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A Few More Observations for Arsenal and all Dolfans

FinaticalOne

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Hey wasup Arsenal and all Dolfans, I had the chance to sit back and watch the game again more closely on TiVo and I must say that I understand why Saban was pleased with how the Dolphins played. After watching the game again and using the slow motion button a lot, I can understand. It wasn't a bad showing for the first preseason game. Now keep in mind, I'm referring only to the first, second and third stringers only. All of us have talked our heads off about how the players performed, so I'm going to only add some extra insight on things I've noticed that I don't think was discussed before. Here is what I noticed last night after watching the game more closely a second time:

AJ Feeley has been the hot topic as of lately, and I must say that I was wrong about his performance. My opinion has shifted a little, but not enough to say that he will be the QB for our team. His throws were very sharp. He only made one bonehead throw, it was an incomplete pass that fell short; it was thrown to a receiver who had three defenders around him. If the ball wasn't off the mark, it could have been an interception. Right now, the main thing that bothers me is his durability. I just wish he could take a hit better. Overall, Feeley wasn't impressive, but he did "ok" for a first preseason game and I believe he will have a better showing against the Jags. He wasn't in the game long enough to make a fair assesment, so I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do with increased playing time this Saturday. Will he do well enough to beat out Frerotte this summer? I'm not sure yet.

Lamar Gordon...boy oh boy. Where do I begin?!?!? Saban and Co. c'mon, you have to get Ronnie Brown in camp RIGHT NOW :yell:! Gordon dances way too much in the backfield. If you guys have the chance to watch the run blocking in slow motion during the first two series again, check it out. There were holes to run through, but Gordon danced to much in the backfield which gave Bears' safety Mike Brown the time to make the tackles. It was the strong safety making the tackles, not the d-linemen. The o-line did a decent job (don't get me wrong, they have a lot of room for improvement), but if Gordon didn't hesitate so much, he could've had some pretty good runs during the first two series. Now let's talk about the way this guy blocks :down: , he is a terrible blocker. I trust my nine year old to give me better protection in the backfield than this guy.

John St. Clair struggled early in the game, but he seemed to settle in as the game went on. He was the reason why Feeley had to rush his throw that Derrius Thompson dropped. The throw was rushed, but Feeley showed a lot of poise making such an accurate throw while under pressure and getting hit. I'm banking on Frank Middleton winning the starting right guard spot after he learns the blocking schemes.

Vernon Carey is going to be a very good left tackle for us. During the first two series, he dominated his guy while run blocking. He needs to work on his footwork for pass blocking, but he did fine and he will only get better with time.

Donnie Spragen will lose his job to Crowder, Moore or Pope IF he doesn't play better over the next couple of weeks. He may be a smart player, but he doesn't do well with gap assignements. He is too slow on his reaction to plug the gap. I saw Thomas Jones go through Spragen's gap assignment 5 times in the first three series, and two of the runs were for big gains. When Seau comes back, there's going to be some serious competition over there for Spragen's spot, he better rise to the occasion.

I don't even want to go there with the secondary right now, this post is long enough as it is. :lol:

IMO, not bad for the first preseason game. We have a lot to work on, but it wasn't too bad of a showing. Our second and third stringers dominated the game, which shows we will have good depth. Our secondary will be the the achilles heel of this team, at least we still have time to improve it.
 
My only comment to yours, is that Yes Gordon was dancing around alot, but it did not look like there were any holes for him to hit. I think that MAY have been the bigger problem. Otherwise, your comments are pretty on.
 
Oboy said:
My only comment to yours, is that Yes Gordon was dancing around alot, but it did not look like there were any holes for him to hit. I think that MAY have been the bigger problem. Otherwise, your comments are pretty on.

You know what? I thought the same thing too. The first time watching the game, I watched it live without re-winding or slowing things up. But I had the chance to watch his runs in slow motion and I was able to see how the play was developing and it was a whole different story. Believe me, there were openings there for him to take. If he just ran the ball where it was designed with no hesitation, he would've gotten through the hole before strong safety Mike Brown could react, then after he reaches the second tier; it's his his job to make Brown miss him. But he hesistated too much, which gave Brown the time to react to the play and make the tackle at the line.

He had running room. He has to hit the hole without hesitation.
 
FinaticalOne said:
You know what? I thought the same thing too. The first time watching the game, I watched it live without re-winding or slowing things up. But I had the chance to watch his runs in slow motion and I was able to see how the play was developing and it was a whole different story. Believe me, there were openings there for him to take. If he just ran the ball where it was designed with no hesitation, he would've gotten through the hole before strong safety Mike Brown could react, then after he reaches the second tier; it's his his job to make Brown miss him. But he hesistated too much, which gave Brown the time to react to the play and make the tackle at the line.

He had running room. He has to hit the hole without hesitation.
That is even more good news! Then hopefully when Brown gets in, we should see a big difference!!
 
yeah definately good report, you can always see more when you go back and really analyze... really the hot topic of the QBs was the main thing to me and rewatching feeley he made some excellent passes, but really it wasn't enough to judge, people saying he sucked from that performance were way off... didn't notice the holes for gordon but i didn't really focus on that... i thought his dancing was because there were no holes, i'll have to go back and look...

good stuff though
 
Oboy said:
That is even more good news! Then hopefully when Brown gets in, we should see a big difference!!



Exactly. Plus Ronnie is known to be a excellent blocker, so we'll be improved in that category too.
 
arsenal said:
yeah definately good report, you can always see more when you go back and really analyze... really the hot topic of the QBs was the main thing to me and rewatching feeley he made some excellent passes, but really it wasn't enough to judge, people saying he sucked from that performance were way off... didn't notice the holes for gordon but i didn't really focus on that... i thought his dancing was because there were no holes, i'll have to go back and look...

good stuff though

Thanks Oboy and Arsenal.

Yeah Arsenal, go back and check it out when you get the chance. You will see the left side of the line sealing off the defenders pretty well during the first two or three series. I gotta give Mike Brown credit, he's a very good strong safety in run support.
 
yeah brown was everywhere that first quarter... definately a plus for them to have him back healthy...
 
One more person I want to add to this thread:

Manuel Wright is a work in progress. He has the worse conditioning I have ever seen from any player to put on a Dolphin uniform. I think he is going to be a very good player for us later, but if I were Saban; he would be running a lot the next few weeks so he can be in better shape for the regular season when we'll really need him. I hope to see better things out of him this week.
 
FinaticalOne said:
One more person I want to add to this thread:

Manuel Wright is a work in progress. He has the worse conditioning I have ever seen from any player to put on a Dolphin uniform. I think he is going to be a very good player for us later, but if I were Saban; he would be running a lot the next few weeks so he can be in better shape for the regular season when we'll really need him. I hope to see better things out of him this week.

As much as I hate listening to Madden I had to agree with him when he kept pointing out how out of shape Wright was/is. The first play or two when he was in, he seemed to get some pressure. But then tired out and just engaged the olineman and did not try to get closer.
 
FinaticalOne said:
You know what? I thought the same thing too. The first time watching the game, I watched it live without re-winding or slowing things up. But I had the chance to watch his runs in slow motion and I was able to see how the play was developing and it was a whole different story. Believe me, there were openings there for him to take. If he just ran the ball where it was designed with no hesitation, he would've gotten through the hole before strong safety Mike Brown could react, then after he reaches the second tier; it's his his job to make Brown miss him. But he hesistated too much, which gave Brown the time to react to the play and make the tackle at the line.

He had running room. He has to hit the hole without hesitation.


I'm sure if Gordon could see the holes in slo mo, frame by frame and have 5 minutes to see a hole develop he'd nail them all, hell i would! He has like less then a second to decide. If we don't see it 'live' then neither does he, or anyone for that matter.
 
bigmiamifan said:
I'm sure if Gordon could see the holes in slo mo, frame by frame and have 5 minutes to see a hole develop he'd nail them all, hell i would! He has like less then a second to decide. If we don't see it 'live' then neither does he, or anyone for that matter.
But this is why they always talk about "vision" as an important attribute for a RB.
 
Gorden does dance, IMO, hes the type of back who needs reps to get in rthymn with the OL.

Bet hes showcased then traded as by the 5th game.
 
bigmiamifan said:
I'm sure if Gordon could see the holes in slo mo, frame by frame and have 5 minutes to see a hole develop he'd nail them all, hell i would! He has like less then a second to decide. If we don't see it 'live' then neither does he, or anyone for that matter.


The way he ran the ball, there is no excuse. He knows where the play is supposed to go, and he's supposed to trust his linemen that the hole will be there. If the hole does not develop, he has to react to what is given to him and that can be attributed to VISION. Gordon has not showed that attribute since he's been here. He's probably still shell shocked from that hit in the Pittsburgh game, hence the reason he is so hesitant. A true running back runs with confidence not doubt.

I'm not saying the o-line were opening up excellent holes, because that was not the case. They still have a ways to go too. I don't think Gordon is a good inside running back, I actually think Kay Harris runs the ball up the middle better than Gordon. Am I saying that Harris is better than Gordon? No, but running up the middle is definitely Harris' weakness.
 
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