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I thought I would do a top 10 list of each position to see how Miami stacks up against the Playoff teams this year. The four to make the list are: #10 TE Charles Clay, #6 C Mike Pouncey, #7 Pass Rusher Cam Wake, and #8 CB Brent Grimes. Starks was close. 5 out of the 12 teams to make the playoffs this year have more players on this list. The rankings as far as 1-10 are fluid, but if you were to make a similar list they would have ~70% of the same names, just in a slightly different order. My conclusion is that although we do have some Pro Bowl caliber players, we don't have nearly enough to be a contender. Also we don't have as many good-solid starters as a playoff team should. See: running back, wide receiver, offensive tackle, guard, linebackers, corner, safety. With those being our biggest needs, we need to go into the draft with at least two new starting offensive lineman in Free Agency. That would allow us to take the top player on the board, who also fills one of the aforementioned needs. I will list the top 10 position rankings below, and then the playoff teams players, and how many they have.


  • Top 10 QBs
    1. Aaron Rodgers
    2. Peyton Manning
    3. Tom Brady
    4. Drew Brees
    5. Philip Rivers
    6. Andrew Luck
    7. Russell Wilson
    8. Matt Ryan
    9. Ben Roethlisberger
    10. Alex Smith

    Top 10 RBs
    1. Adrian Peterson
    2. Marshawn Lynch
    3. LaSean McCoy
    4. Jamaal Charles
    5. Eddie Lacy
    6. Demarco Murray
    7. Matt Forte
    8. Frank Gore
    9. Doug Martin
    10. Arian Foster

    Top 10 WRs
    1. Calvin Johnson
    2. AJ Green
    3. Josh Gordon
    4. Demaryius Thomas
    5. Brandon Marshall
    6. Julio Jones
    7. Alshon Jeffery
    8. Andre Johnson
    9. Vincent Jackson
    10. Dez Bryant

    Top 10 TEs
    1. Jimmy Graham
    2. Rob Gronkowski
    3. Vernon Davis
    4. Jason Witten
    5. Julius Thomas
    6. Jordan Cameron
    7. Greg Olsen
    8. Antonio Gates
    9. Dwayne Allen
    10. Charles Clay

    Top 10 OTs
    1. Joe Staley
    2. Joe Thomas
    3. Ryan Clady
    4. Russell Okung
    5. Jason Peters
    6. Duane Brown
    7. Nate Solder
    8. Trent Williams
    9. Andrew Whitworth
    10. Eugene Monroe

    Top 10 OGs
    1. Evan Mathis
    2. Louis Vasquez
    3. Mike Iupati
    4. Marshall Yanda
    5. Josh Sitton
    6. Larry Warford
    7. Jahri Evans
    8. Andy Levitre
    9. David DeCastro
    10. Logan Mankins

    Top 10 OCs
    1. Alex Mack
    2. Max Unger
    3. Manny Ramirez
    4. Ryan Kalil
    5. Maurkice Pouncey
    6. Mike Pouncey
    7. Jason Kelce
    8. Travis Frederick
    9. Chris Myers
    10. Nick Hardwick

    Top 10 Dlineman
    1. JJ Watt
    2. Geno Atkins
    3. Ndamukong Suh
    4. Gerald McCoy
    5. Jurrell Casey
    6. Cameron Jordan
    7. Calais Campbell
    8. Muhammad Wilkerson
    9. Justin Smith
    10. Kyle Williams

    Top 10 Pass Rushers
    1. Robert Quinn
    2. Von Miller
    3. Justin Houston
    4. Greg Hardy
    5. Aldon Smith
    6. Robert Mathis
    7. Cam Wake
    8. Tamba Hali
    9. Demarcus Ware
    10. Clay Matthews

    Top 10 Linebackers
    1. Patrick Willis
    2. NaVarro Bowman
    3. Luke Kuechly
    4. Lavante David
    5. Derrick Johnson
    6. Vontaze Burfict
    7. Bobby Wagner
    8. Stephen Tulloch
    9. Kiko Alonso
    10. Sean Lee

    Top 10 CBs
    1. Darrelle Revis
    2. Richard Sherman
    3. Patrick Peterson
    4. Joe Haden
    5. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
    6. Alterraun Verner
    7. Desmond Trufant
    8. Brent Grimes
    9. Jason McCourty
    10. Vontae Davis

    Top 10 Safeties
    1. Earl Thomas
    2. Jarius Byrd
    3. TJ Ward
    4. Eric Berry
    5. Eric Weddle
    6. Devin McCourty
    7. Kam Chancellor
    8. Tyrann Mathieu
    9. Antrel Rolle
    10. Dashon Goldson
    • Denver Broncos -8
      #2 QB Peyton Manning
      #4 WR Demaryius Thomas
      #5 TE Julius Thomas
      #3 OT Ryan Clady
      #2 OG Louis Vasquez
      #3 OC Manny Ramirez
      #2 Pass Rusher Von Miller
      #5 CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie

      Seattle Seahawks-8
      #7 QB Russell Wilson
      #2 RB Marshawn Lynch
      #4 OT Russell Okung
      #2 OC Max Unger
      #7 LB Bobby Wagner
      #2 CB Richard Sherman
      #1 S Earl Thomas
      #7 S Kam Chancellor

      San Francisco 49ers-8
      #8 RB Frank Gore
      #3 TE Vernon Davis
      #1 OT Joe Staley
      #3 OG Mike Iupati
      #9 DL Justin Smith
      #5 Pass Rusher Aldon Smith
      #1 LB Patrick Willis
      #2 LB NaVarro Bowman

      Kansas City Chiefs-6
      #10 QB Alex Smith
      #4 RB Jamaal Charles
      #3 Pass Rusher Justin Houston
      #8 Pass Rusher Tamba Hali
      #5 LB Derrick Johnson
      #4 S Eric Berry

      New England Patriots-5
      #3 QB Tom Brady
      #2 TE Rob Gronkoswki
      #7 OT Nate Solder
      #10 OG Logan Mankins
      #6 S Devin McCourty

      Carolina Panters-4
      #7 TE Greg Olsen
      #4 OC Ryan Kalil
      #4 Pass Rusher Greg Hardy
      #3 LB Luke Kuechly

      New Orleans Saints-4
      #4 QB Drew Brees
      #1 TE Jimmy Graham
      #7 OG Jahri Evans
      #6 DL Cameron Jordan

      Cincinnati Bengals-4
      #2 WR AJ Green
      #9 OT Andrew Whitworth
      #2 DL Geno Atkins
      #6 LB Vontaze Burfict

      Philadelphia Eagles-4
      #3 RB LaSean McCoy
      #5 OT Jason Peters
      #1 OG Evan Mathis
      #7 OC Jason Kelce

      Green Bay Packers-4
      #1 QB Aaron Rodgers
      #5 RB Eddie Lacy
      #5 OG Josh Sitton
      #10 Pass Rusher Clay Matthews

      San Diego Chargers-3
      #5 QB Philip Rivers
      #8 TE Antonio Gates
      #10 OC Nick Hardwick

      Indianapolis Colts-3
      #6 QB Andrew Luck
      #9 TE Dwayne Allen
      #10 CB Vontae Davis

      *I did not use PFF for these rankings*
 
I agree with most players selected, but not necessarily the order they are in. It does show that star power at key positions is crucial, and that Miami has a lot of average stop-gap players. While we need to have some average Joe's because of NFL parity, we need to add more stars in the mix.

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futurescout said:
*I did not use PFF for these rankings*
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i would argue about some of that order but it's well done...per usual
 
Yeah the order is definitely interchangeable. They are by no mean set in stone. What's more important is who is one the list rather than where they are.
 
Foles had such an extraordinary year that I think he belongs, late in the list. I don't like Alex Smith and his lifetime 6.6 YPA anywhere near the Top 10. Heck, he was 6.5 this season.

Otherwise not much to nitpick. You'll generally get high number of responses in a thread like this only if there are a high number of blatant mistakes.

In my early years on this site I posted math-based threads but not many people replied so I gave up. Same on political sites. The numbers were either intimidating or nobody had much background to respond so they plummeted quickly. I'm impressed that Gravity receives so many replies, even if most of it is combative.
 
I don't think you give Jamaal Charles and Ben Roethlisberger enough credit.

But appreciate the work you put into it.
 
The whole point is we have as many "star" or pro bowl caliber players as about half the playoff teams. It would be nice to add 1-2 more this off-season, but if we can just fill RB, OL, LB, and a S and CB with decent-pretty good starters we would likely be a playoff team. Our 2nd tier starters or bridge starters don't really match up with Denver, New England, Kansas City, or Cincinnati. We just need to add players the caliber of like Anthony Collins, Zane Beadles, Knowshon Moreno, Daryl Smith etc. type players to make our needs go from bad to pretty solid. We need better bridge starters, and the good news is we could add quite a few with 38 million in cap space. Just make sure the #1 pick is a player with "star" potential.. Darqueze Dennard, CJ Mosley, Eric Ebron etc.

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I really think we should target Daryl Smith because he won't be that expensive and his background with the new LB coach.
 
futurescout said:
The whole point is we have as many "star" or pro bowl caliber players as about half the playoff teams. It would be nice to add 1-2 more this off-season, but if we can just fill RB, OL, LB, and a S and CB with decent-pretty good starters we would likely be a playoff team. Our 2nd tier starters or bridge starters don't really match up with Denver, New England, Kansas City, or Cincinnati. We just need to add players the caliber of like Anthony Collins, Zane Beadles, Knowshon Moreno, Daryl Smith etc. type players to make our needs go from bad to pretty solid. We need better bridge starters, and the good news is we could add quite a few with 38 million in cap space. Just make sure the #1 pick is a player with "star" potential.. Darqueze Dennard, CJ Mosley, Eric Ebron etc.

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I really think we should target Daryl Smith because he won't be that expensive and his background with the new LB coach.
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I really like the guys you've mentioned as FA targets. I'd add Asamoah to the list. Daryl Smith would be great because he's a solid run defender, which we sorely lack. I like Dennard, but I'm not investing a 1st rounder in a corner this year. I agree going BPA with our 1st is a good route, as long as we do a decent amount of fixing of the OL through FA. If we do that, we can wait on OL till our next pick.
 
How many of those Ol were picked after first round?
 
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