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Who knows? The team played well without them on Thursday, maybe Martin and Incognito were more distracting than the controversy. we just need some decent players to replace them

This is kind of what I am thinking. If Martin and Incognito were still with the team and playing, I would be worried. However, both of them are separated from the team so I don't really see an imminent collapse or division within the clubhouse. This may actually galvanize the team and our O-line can't actually be a whole lot worse than it has been.

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Yeh this is more speculation that NO ONE really knows. I've heard that all day "divided lockerroom". Why is the lockerroom divided? Why just assume it's divided without hearing anything from the players?
 
Jeff Darlington is tweeting thoughts from players like Will Davis and Mike Wallace. Both seem to support Incognito
 
From Jeff Darlington's tweets, it seems like players favored Incognito over Martin. Very strange. Even after the racist remarks were leaked, Mike Wallace said:

Mike Wallace: I don't feel like was hazing going on. I don't feel it was anything out of ordinary. We were doing things football teams do

Wallace: "I love Richie. I think he's a great guy. I don't think he was out of hand. I have alot of respect for Richie. I wish he was here."

Rookie Will Davis also said he likes Incognito..

What a truly weird story....
 
Jeff Darlington is tweeting thoughts from players like Will Davis and Mike Wallace. Both seem to support Incognito

I'd rather hear the players themselves as opposed to their ideas and statements being filtered through a journalist.

Michael
 
Can Wake also just said he's fine with Ritchie. I actually expected a little more divide than this
 
I don't think it's divided. I think they like Incognito and have little use for Martin....yet they cut the popular guy.
 
I don't think it's divided. I think they like Incognito and have little use for Martin....yet they cut the popular guy.

Dolphins have no choice with vile quotes like that from Richie coming out. Even if Incognito thought all of this was part of the "toughening up" process and didn't really think Martin took them as genuinely mean-spirited, it doesn't matter. As an organization, you can't keep a guy around who has quotes like that out in the public.
 
The lesson in all this for players, anyone really. Follow the Golden Rule:

"Never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself."

But maybe that's the problem... Ritchie doesn't mind being called all sorts of vile names. He revels in it.
 
I don't think it's divided. I think they like Incognito and have little use for Martin....yet they cut the popular guy.

They had no choice at this point and he has not officially been cut.

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It is up to the leaders...Soliai, Starks, RT and Wake to pull the team together.

This Martin fiasco has nothing to do with them. Go win.
Soliai, whom his agent says is insulted by the Dolphins contract offer and suspended contract talks? Starks ? who flipped of his coaches for taking away his starting position? Good luck with that.
 
They had no choice at this point and he has not officially been cut.

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Although an NFL locker room is not a traditional workplace, it is still covered by all of the workplace laws and rules. The courts are dead serious about harassment and whether it was mutual or accepted, it appears Martin has Richie dead to rights. If the Dolphins and NFL do not act swiftly and decisively, Martin has an iron-clad law suit regardless of how good or well-liked Richie is.

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I would be interested to hear Pouncey and Odrick's reaction to the voicemails. They must have heard similar things considering they were rookies under Incognito and are also both of mixed race like Martin.

It was interesting to hear Channing Crowder's take on all this on QAM. I was surprised that he didn't seem that offended by the "half-n" comment, he actually seemed to be on Incognito's side, even though he acknowledged he went overboard. Crowder was basically saying that Incognito was indeed the lockerroom bully, but in the dumb lugnut kind of way, and that if a player stood up to him, he would leave them alone and then go looking for the next weakest link. He cited an example with Austin Spitler who eventually thumped Incognito after being bullied by him for awhile, and Richie never touched him after that.

The picture is becoming clearer. Richie is a meathead, and his schtick was to bully rookies until they stood up to him or he found another target. But the team seemed to recognize this and just chalked it up to a prankster, "bro" personality, and seemingly liked him as a teammate.

Martin was a different kind of cat, with Ivy-league pedigree and uncomfortable with the dumb jock mentality around him. I can relate to Martin in a sense, as I too hung out with "bro" types on occasion and was never comfortable around them. That being said, Martin approached this in the WORST possible way from a "football brotherhood" perspective. If he was uncomfortable confronting Incognito, he should have dealt with this with Philbin and the staff once he "snapped" in the lunch room. By ditching the place once he finally had enough, and launching napalm over the organization, he violated the unspoken rules of the locker room. For this reason, I don't see any team signing Martin after this fiasco.
 
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