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Good evening brothers. I know it takes a couple of years to really grade and define this weekends draft. Here is one that I found and there are others out there.

Day 3: Miami had some reaches on Day 2 but got incredible value on Day 3 with Curtis Weaver, who was the 26th-best prospect on the PFF Big Board and EDGE3. Weaver had great production in the past two years, posting pass-rushing grades above 92.0 in each and combining to form a win rate that was three percentage points higher than any edge rusher. Weaver may lack burst, but his elite power and bend make up for that. The Dolphins got a first-round talent in the fifth round.

Draft Grade: A-
 
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On Weaver, PFF liked him, Slimm liked him, and even the analytics of FO liked him:

Curtis Weaver is SackSEER's pick for the most underrated edge rusher in this year's draft. Indeed, even taking into account -- as SackSEER does -- that K'Lavon Chaisson will likely be a first-round pick and that Weaver will likely only be a third-round pick, SackSEER still thinks the two have very similar chances of NFL success.

SackSEER likes Weaver's production. Weaver recorded an eye-popping 34.0 sacks in just three seasons with the Broncos. Weaver also intercepted two passes and knocked down six others, giving him an above-average passes defensed rate.

Weaver's weakness is his combine performance. Weaver did not run the 40-yard dash, but he did perform the jumps, recording a 32.5-inch vertical leap and a 9-foot-8 broad jump. Those are slightly below average "explosion" numbers for a drafted edge rusher. However, Weaver did make up for his mediocre explosion by recording a 7.00-second three-cone time, which is better than average.

Certainly, a player who puts up big numbers at a Division II FCS school should not be taken as seriously as a player who puts up the same numbers at Florida State, but the difference between a program like Boise State and a program like Clemson has not been significant historically. NFL decision-makers have generally not spent high picks on edge rushers from smaller programs unless they have outstanding workouts. This is often a mistake, because there are plenty of examples of highly productive players from small programs who excelled in the NFL despite average workouts, such as Robert Mathis and Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila.

Aside from Weaver, there are not many other intriguing edge rusher prospects in the third round or later. Accordingly, if Weaver is on the board in the third round, a smart team in need of a stronger pass rush should strongly consider him.
 

Good evening brothers. I know it takes a couple of years to really grade and define this weekends draft. Here is one that I found and there others out there.

Day 3: Miami had some reaches on Day 2 but got incredible value on Day 3 with Curtis Weaver, who was the 26th-best prospect on the PFF Big Board and EDGE3. Weaver had great production in the past two years, posting pass-rushing grades above 92.0 in each and combining to form a win rate that was three percentage points higher than any edge rusher. Weaver may lack burst, but his elite power and bend make up for that. The Dolphins got a first-round talent in the fifth round.

Draft Grade: A-

Reaches on day 2 was an understatement, I love the Weaver pick for a 5th rounder that's crazy value.
 
Why did he last so long.
 
It's weird how everything in the first half of the draft was deemed a reach, but the third day was filled with steals.

Seems like almost every pick has some high ceiling risk attached. I like it, enough chicken salad out of chicken ****, I don't even like chicken salad.
 
The biggest reach for me on day two, and what really soured me on what they did, was the Raekwon Davis pick. I really wanted this draft to be focused on offense, and I really liked the Brandon Jones pick, but I would of liked it even better if Miami hadn't already used one of their second round picks on a defense player, and a terrible defensive player to boot. Davis should not have even been selected until at least the fourth round. The Davis pick made me sick.
 
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SI gave us a B-

MIAMI DOLPHINS
1 (5). Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama
1 (18). Austin Jackson, T, USC
1 (30). Noah Igbinoghene, CB, Auburn
2 (39). Robert Hunt, T, Louisiana
2 (56). Raekwon Davis, DT, Alabama
3 (70). Brandon Jones, S, Texas
4 (111). Solomon Kindley, G, Georgia
5 (154). Jason Strowbridge, DE, North Carolina
5 (164). Curtis Weaver, DE, Boise State
6 (185). Blake Ferguson, C, LSU
7 (246). Malcolm Perry, WR, Navy

With four of this draft’s first 39 picks, this was a productive Step 2 in Miami’s multi-year rebuilding process. Step 1 was cleaning house and introducing a new coaching staff in 2019. Step 3 will be repeating Step 2, as the Dolphins have two first-rounders and two second-rounders in 2021.

At pick No. 5, the Tua Tagovailoa represents a perfect outcome for Stephen Ross’s team. 2019’s “Tanking for Tua” slogan proved false, but only because the Dolphins played so much better in the second half of the season and fell in the draft order. Tagovailoa’s late-season hip injury may have been a blessing in disguise, as none of the other QB-needy teams traded up to get him.

That hip is reportedly healed, and there is time for it to get even stronger as the Dolphins don’t need Tagovailoa to play right away. But it’d be a surprise if he’s not the starter come mid-November. The Dolphins are still in the early phases of a massive rebuild, and stopgap veteran Ryan Fitzpatrick can be counted on for at least a half-dozen of the type of head-scratching interceptions that get a quarterback benched.

Tagovailoa’s draft status also speaks to the expanding definition of an NFL quarterback. Ten years ago, a small-statured, good-but-not-great-armed QB would have never gone fifth overall. But football IQ, athleticism and intangibles have become even more valued at the position. Still, for Tagovailoa to succeed, the Dolphins must support him with a strong cast and crisply defined system. He projects to the NFL as more of a timing and rhythm passer than a Russell Wilson-style playmaker.

The Austin Jackson selection made sense, too. The Dolphins had just drafted a quarterback who must be protected. They had an extremely limited offensive line in 2019, and signing free agent left guard Ereck Flowers alone was not enough to change things in 2020. So, they used their next first-round pick on a left tackle. Jackson likely wasn’t atop their offensive tackle board (there were rumors that they were trying to trade for the No. 3 overall pick), but he is a long-bodied, flexible athlete who showed competitiveness at USC.

They also found a right tackle shortly after Jackson—another wise move. Miami entered this draft with glaring needs at both tackle spots, considering that young veterans Julie’n Davenport and Jesse Davis are both better suited for utility backup roles. Some had suggested Robert Hunt, who is a compact 6'5", 323 with just 33.5-inch arm, might play guard in the NFL. But given that Ereck Flowers was just signed to a surprisingly expensive contract to play left guard, and Michael Deiter was drafted in the third round last year to play right guard, the plan at this point is likely for Hunt to be a right tackle.

Defensively, it was about finding players who fit head coach Brian Flores’s Patriots-style scheme. With just two years of cornerback experience, converted wide receiver Noah Igbinoghene is a gifted but raw prospect. The athleticism and competitiveness he showed at Auburn is mandatory in the man-to-man-intensive scheme that Miami is aggressively investing in. With pricey ex-Cowboy Byron Jones and pricey incumbent Xavien Howard on the roster, it’s possible the Dolphins plan on grooming Igbinoghene for a role in the slot. At 5' 10", 198 he has the measurables to play inside or outside. More likely, though, is the Dolphins just pounced on raw talent that they’d like to groom and figure they’ll decide on a long-term role later in the process.

Joining Igbinoghene in the secondary is the third-rounder Brandon Jones. Incumbents safeties. Adrian Colbert and Steven Parker were not bad down the stretch last season, but neither is a surefire starter (though Parker is young and worth monitoring). Expect Jones to get a long look in centerfield first and foremost.

Up front, Raekwon Davis is a somewhat less-heralded prospect, but he has potentially explosive trench-fighting traits and is built for the gritty, two-gap plugging tactics that Miami’s scheme often calls for on first and second down. Before the draft, the only real scheme fits in this sense on Miami’s roster were last year’s first-rounder Christian Wilkins and space-clogging nose tackle Davon Godchaux.

Grade: B-

 
NFL A-

Miami Dolphins


Draft picks: Alabama QB Tua Tagovailoa (No. 5 overall), USC OT Austin Jackson (No. 18), Auburn CB Noah Igbinoghene (No. 30), Louisiana OT Robert Hunt (No. 39), Alabama DT Raekwon Davis(No. 56), Texas S Brandon Jones (No. 70), Georgia OG Solomon Kindley (No. 111), North Carolina DE Jason Strowbridge (No. 154), Boise State DE Curtis Weaver (No. 164), LSU LS Blake Ferguson (No. 185), Navy RB Malcolm Perry (No. 246)
Day 1 grade: A
Day 2 grade: B
Day 3 grade: B
Overall grade: A-
Draft analysis: Miami needed a franchise quarterback and offensive line help coming into the draft -- and they got both within the first 18 picks on Day 1. Add in a starting safety and run-stopper, and the Dolphins acquitted themselves well over the first three rounds.

Kindley is power incarnate but also has some mobility for his size (6-6, 337 pounds) -- not unlike the guard they signed to a big free agent deal, Ereck Flowers. Strowbridge strengthens the outside of the defensive line. Trading a fifth-round pick for 49ers running back Matt Breida may turn out to be a really good move if the tough runner can stay healthy. Perry has the work ethic and athleticism to succeed in the backfield, as well. Weaver has always had the potential to be one of the best edge rushers in this draft class -- if he takes care of business, watch him power past tackles to consistently get after quarterbacks.

 
The biggest reach for me on day two, and what really soured me on what they did, was the Raekwon Davis pick. I really wanted this draft to be focused on offense, and I really liked the Brandon jones pick, but I would of liked it even better if Miami hadn't already used one of their second round picks on a defense player, and a terrible defensive player to boot. Davis should not have even been selected until at least the fourth round. The Davis pick made me sick.

Ya that Davis pick really soured me. I know it’s been reported that Flo absolutely loves him but I’m in the camp of you don’t draft DT’s high unless they posses an elite trait. We made that mistake 2 years in a row. The first 4 rounds were filled with reaches. Jackson and Igbinoghene were both slight reaches. I like the players but I thought each was taken at least a pick too early value wise. Jones is a good kid and a film buff but he seems to lack football instincts on the field and to me was a 4th or 5th rounder. There were 3 other guards and 2 tackles I preferred over Solomon and I’m worried about his athleticism. Maulers haven’t necessarily worked out for us in the past. Round 5, though, was a thing of beauty and really turned this draft around for me. We got great value in Strowbridge who is a Swiss Army knife for the d line and Weaver has to be the steal of the draft. Getting Brieda for a 5th was genius as he’d be the 5 best RB in this class if he was in the draft.

That Davis pick though was the worst for me. Exchange Davis for a wr like Mims or a better prospect at safety like Chinn or Aston Davis or o line like Cushenberry, Cleveland, or Damien Lewis and I’d easily give this draft an A
 
Ya that Davis pick really soured me. I know it’s been reported that Flo absolutely loves him but I’m in the camp of you don’t draft DT’s high unless they posses an elite trait. We made that mistake 2 years in a row. The first 4 rounds were filled with reaches. Jackson and Igbinoghene were both slight reaches. I like the players but I thought each was taken at least a pick too early value wise. Jones is a good kid and a film buff but he seems to lack football instincts on the field and to me was a 4th or 5th rounder. There were 3 other guards and 2 tackles I preferred over Solomon and I’m worried about his athleticism. Maulers haven’t necessarily worked out for us in the past. Round 5, though, was a thing of beauty and really turned this draft around for me. We got great value in Strowbridge who is a Swiss Army knife for the d line and Weaver has to be the steal of the draft. Getting Brieda for a 5th was genius as he’d be the 5 best RB in this class if he was in the draft.

That Davis pick though was the worst for me. Exchange Davis for a wr like Mims or a better prospect at safety like Chinn or Aston Davis or o line like Cushenberry, Cleveland, or Damien Lewis and I’d easily give this draft an A
I do not really have that much of a problem with any of the players that Miami actually picked except for Davis. I don't really subscribe to player so and so was a reach. It really doesn't matter all that much where a player was selected, within reason, if they can play. I really only get critical about philosophical issues about how to build a roster. I was very critical after day two, mostly because of how much Miami had invested premium draft assets on the defensive side of the ball at that point and how much I hated the selection of Davis because of his position he played and because I didn't like him as a prospect to begin with. When the dust had settled at the end of it all, I'm obviously happy that Miami got the best QB in the draft without even having to move up to do so, and that Miami has attempted to address the offensive line, and much of the draft was saved for me by that shrewd trade they made for Matt Breida. There was no running back that they could have selected at that point of the draft that was going to contribute and be as productive as that guy.
 
Raekwon Davis may end up being our best player out of this draft. I dont understand all of the hate for him but I will take it with a grain of salt since this board hated Lamar Jackaon coming out of college too.
 
Lots of great stuff in this article. Solid analysis. Thanks for posting it @Fin Fan in Cali .

PFF notes many of the same things I had previously noted (and people seemed to hate to hear) but PFF papers it all over with a good grade because of Tua. Just a few excerpts about the other players, which all seem to align with my earlier general assessment, followed by my comments in orange:

"Austin Jackson was 94th on the PFF Big Board and was taken 18th overall. This was one of the biggest reaches we have seen in the first round of the draft. " - I like the kid's potential, but he's not ready for prime time. We missed out on trading up for one of the big four OT's, so this reach was expected, but it also suggests we are going to sit Tua for the 2020 season.

"Noah Igbinoghene in Round 1 was another reach on the Dolphins’ part. " - Love that we traded back and took a CB here, and he has athletic skills and mental make-up, but he's developmental at this point.

"Continuing on the trend of their two first-round picks, Day 2 was full of reaches once again for the Miami Dolphins. All three of their picks on Day 2 were picked over 50 spots ahead of their rank on the PFF Big Board. " - Agreed ... Day 2 was a disaster from my perspective.

"Hunt — he slotted in at 89th on our board — was his out-of-control play style and the fact that he was barely tested in pass protection. And he did this all against relatively weak competition. " - Agree completely. Used his superior size to dominate small unathletic men and looked shaky doing it.

"Raekwon Davis, he was just 115th on the PFF Big Board. ... Run-stuffers along the interior don’t generate enough value to be taken this early on Day 2, " - Agree wholeheartedly. We could have gotten a similar player in round 6 or 7 when we were drafting long snappers, so why waste this pick?

"The biggest reach of them all, though, was taking Brandon Jones 70th overall — he was just 182nd on the PFF Big Board." - Not a difference maker, and overdrafted, but I have higher hopes for Jones than PFF. He is physical, tackles, and is a grinder. He can be a servicable jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none type safety, which is OK, just drafted too early.

"Miami had some reaches on Day 2 but got incredible value on Day 3 with Curtis Weaver, who was the 26th-best prospect on the PFF Big Board and EDGE3." - I'm not sure what to expect out of Curtis Weaver. - I don't think he's the prospect PFF does, and he's lacksidaisical sometimes, and he is poor setting the edge, which is a huge flaw, but in Day 3 you're looking for traits, anything really to give a team hope, and Weaver's production and pass rush finesse are simply too great to ignore. He was worth taking a flyer on at this point. Good value pick, with some potential. Sometimes good players get overlooked. It's worth spending a Day 3 pick on Weaver to find out.
 
Lots of great stuff in this article. Solid analysis. Thanks for posting it @Fin Fan in Cali .

PFF notes many of the same things I had previously noted (and people seemed to hate to hear) but PFF papers it all over with a good grade because of Tua. Just a few excerpts about the other players, which all seem to align with my earlier general assessment, followed by my comments in orange:

"Austin Jackson was 94th on the PFF Big Board and was taken 18th overall. This was one of the biggest reaches we have seen in the first round of the draft. " - I like the kid's potential, but he's not ready for prime time. We missed out on trading up for one of the big four OT's, so this reach was expected, but it also suggests we are going to sit Tua for the 2020 season.

"Noah Igbinoghene in Round 1 was another reach on the Dolphins’ part. " - Love that we traded back and took a CB here, and he has athletic skills and mental make-up, but he's developmental at this point.

"Continuing on the trend of their two first-round picks, Day 2 was full of reaches once again for the Miami Dolphins. All three of their picks on Day 2 were picked over 50 spots ahead of their rank on the PFF Big Board. " - Agreed ... Day 2 was a disaster from my perspective.

"Hunt — he slotted in at 89th on our board — was his out-of-control play style and the fact that he was barely tested in pass protection. And he did this all against relatively weak competition. " - Agree completely. Used his superior size to dominate small unathletic men and looked shaky doing it.

"Raekwon Davis, he was just 115th on the PFF Big Board. ... Run-stuffers along the interior don’t generate enough value to be taken this early on Day 2, " - Agree wholeheartedly. We could have gotten a similar player in round 6 or 7 when we were drafting long snappers, so why waste this pick?

"The biggest reach of them all, though, was taking Brandon Jones 70th overall — he was just 182nd on the PFF Big Board." - Not a difference maker, and overdrafted, but I have higher hopes for Jones than PFF. He is physical, tackles, and is a grinder. He can be a servicable jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none type safety, which is OK, just drafted too early.

"Miami had some reaches on Day 2 but got incredible value on Day 3 with Curtis Weaver, who was the 26th-best prospect on the PFF Big Board and EDGE3." - I'm not sure what to expect out of Curtis Weaver. - I don't think he's the prospect PFF does, and he's lacksidaisical sometimes, and he is poor setting the edge, which is a huge flaw, but in Day 3 you're looking for traits, anything really to give a team hope, and Weaver's production and pass rush finesse are simply too great to ignore. He was worth taking a flyer on at this point. Good value pick, with some potential. Sometimes good players get overlooked. It's worth spending a Day 3 pick on Weaver to find out.
Take a look at how Ted Slimm feels about Jackson, and especially Igbinoghene and Jones. I trust his evaluations a hell of a lot more than PFF. Slimm really liked Jones and had him projected almost exactly where Miami selected him. He had him rated 74th and Miami took him at 70. Slimm loved Igbinoghene. He had him rated as the 23rd rated player in the whole draft and the third ranked corner. In the discussion section Slimm said he thought about ranking him as the second best corner in the draft just behind Okudah. That's how much he loved his talent. PFF seems to grade prospects purely on production in college and not on how their talent projects to their position and how they project to the next level. I'm pretty sure that PFF had Baker Mayfield as one of the highest rated QB they ever evaluated at the position. Anyone with a brain in their head could see that that shouldn't have been the case. Davis was the only obvious "reach" in my opinion. I really didn't care for him as a player and as a value relative to the role he will play on the defensive line.
 
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