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A present survey of the AFC East

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I have to say that I for one am Ecstatic with Saban's sense of direction, and how is transforming this team - from the attitude, to strategies, to the personel. I for one love the combo of Saban and Randy Mueller.

With the advent of the acquisitions we have made to date in FA, we are definitely shoring up weaknesses.... I am really warming up to Culpepper - I really believe the pieces are coming together.

As far as the AFC East goes, how does it stand presently?

Bills - any updates on them? I realize that there is some chaos due to the game of carousel in the front office, did they find a HC yet? I personally think they're out of the hunt for the time being.. a rookie QB... a disgruntled WR.... a sub-par line.... not too good...

Jets - Are solid at kicker... and well, thats about it.

Pats - the only legitimate obstacle, and the division belongs to them until we wrestle it from their hands. You can never count out Bellichek, but I think their dynasty run came to an end last season... their secondary is still in shambles (to the best of my understanding)... there are some question marks lurking around WR... they lost Ashworth (did they not?).... However, they still have Brady and Dillon.

As it stands, how much money do the fins have right now? How far are we below the cap? Also, I can't wait for the draft.. we're probably going with the BPA philosophy....

Viva Saban!!
 
At the risk of sounding like a homer, I think we have clearly made the best upgrades to this point....as a whole. I think the Jets have amde a few good moves adding Ramsey from the Skins and they still have Abraham they are in the midst of trading (1st rounder), so they are doing some solid stuff. The Pats from what I gather havn't done much a few releases, but not matter they will be good once agin maybe not division winners but good none the less.

The Bills have made a few changes, nothing earth shattering, but a couple of the addition could be nice pickup's. They signed a TE that I think they overpaid for but the guy is a good blocker and that will get Willis some more yrds. and maybe protect Losmans back side a little more. They also picked up a solid guy from the Skins to take the place of Milloy who signed with Atlanta. I see them with a chance of having an 8-8, 9-7 season, and thats being very optimistic.
 
NY Jets - Despite their craptacular season last year, the jets actually had a pretty solid defense. Their biggest loss on that side of the ball would hands down be john abraham, assuming he leaves. They also lost ty law from the secondary, but still appear to have good safeties. They did pick up kimo from the steelers and chatham from the patsies so far though. I'd expect the Jets D to be just as strong as it was last year, possibly a little diminished, we will have to see how much of a hit they take if they lose abraham and law.

Jets offense - Was sucktastic last year, but due in large part to their QB issues. They are losing mega-stud Kevin Mawae at center, thats gonna hurt them. And also lost fabini on the O-line, not sure how that will pan out. I'm guessing they are preping to draft D'brick and see him as money in the bank. they arent really losing any skill players on Offense, and picked up ramsey at QB. IMO, they will have offensive problems again next year unless they get a solid QB and a fresh set of legs at RB (I think curtis martin is on his last leg).

I'd expect the jets to look similar in '06, if they can get some mileage out of pennington and ramsey they may win a couple more games than they did last year but I dont see them as a .500 team unless some MAJOR changes are made.
 
Be careful, everyone was saying the same stuff about the Phins before last year. Remember all the pundits picking us for a sub-.500 year again? Now one year later there are people calling us a contender. Saban deserves the credit for this, but I dont think you can sleep on any of the teams in this division, lest you risk getting leapfrogged.
 
I say we are the best on paper right now, but as someone else stated above.........you never know.

Ramsey could come in there gunning and lead them to 13 wins. Like Avi said their D is still rather solid. They might even pass on Brick and go for Cutler or V. Y.

VY in NY could be a catchy thing.....hopefully not though.

Is brick a center or a tackle?
 
Phinja said:
Be careful, everyone was saying the same stuff about the Phins before last year. Remember all the pundits picking us for a sub-.500 year again? Now one year later there are people calling us a contender. Saban deserves the credit for this, but I dont think you can sleep on any of the teams in this division, lest you risk getting leapfrogged.
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Oh yea, no doubt. Division games in the AFC east can almost come down to a coin flip, regardless of how good or bad either team is.

Those guys know whats up, they play at a much higher level in division games.
 
look, you did a good job stating obvious things but its a lot deeper then that. The bills are clearly in trouble right now, the jets are starting to rebuild and their doing an ok job of it, the pats are loosing players but still gaining soem and they'll have a 9-7 season most likely, which leaves us, if we perform like we should this division is ours to loose, we need to be percise and if we are it could mean big things
 
Phinja said:
Be careful, everyone was saying the same stuff about the Phins before last year. Remember all the pundits picking us for a sub-.500 year again? Now one year later there are people calling us a contender. Saban deserves the credit for this, but I dont think you can sleep on any of the teams in this division, lest you risk getting leapfrogged.
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True, but that "horrible" team that went 4-12 was the same team that went 10-6 the year before, just missing its running back(aka. centerpiece).

It's a shame that one player could change the team's fate so easily, but just another prime example of how horrible our coaching was. I don't see us being that vulnerable under Saban.
 
feelthepain said:
At the risk of sounding like a homer, I think we have clearly made the best upgrades to this point....as a whole. I think the Jets have amde a few good moves adding Ramsey from the Skins and they still have Abraham they are in the midst of trading (1st rounder), so they are doing some solid stuff. The Pats from what I gather havn't done much a few releases, but not matter they will be good once agin maybe not division winners but good none the less.

The Bills have made a few changes, nothing earth shattering, but a couple of the addition could be nice pickup's. They signed a TE that I think they overpaid for but the guy is a good blocker and that will get Willis some more yrds. and maybe protect Losmans back side a little more. They also picked up a solid guy from the Skins to take the place of Milloy who signed with Atlanta. I see them with a chance of having an 8-8, 9-7 season, and thats being very optimistic.
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Are you serious about the Bills? I'll admit I absolutly hate the Bills so I may be bias, but they haven't done jack crap. The Bills are in rough shape. Okay lets look at what they've done thus far.
-----Replaced Adams with Tripplet. Two very different players but based only on last season i'll give the advantage to Tripplet.
-----Replaced Milloy with Matt Bowen. Milloy is no wheres near the player he once was but Bowen is a career back up (he is however a solid special teamer) advantage Milloy
-----Replaced Campbell with Robert Royal. Royal is an above average blocker, with no recieving skills. They also grossly overpaid. Advantage Royal
-----LOOKS to be replacing Moulds with Andre Davis. Moulds isnt the top 10 reciever he use to be but Davis? He was let go be the offensively challenged Browns. The Patsies also made no effort to resign him this offseason and they are in need for recievers. Huge advantage Moulds.
-----Most importantly they still have Losman. Advantage NFL.
At very best they are the same as they were last season, and if you forgot they sucked. Buffalo as it stands right now is a 4 win team...
 
J Tes said:
Are you serious about the Bills? I'll admit I absolutly hate the Bills so I may be bias, but they haven't done jack crap. The Bills are in rough shape. Okay lets look at what they've done thus far.
-----Replaced Adams with Tripplet. Two very different players but based only on last season i'll give the advantage to Tripplet.
-----Replaced Milloy with Matt Bowen. Milloy is no wheres near the player he once was but Bowen is a career back up (he is however a solid special teamer) advantage Milloy
-----Replaced Campbell with Robert Royal. Royal is an above average blocker, with no recieving skills. They also grossly overpaid. Advantage Royal
-----LOOKS to be replacing Moulds with Andre Davis. Moulds isnt the top 10 reciever he use to be but Davis? He was let go be the offensively challenged Browns. The Patsies also made no effort to resign him this offseason and they are in need for recievers. Huge advantage Moulds.
-----Most importantly they still have Losman. Advantage NFL.
At very best they are the same as they were last season, and if you forgot they sucked. Buffalo as it stands right now is a 4 win team...
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This is the NFL, teams are better then they appear. I stated how I felt about the division and I'll stand by that at this point.
 
J Tes said:
Are you serious about the Bills? I'll admit I absolutly hate the Bills so I may be bias, but they haven't done jack crap. The Bills are in rough shape. Okay lets look at what they've done thus far.
-----Replaced Adams with Tripplet. Two very different players but based only on last season i'll give the advantage to Tripplet.
-----Replaced Milloy with Matt Bowen. Milloy is no wheres near the player he once was but Bowen is a career back up (he is however a solid special teamer) advantage Milloy
-----Replaced Campbell with Robert Royal. Royal is an above average blocker, with no recieving skills. They also grossly overpaid. Advantage Royal
-----LOOKS to be replacing Moulds with Andre Davis. Moulds isnt the top 10 reciever he use to be but Davis? He was let go be the offensively challenged Browns. The Patsies also made no effort to resign him this offseason and they are in need for recievers. Huge advantage Moulds.
-----Most importantly they still have Losman. Advantage NFL.
At very best they are the same as they were last season, and if you forgot they sucked. Buffalo as it stands right now is a 4 win team...
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Except most of the guys you listed aren't there to replace anyone, just serve as depth.

Compare rosters when it's opening day, we still have the draft and much more to go before you can see who replaced who.
 
Like an earlier post said, AFC East games, all bets are off; the records dont matter and at times neither does comon sence. There was no logical reason for us to beat the Pats in 04.

Take the Bills, there is no reason they should beat us this year, they are so deep at the bottom of the NFL it is unbelievable a team could drop from preseason superbowl favorites in 05 to a laughing stock the next offseason, how could a team suck that bad? Well I will bet anybody a months pay they are going to give us a game at least once, where both teams are scratching, biting and clawing for a victory.

If the Patriots have any chance of beating us logicly, Bill will have to put an incredible gameplan in place to have a chance, then again, this is the AFC East

The Jets, well, not one aspect of the Jets scares me right now. They are the exception to the rule. The will be swept under the carpet of the AFC East, that is unless Ramseys shrink does some serious work because he is still traumatised by steve spurrior.
 
Crisis said:
Except most of the guys you listed aren't there to replace anyone, just serve as depth.

Compare rosters when it's opening day, we still have the draft and much more to go before you can see who replaced who.
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Dont get so defensive. This thread is about a survey of the AFC east, as of now. Not after the draft, during the draft, after June 1st cuts. Right now those would be the bums Saint Levy chose to replace your open spots. So as of now you are even worse than last year.

Also, i'm pretty sure that Tripplet will replace Adams, Royal will replace Campbell, and all I've heard from Bills fans is how fast Davis is, "if only he stays healthy", so I assumed he was signed to atleast compete for the 2nd wideout spot. Hey if not great, just another hole for your Bills to have to fill.
 
feelthepain said:
. This is the NFL, teams are better then they appear,I stated how I felt about the division and I'll stand by that at this point.
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If thats your opinion, I can respect that (even though I greatly disagree), but for the life of me I don't understand what you are trying to say with this quote "This is the NFL, teams are better then they appear". That just doesnt make any sense to me?
 
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