2021 Dolphins Disaster is __% coaching and __% personnel decisions

[pjzabo]

Look Im not a Tua lover or hater despite my profile photo. I was against drafting him that high. In fact I lost a lot of money betting he would go 16+ in the draft because of his injury history. Not his “noodle arm” or lack of size just the injuries scared me. But once we cast our die with him I chose to embrace him because i am a fins fan for life.

Now we are in this massive disappointment of a season. Its clear to me now that we are lacking talent in many positions. I was worried about our O line going in and the lack of RB moves but I mistakingly thought we were stacked on WR and our D would improve if anything Wow I was wrong.

How much of this debacle is coaching vs managing personnel decisions? I mean its both. Ready to see Grier and Flores leave tomorrow. Grier lost me first but I originally thought we had found our coach. The turnstile of coaches under him, the dysfunction of the OC situation this year and the lack of adjustments, terrible clock mgmt and failure to put leadership on the field has caused me to lose him also. He seems stubborn and narcissistic.

So give me your breakdown. I say this shtshw is 65% Grier and 35% Flores. Just don’t see a new GM and Coach combo ready to ride in and save us.

 

[Libermaniac]

70/30. I think the talent is better than the coaching shows. Most players who leave Miami do better elsewhere.

 

[darefugee]

100% Ross.

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

That's a great, great question. The answer is difficult, though.

I think the offensive line is way better than the sum of its parts, as an example. With a quality offensive line coach would this unit be average? And, if so, how much would that impact the season?

If Tua is a miss, I think that's probably more on Grier. But what if it's like Tannehill with Tua becoming a star for another team?

Agree both are problematic, but I think it's more on coaching.

 

[NBP81]

My inevitable poker analogy...

I won a poker tournament, so obviously Im great at poker. The strategy that won me this tournament is obviously solid, or else I wouldn't have won that tournament. So from now on, this is my tournament poker strategy and Im sticking to it.

Tournament #2 isnt going as planned, seems like every bluffs get called, every value bet I make everyone folds. Nothing is going my way, it cant be the strategy, the strategy was fine last time around. So Im sticking to my strategy.

Tournament #3 is straight up disaster... Im doing the same thing I did the first time around but its flat out not working anymore... Its almost like my opponents know exactly what I have on every hand... Are they cheating? Cant be the strategy, the strategy won me a tournament. No! Its not the strategy, its just bad luck. The strategy is fine...

Tournament #4... Oups! No tournament #4 for you, you're **** out of money...

 

[BahamaFinFan78]

Let me ask you this, do you think a great coach would win more games with these players, having them for a full offseason? There's your answer

 

[KingHydra]

I think it's 90/10. When you look at our play-calling and overall sloppy play, it looks like coaching issues. Our OCs are absolutely awful and need to be replaced but with who? We couldn't entice a strong OC candidate last year, doubt that changed with Flo remaining the HC.

 

[Danny]

I'd say is 33/33/33.................Ross/Grier and Flores are all at fault

 

[Jamesw]

25% OL coach -ultimately HC
25% OC’s - ultimately HC
5% - stupid in game time management -HC
35% bad drafting/ FA selections - GM
10%- Owner meddling

 

[13marino13]

60% on the entire coaching staff
30% on acquisitions
10% on the limited talent of the players. I guess that would fall under acquisitions.

Hard to say how much it's the acquisition of talent, the coaching staff doesn't seem to bring out the best in the players, but what if they were overvalued to begin with, and the coaches didn't have much to work with. I'm confused. Let's just say we suck 100% all the way around and call it a day...

 

[Manning]

It is 100% both. Everything goes back to the GM as he hired the head coach who can’t coach or hire coaches. Plus I’m sure the player selection both draft and FA is selected by both the GM and HC. If none of this makes sense I’ll simplify it. they all suck fire everyone

 

[Fin Fan in Cali]

I give 60% coaching and 40% decision making. But on any given day with this team it can be flip flopped. That is why we must do this right and start with a new GM and let him select his HC. We need a GM with a track record of front office experience as I have listed my choices in another thread.

 

[DPhinz_DPhinz]

60% on the entire coaching staff
30% on acquisitions
10% on the limited talent of the players. I guess that would fall under acquisitions.

Hard to say how much it's the acquisition of talent, the coaching staff doesn't seem to bring out the best in the players, but what if they were overvalued to begin with, and the coaches didn't have much to work with. I'm confused. Let's just say we suck 100% all the way around and call it a day...

Thank you...

Bad play calling or not, the players look bad carrying out those bad plays.

 

[Padfoot]

It hurts my head to try to answer this. Just get rid of both please.

 

[FanMarino]

Everything filters down. Ross has had long enough. He is either unable or uncapable of making the right decisions. How long do we give him a free pass? He's used my team as some sort of hobby or childhood pet project as far as I'm concerned. Hes failed. Sooner our fan base aim higher the better. Being a successful and rich business man only gets you so far in my book when I couldn't give a toss how rich he is especially when it comes to my team being a consistent loser under his ownership.
Don't start me with what he's hired to run this circus.