3rd downs key to new Dolphins offense...

[tanny23]

I think bess really steps up in the WC offense.hes great in the middle of the field and can move the chains on 3 downs.

 

[trsandaal]

It begins with the QB play. Philbin mentioned this week that receivers don't matter as much as quick reads and going through the progressions more quickly and instinctively. Garrard, IMO, wins out in this department, by early accounts. That said, the coaches will design progressions that feature the dudes getting open, which this year is going to be Charles Clay all day.

 

[Rick Cartman]

It begins with the QB play. Philbin mentioned this week that receivers don't matter as much as quick reads and going through the progressions more quickly and instinctively. Garrard, IMO, wins out in this department, by early accounts. That said, the coaches will design progressions that feature the dudes getting open, which this year is going to be Charles Clay all day.

I agree with this. As for Charles Clay, I can see him playing a similar role as Jermichael Finley did in the GB offense. I am by no means saying Clay is the same freak of nature Finley is though.

 

[LarryFinFan]

Dan Henning and David Lee had zero ideas how to develop a QB.

Well, that's too general a statement....Henning as a QB coach created Woodstrock and turned two mediocre QBs into a viable option for the fins, he took a mediocre qb in Joe Thiesman and took that team to the SB...he then turn a 3rd string Cajun (Delhomme) youngster ( and team into a SB contender... Now he was certainly too conservative as the passing game changed in the NFL in his later years, but he was a good QB developer...of course you had to have a some kind of talent for him to develop...now that may be more of our problems than the OC or QB coach...

 

[mysterj1]

With the new up tempo offense that Sherman is bringing in, its going to be important that the offense moves the chains. The west coast relies on mostly short-medium timing passes and YAC. So with the current roster in mind, which pretty much lacks any YAC ability whatsoever and also void of any surefire great play from the QB position, we're going to get stuck with more of our fair share of 3rd down conversions. How do you guys think the Fins will handle this and what player will make the most impact in those situations?
I think Fasano and Bess might be the targets in thoise situations this year with Clay making some big plays outta 3 and shorts...

I have been a big advocate for this case; I am hopeful that the hurry-up offense all game will create enough mismatches that we get into 3rd and 1, ,3rd and 2 situations rather than 3rd and 6 (or worse). I think play selection in the last few years has put us in a position where we were fighting with one hand behind our back. I think special teams (field position) factor into this, too...

 

[DDTDON]

I did read the post.

Lots of short and intermediate passes ..... how does this equate to having more 3rd downs than other offense systems? How many yards do you define as short or intermediate? You talk as if all we'll be averaging 2-3 yard pass plays.

Nanee had 167 YAC yards in 2011 (6th in the NFL) btw .....
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/p...vingYardsAfterCatch/qualified/false/count/121

In Davone Bess' career 1158 yards of his 2668 total have been YAC (43.4%). He will without a doubt have a chance to increase that more than at any other time given the offense we're running.

Also if you look at the lists, it's comprised of a lot of TE's and backs. It's clear not to pin too much of the YAC responsibility on the WR's only. With guys like Bush, Miller, Fasano, etc ..... I'm not sweating that one bit.

OP was owned with this. Great info, OP should have done his research before starting this thread. LOL!!

 

[Zounds]

I expect to see the RBs involed more in the passing game on 3rd down and >10