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5 reasons the Jared Goff decision will fail spectacularly

cullenbigcstill said:
Goff has a weak arm and just seems overwhelmed like a normal rookie. Our D should feast on him, especially the way VJ has been calling it up I expect us to put a hurtin on the Rams and Mr. 500 will get yet another shiny fat L.....

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Actually the NFLN has been touting his strong arm all day.
 
The Rams have nothing to lose by playing Goff.
Might as well see what the kid can do and get his baptism by Wake
 
A Dolphins loss would be shocking, IMO. San Diego was a good team playing good football and we won in The Murph.
Time to slay in The Coliseum.
 
Fishers hand is definitely being forced here


One thing that really stood out to me during Hard Knocks was in the last episode when Goff was not named the starter. They're interviewing him and ask him about how he feels about where he's at. His response was something along the lines of " I feel good with where i'm at right now" I'm not even a Rams fan and that drove me crazy. You're the first overall draft pick and you let Case Keenum beat you out. I expected some more fire, maybe that's just an impression he gives off but it annoyed me.
 
Really hoping this gets the game televised in the San Fran Bay Area. Local kid (hometown and college).
 
lurking said:
[h=2]1. He's not ready[/h] All season, Fisher, who has never met a quarterback controversy he can't fib about, has said Goff will take over "when he's ready." Is it dumb luck that Goff, after three months on the bench (with some of that time coming as the No. 3 quarterback) happens to be ready the week after the Rams didn't score a touchdown for the third time this season?
That's some great timing if so. It can't be though, which is why the whole charade doesn't feel as much like a promotion for Goff than a demotion for Keenum. It's like Fisher just pushed Goff into the pool to see if he can swim.


[h=2]2. Goff isn't getting compared to Keenum, he'll be compared to his rookie peers[/h] This is a draft that's seen five rookie quarterbacks start games this season, two of whom are playing at historic levels. The quarterback selected immediately after Goff in the draft, Carson Wentz, has his Eagles above .500 in the best division in football and is a darling of the stat community. Trevor Siemian is basically a rookie (he dressed for one game in his rookie season of 2015) and his Broncos are 7-3. And then there's Dak Prescott, the MVP candidate on the 8-1 Dallas Cowboys who, and memorize this number because you're going to want to say it a lot, was taken 134 picks after Goff.
Everything Goff does is going to be viewed through that lens. It's unavoidable. There are no baby steps when you get dropped into the middle of a season that's seeing a rookie quarterbacking renaissance - especially not when you've had four months to prepare. And with games like Dec. 4 at New England looming, it's not going to get much better. If Goff starts the rest of the season, he'll still have started fewer games than all his other rookie friends have started at this moment in time. That's a big game of catch-up.


. Fisher did this for all the wrong reasons. The Rams are 4-5. If they went 6-10 with Keenum as their starter and Goff on the bench, what's Fisher's job security like? The Goff decision was likely made with the input of the front office but head coaches, especially ones who can plan January vacations before the season, have been the fall guy plenty of times before. How do you assure yourself you'll be back the next year? Throw Goff to the wolves and pray he has enough lateral mobility to outrun them.

[h=2]4. The Rams have played more than half a season with Keenum.[/h] The reason Fisher had to insinuate this would be a "watch" season for Goff is so he could have plausible deniability when he didn't bring Goff into a game. It worked for a little but then every game became a question of "why don't they bring in the No. 1 pick?" Then fans started chanting his name and the media was all over a faux Goff/Keenum controversy and finally the whole facade cracked and Goff gets seven games where the main goal is that he remain upright through all of them.
At some point though, didn't Fisher and the Rams pass a point of no return on Goff? When a mediocre team is halfway through its season and playing mediocre football, the last thing you want to do is add an unknown variable into the most important spot on the depth chart. The Rams have teetered on the edge for years. Putting in a rookie quarterback who was so bad in the preseason he was the No. 3 quarterback at the start of the year, might tip the Rams back to the ledge. More likely, he'll send them careening down into crevasse currently occupied by Chip Kelly and the 49ers. How is that good for anybody?


[h=2]5. The Rams offense is bad and quarterback isn't necessarily the spot that needs fixing.[/h] After scoring 29 points total over the last three games (10, 10 and nine, respectively) Fisher has to feel the offense has stagnated (though that assumes it was ever non-stagnating). Maybe now is the perfect time to bring in Goff because he certainly can't be that bad, right?
Consider: The Rams haven't scored more than 10 points in five of nine games to go along with those three touchdown-less games. Keenum is 30th of 33 QBs in quarterback rating. It's been like this all season though. He didn't start hot and go into a cold snap. Even when the team was 3-1 they were doing it with smoke, mirrors and crappy defenses. So, after going on a 1-4 stretch, there's not much to lose. Things can't get any worse.
But they can. Ohhhhhh, they can. Goff is taking over a team whose running back is averaging an anemic 3.1 yards per carry, which would be last place in the NFL if not for the two-man Vikings tandem that seems allergic to positive yardage. Maybe that's on Keenum or maybe it's on an offensive line that has just one guy ranked in the top-half of players at his position (according to PFF). The problem is there, not anywhere else. And unless Goff comes along with a cloned version of Orlando Pace, it's only going to get worse.
Sitting Jared Goff was an entire season was a bold move by a team hoping to build a superstar rather than hoping they had one fully formed. It took 10 weeks for the panic to set in and now Jared Goff, who is already fighting the stigma of being a bust before his first-ever NFL snap, is the starting quarterback of one of the worst teams in football. Should have stuck with Plan A, guys.


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Unless the Rams wins. In that case, these reasons are poo poo :up:

My simple version will be our defense which is playing at a high level. That is the big reason he will fail.

They are going to really try and run the ball and give him a couple of easy passes to start off with. Then maybe he will try a play action pass. There is a chance that the Rams will come out throwing but I do not think so but I hope we are ready for it.

The next reason life could suck for him is if we get a lead early. A mistake by them, some good play from our offense and we are up 10-14 points. And then he will get killed.

But I do not see Goff being told to do a lot. If he is just killing it then yes, Fisher might allow him to build on his confidence. But a early mistake or two and Fisher will worry more about Goff's future then this game. Fisher has a record of setting rookie QBs for a year.

In a way I hate to ruin this kids possible happy storyline but that is the way it goes. This game might be remembered for a long time. It could be the game where he shows why he was taken number one or the game that helps bring about his short career.
 
#6. Expectations of a QB drafted from a #1 overall which was obtained by trading a 2016 first, two second picks, and third; 2017 first and third.


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If I'm Jeff Fisher my first play from scrimmage is a play action rollout looking for Britt against Maxwell. He knows he's going to have a rookie who didn't look ready in the preseason, and teams have been putting 8 in the box on them constantly to keep the running game in check. Plus Britt against Maxwell is a good matchup for them and they'll want to gain the upper hand in that battle early as well as instill a bit of confidence in Goff early, as there's a good chance he could get rattled early from the d line pressure as well as some batted balls because he seems to release low is shorter passes. With their defense I wouldn't sleep on this team, but with the attitude we've been playing with lately I think we can take this one as long as we don't play down to their level on defense.
 
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I think it's more of a case of Fisher being a shi7 coach and talent evaluator than anything else.

Is Goff ready...who knows, but I do know that Keenum isn't a starting QB. I also think that Goff was taken way too early.

And coming against Suh, Wake and co first game up.....good luck kid.
 
Please ask Mr. Hand Holder Maxwell not to screw this up, I see why Seattle and Philly was ready to get rid of him, Goff will make a bad throws and Maxwell will bail them out with a holding penalty.
 
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