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Let's just say Mark Andrews for Baltimore is the best TE from that class, at least concerning his numbers which are:

Receptions: 156
Receiving yards: 2,105
Receiving touchdowns: 20
Pro Bowls: 1

Then is Gesicki the 2nd best TE from said Draft? His only competition for #2 is Dallas Goedert.

Gesicki numbers:

Receptions: 126
Receiving yards: 1,475
Receiving touchdowns: 11
Pro Bowls: 0

Goedert Numbers:

Receptions: 137
Receiving yards: 1,465
Receiving touchdowns: 12
Pro Bowls: 0

Numbers are very close and obviously more goes into it besides these numbers, i.e blocking, route running etc. Anyone have more insight on Andrews and Goedert compared to Gesicki?
 
Pre draft. I had Andrew's as the beat TE. Can't tell you how much I was crapped on for that. Then I said there was no difference between the two Gs. And holy crap, so far, pretty much spot on.
This year Sicki separates himself from Goedert.
 
SCOTTY said:
Pre draft. I had Andrew's as the beat TE. Can't tell you how much I was crapped on for that. Then I said there was no difference between the two Gs. And holy crap, so far, pretty much spot on.
This year Sicki separates himself from Goedert.
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Same about Andrews. I think Gesicki is about to explode and even surpass Andrews in production. Hate to see Miami let him walk.
 
Full season bet: Better combo by year's end.

Hurts/Goedert
Tua/Sicki
 
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SCOTTY said:
Full season bet: Better combo by year's end.

Dak/Goedert
Tua/Sicki
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It'll be Hurts/Goedert



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I think Goedert is the more complete TE compared to Gesicki, but Gesicki has the better athletics.
FWIW PFF has him as above 80 grade for receiving and run blocking.

Dallas had played 2nd fiddle to Ertz for most of his NFL to date. And Ertz is still in Philly for now.
IMO if he was the #1 option he would be above Andrews for stats.

https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/...as-goedert-pff-tight-end-rankings-kyle-pitts/
5. DALLAS GOEDERT, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Goedert splitting the field with Zach Ertz to begin his career has created a situation where many don’t realize just how good he has been. Kittle is held high as the shining example of a “dual-threat” tight end who challenges defenses as a receiver and blocker (for good reason). But Goedert is actually the only tight end in the NFL with receiving and run-blocking grades of 80.0 or higher since 2018. He ranks seventh in receiving grade and first in run-blocking grade over that three-year span.

https://www.4for4.com/2021/preseason/dallas-goedert-ready-break-elite-2021
Goedert has done most of his work alongside Ertz, but he has shown that he can step up whenever his senior partner was missing. In games in which Ertz played, Goedert played an average of 59.9% of the Eagles' snaps. He commanded a 12.1% target share in those games, seeing 4.4 looks per game, into which he made 3.1 receptions for 32.4 yards per game. When Ertz missed out, the Eagles sent Goedert out on over 95% of their offensive plays. He was a focal point of the passing offense, drawing 6.6 targets per game (a 19.3% target share) and posting 4.2 catches for 53 yards. He also averaged 0.4 touchdowns per outing, as opposed to 0.27 when competing for work with Ertz. When playing as the Eagles' main tight end, Goedert averaged 9.8 fantasy points per game in falf-PPR. That would have been enough to be TE6 in 2020.
 
Nice to see the breakdown statically. Andrews is a huge target for Jackson in Baltimore.

Of the three, I think Gesicki is the most dynamic. Not sure Andrews would have better numbers than Gesicki with Miami.

Just my take.
 
jimthefin said:
I preferred Goedert since he was(and turned out to be)the more complete TE.

But I do think Gesicki is going to have a big numbers year and Miami should be working on extending him now.
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I can see that. Gesicki is really just a big receiver. He doesn't offer much as a blocker.
 
You have to realize Goedert had to share touches with Zach Ertz , who was one of the better TE’s in the league over the last few years.
i always wanted Andrews myself, I rate them, Andrews, Goedert, Geisicki.
 
Dolph N.Fan said:
Let's just say Mark Andrews for Baltimore is the best TE from that class, at least concerning his numbers which are:

Receptions: 156
Receiving yards: 2,105
Receiving touchdowns: 20
Pro Bowls: 1

Then is Gesicki the 2nd best TE from said Draft? His only competition for #2 is Dallas Goedert.

Gesicki numbers:

Receptions: 126
Receiving yards: 1,475
Receiving touchdowns: 11
Pro Bowls: 0

Goedert Numbers:

Receptions: 137
Receiving yards: 1,465
Receiving touchdowns: 12
Pro Bowls: 0

Numbers are very close and obviously more goes into it besides these numbers, i.e blocking, route running etc. Anyone have more insight on Andrews and Goedert compared to Gesicki?
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Don't forget the asterisk by Gesicki's name for playing on a team with a few different QBs, a couple coaches, several coordinators, a shotty OL, no run game, and a team that completely blew it up and rebuilt.

I think he's better than Goedert.
 
John813 said:
It'll be Hurts/Goedert



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I think Goedert is the more complete TE compared to Gesicki, but Gesicki has the better athletics.
FWIW PFF has him as above 80 grade for receiving and run blocking.

Dallas had played 2nd fiddle to Ertz for most of his NFL to date. And Ertz is still in Philly for now.
IMO if he was the #1 option he would be above Andrews for stats.

https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/...as-goedert-pff-tight-end-rankings-kyle-pitts/
5. DALLAS GOEDERT, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Goedert splitting the field with Zach Ertz to begin his career has created a situation where many don’t realize just how good he has been. Kittle is held high as the shining example of a “dual-threat” tight end who challenges defenses as a receiver and blocker (for good reason). But Goedert is actually the only tight end in the NFL with receiving and run-blocking grades of 80.0 or higher since 2018. He ranks seventh in receiving grade and first in run-blocking grade over that three-year span.

https://www.4for4.com/2021/preseason/dallas-goedert-ready-break-elite-2021
Goedert has done most of his work alongside Ertz, but he has shown that he can step up whenever his senior partner was missing. In games in which Ertz played, Goedert played an average of 59.9% of the Eagles' snaps. He commanded a 12.1% target share in those games, seeing 4.4 looks per game, into which he made 3.1 receptions for 32.4 yards per game. When Ertz missed out, the Eagles sent Goedert out on over 95% of their offensive plays. He was a focal point of the passing offense, drawing 6.6 targets per game (a 19.3% target share) and posting 4.2 catches for 53 yards. He also averaged 0.4 touchdowns per outing, as opposed to 0.27 when competing for work with Ertz. When playing as the Eagles' main tight end, Goedert averaged 9.8 fantasy points per game in falf-PPR. That would have been enough to be TE6 in 2020.
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That's how I had it. I tend to favor the complete TE so I wanted Goedert in that draft. But Gesicki has the potential to be a match-up nightmare for defenses. His vertical and hands are arguably among the best in the league. That's a tough combination to stop. He's also clearly put in the work on his route running and his core strength. I don't think Gesicki will ever be better than an adequate blocker, but he can be a game changing weapon. You pair him with speed that occupies the safeties and he will destroy single coverage.
 
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