23 years of...what?

[pilotfish]

Even tho we’ve heard it a thousand times, I was struck by the idea that Beck is the first QB we drafted in either the first or second round since Marino in 1983. In fact, the earliest we drafted a QB since then was Scott Mitchell, 4th round in 1992. Only the lowly New Orleans Saints (‘til last year, anyway) have matched us, using 4th rounders in ‘94 and ’97. In fact, you have to go back to 1971 to find the Saints picking a QB in the first or second round…Archie Manning. I thought it interesting that they did pick a KICKER (Russell Erxleben) with the 11th overall pick in 1979, the same year Montana went to the ‘Niners in the third. At least we had Marino as an excuse for more than a decade. But, talk about ignoring the most important position on the field!

BTW, the Bengals and Lions used the most top round picks in that time, both selecting QBs in the 1st round 3 times and 2nd round once…

 

[Phanatical]

Yep, that's exactly why the QB position has been such a weak position for the Phins for so long.

 

[FiveStar]

Hopefully we can talk about Beck will turn out to be similar to Marino and we dont have to draft a QB for quite some time

 

[Ryno14]

Probably why we needed an offensive minded head coach to spear-head this idea of getting a quarterback at a high draft position. I've said it before on this message board: I'm very excited about the current Dolphins management because they spend alot of money to keep Dom Capers as the def. coordinator, and then made every effort to hire an offensive coach after that. That's why I this draft was so "offensive" in nature, they got skill players and talent, just what this franchise needs on offense.

 

[Vertical Limit]

Hopefully we can talk about Beck will turn out to be similar to Marino and we dont have to draft a QB for quite some time

I hope he turns out better than Marino with a Super Bowl ring.

 

[Mr Yu]

Even tho we’ve heard it a thousand times, I was struck by the idea that Beck is the first QB we drafted in either the first or second round since Marino in 1983. In fact, the earliest we drafted a QB since then was Scott Mitchell, 4th round in 1992. Only the lowly New Orleans Saints (‘til last year, anyway) have matched us, using 4th rounders in ‘94 and ’97. In fact, you have to go back to 1971 to find the Saints picking a QB in the first or second round…Archie Manning. I thought it interesting that they did pick a KICKER (Russell Erxleben) with the 11th overall pick in 1979, the same year Montana went to the ‘Niners in the third. At least we had Marino as an excuse for more than a decade. But, talk about ignoring the most important position on the field!

BTW, the Bengals and Lions used the most top round picks in that time, both selecting QBs in the 1st round 3 times and 2nd round once…

Hard to believe we have fallen on hard times with that kind of thinking , huh?
Just remember: Fletcher , not Brees.

 

[Conuficus]

What is really shows is that we have lagged behind the times in terms of separartion of power between the Coach and the GM. As the draft picks got fewer in number the importance of each one rose exponentially. Consider that years ago there were players getting drafted in the 11th round and beyond. if every year you were able to draft 12 players, it is not difficult to find 4 that can contribute in varying ways. Try finding 4 every year or so now, and then keeping them. If a GM could do that then he might be infamous. The franchise now has to cope with player movement, salary cap and a 53 man roster, and all year training. Other franchise adapted we did not and that is why we had such a bad string of drafts. Maybe now we can get lucky..........just for a while and get some nice, quality talent.

 

[Larry Little]

Just remember: Fletcher , not Brees.

Also remember: We passed on Brees twice.

 

[Pauly]

Yep, that's exactly why the QB position has been such a weak position for the Phins for so long.

Ummm, The Lions have invested a bunch more high picks for QBs than we did and all they got to show for it is a few guys who are backup quality guys at best. And the Bengals were even worse until they got Carson Palmer.

Drafting the right QB is far more important than spending 1st and second round picks on QBs just for the hell of it.

 

[pilotfish]

Drafting the right QB is far more important than spending 1st and second round picks on QBs just for the hell of it.

Man, I couldn't agree more. But, the method I'm a fan of is basically what Mueller has said in the past. Always look to draft a QB early in every draft. It allows a contingency plan in case of injury or, these days, behavioral issues. Additionally, if you can develop guys, it allows you to reap future rewards on the trade market.
I hope this is our plan for the future.

 

[dlockz]

Hopefully we can talk about Beck will turn out to be similar to Marino and we dont have to draft a QB for quite some time

Hopefully nwe learned our lesson and dont wait that long again.

 

[NativeFloridian]

all we can do is hope and pray

 

[Phanatical]

Ummm, The Lions have invested a bunch more high picks for QBs than we did and all they got to show for it is a few guys who are backup quality guys at best. And the Bengals were even worse until they got Carson Palmer.

Drafting the right QB is far more important than spending 1st and second round picks on QBs just for the hell of it.

Just b/c the Lions had trouble drafting the "right" QB with their early round picks doesn't mean a team shouldn't do it. There are a lot more successful QB's taken in the first two rounds than ones taken in later rounds.

 

[dabeastdabone]

Although Cam overall has to earn my respect and trust I am happy he drafted a QB, odds say Quinn was the safer pick but I'm OK with Beck.

I think the problem is the Head Coaches we have had since Marino fall under two groups:

JJ and Saban: Ego maniacs thinking they can outsmart the system, i.e. plug in anyone and they will make it work.

Dave W: Clueless.

At least Cam addressed the issue. If he was right or not we shall see.

IMO the top drafted QB's fail as much because they go to crappy teams as because they just aren't good enough.

Thing that annoys me the most about it is I feel watching your team play is multiple times better with a quality QB and the Dolphins were to blind to address that.

 

[Pauly]

Just b/c the Lions had trouble drafting the "right" QB with their early round picks doesn't mean a team shouldn't do it. There are a lot more successful QB's taken in the first two rounds than ones taken in later rounds.

Not disputing that at all. What I'm disputing is the perception that a team must draft a QB simply because one is available in round 1 or 2 if it's current starting QB isn't a HOFer.

I'd rather the team take a year or two to find the right QB and put up with a Jay Fiedler type player as a stop-gap measure rather than go drafting QBs willy nilly. However when Jay Fiedler is your starting QB by choice, not a temporary space filler you have problems.