-easton?id=2553277
 
OG Mitch Morse, Missouri 6-5 305lbs.

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Mitch Morse--Missouri’s left tackle is not going to be drafted as highly as predecessor Justin Britt, who wound up starting at right tackle as a 2nd-round rookie for Seattle. He could take a similar NFL path, however.
Morse is not a left tackle in the NFL. He might not even be a right tackle, as he lacks the length and anchor strength to handle the increased size and speed of premium NFL pass rushers. Fortunately, Morse played right tackle and even center during his time in Columbia, and that versatility gives him a strong chance to contribute at the next level.
Light on his feet, Morse moves quite well for a 6’5”, 305-pound human. He has a quick punch and good coordination between his feet, hips and shoulders. Much of his edge responsibility for the Tigers consisted of quick-setting and forcing the rusher wide around the edge, and he does that well. But when guys bulled into him, Morse struggled because he doesn’t use his lower body well. It’s not that he lacks it, but rather the function of playing outside negated it for him. Many believe playing inside and not having to focus so much on opposing speed and steering the action wide will help Morse, and I raise my hand as part of that group.
As such, I rate Morse higher at guard than tackle. Ideally, I like him as the sixth lineman on a team, a versatile substitute capable of playing any spot as needed. He could start at right tackle or left guard for extended stretches, and he moves well enough he can certainly contribute on special teams. That’s worth a third-round pick to me, though I suspect Morse will wait another day to hear his name called on draft weekend.
Current projection: 5th round
http://football.realgm.com/analysis/2600/Draft-Prospecting-Missouri-Tigers
 
OT Corey Robinson, South Carolina 6-7 324lbs.

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Strengths
Has a massive frame and very long arms. Uses length to redirect pass rushers beyond quarterback when beaten by speed. Moves better than expected for a man his size. Recognizes twists and collects them. Uses his size to his advantage when blocking for power running game. Cut back on penalties and quarterback pressures allowed as he continued to show improvement at the position. Will quick-set speed rushers to take away their burst advantage.
Weaknesses
Gallops in pass protection, causing his base to narrow. Doesn't always stay busy from snap to snap. Shows very little strength in his redirect on inside moves. Will take a false step forward with his left foot at times. Hands are rarely in a ready position to shoot punch in pass protection. Has average body coordination and plays on skates. Is forced to open up early against speed rushers and panics to recover.
Draft Projection
Round 7 or priority free agent
NFL Comparison
John Jerry
Bottom Line
Hulking tackle, but needs to do more with it. Doesn't have the kick-slide to consistently get out to meet speed off the edge, and when faced with inside moves, he struggles to move feet and secure the gap. Foot quickness could benefit if he trimmed down, but a move inside could be considered if teams feel like he can play with enough bend.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/corey-robinson?id=2552356
 
DT Rakeem Nunez-Roches, Southern Mississippi 6-2 307lbs.

[video=youtube;NUsrIQ6p7G4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUsrIQ6p7G4[/video]

Strengths
Fires out of starting blocks at the snap. Sniff direction of play and looks for gaps to shoot. Above average agility and balance for position. Plays on his feet and uses low center of gravity and leg drive to maintain his leverage against single blocks. Difficult to control him off snap. Able to call on additional power and improve position once engaged. As pass rusher, gets to the corner and keeps grinding to constrict pocket. Plays hard and pursues hard. Gives good effort each snap out despite playing for a struggling team. Blocked two kicks in college.
Weaknesses
Undersized and short-limbed. Loses sight of ball during penetration at times. Hard charger who gets going in one direction and struggles to right the ship and recover when play is behind him. Uses spin move to disengage, but it is usually too late. Missing burst needed to close out and tackle down the line. Gets fooled by play-action until it is too late. Relies on shoulder too often and needs to improve hands. Down blocks and double teams can crater him. Inconsistent body lean as pass rusher.
NFL Comparison
Caraun Reid
Bottom Line
Fireplug with a good motor and an ability to find gaps and drive upfield through them. He's missing the size and brute strength necessary to consistently handle himself in phone booth battle so he will have to play in a one-gap, upfield defense. He has the look of a penetrating nose who will have to start his career as a backup.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/rakeem-nunez-roches?id=2552674
 
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