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A winning QB on the bench

Lawrence said:
Way to keep the discussion non-football related, seeing as how you didnt even see the game and as a result have no intelligent or credible contributions to the forum. :)
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What the hell credible contributions do you have. Inviting people on the forum to section 448.:roflmao::roflmao:
 
minus said:
Jay at least got us to playoffs.
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He did? the team didnt? You mean when NE was 5-11 and the Bills were 5-11 and teh only comp was teh jets? Ok yeah you are right. Of course when NE started playing well they knocked us out of the division seat and we squeaked in in 2001 as a wc, of course there was 3 wildcards still in 01 but hey lets just consider that. We had 3 playoffs games, won one. When it was put on Jay to win those games he couldnt. That is also not considered cause it doesnt fit your argument right? Those are the problems with Jay, he cannot win if teh defense doesnt perform, can AJ? Dont know, 2 games with this offense in this state, aint no judge there. WHen did Jay take us to a winning season when teh offense, the offense as whole, was in this state?
 
DA DICK said:
What the hell credible contributions do you have. Inviting people on the forum to section 448.:roflmao::roflmao:
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Those are people like you that have to resport to personal insults since they do not have anything smart to say. So if they want to insult me, I just said where I sit so they can come insult me. Now, as far as this discussion about last night's game, you need to stay quiet until you get a tape of it or something, and then maybe you will know what youre talking about.
 
rickeyrunsover said:
He did? the team didnt? You mean when NE was 5-11 and the Bills were 5-11 and teh only comp was teh jets? Ok yeah you are right. Of course when NE started playing well they knocked us out of the division seat and we squeaked in in 2001 as a wc, of course there was 3 wildcards still in 01 but hey lets just consider that. We had 3 playoffs games, won one. When it was put on Jay to win those games he couldnt. That is also not considered cause it doesnt fit your argument right? Those are the problems with Jay, he cannot win if teh defense doesnt perform, can AJ? Dont know, 2 games with this offense in this state, aint no judge there. WHen did Jay take us to a winning season when teh offense, the offense as whole, was in this state?
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once again according to you, we won in spite of Jay, but were losing has nothing to do with AJ. Youre such a selective blamer.
 
rickeyrunsover said:
He did? the team didnt? You mean when NE was 5-11 and the Bills were 5-11 and teh only comp was teh jets? Ok yeah you are right. Of course when NE started playing well they knocked us out of the division seat and we squeaked in in 2001 as a wc, of course there was 3 wildcards still in 01 but hey lets just consider that. We had 3 playoffs games, won one. When it was put on Jay to win those games he couldnt. That is also not considered cause it doesnt fit your argument right? Those are the problems with Jay, he cannot win if teh defense doesnt perform, can AJ? Dont know, 2 games with this offense in this state, aint no judge there. WHen did Jay take us to a winning season when teh offense, the offense as whole, was in this state?
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One thing is obvious.A.J can't win if the defense perform.Stop with your BS and face reality.A.J Feeley is not better than Jay Fiedler.Having a better arm doesn't make you a better QB.
 
Lawrence said:
rickeyrunsover said:
Better how? Yeah that is right I love all the playoff wins Jay ha lead us to, you know 1 back in 2000 when Lamar ran for 209 yds on 40 carries and Jay had 4 ints. Yep that is much better! Want more examples? got plenty![/QUOTE As much as you would like to take away from the 41 wins he was part of you can't. That's a real #. It seems that you werent prepared for AJ sucking this hard, but I told you.
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Lawrence you are the BIGGEST slf back patter there is and your post are useless. When counter points to your 41 wins are brought up you ignore them cause you have no argument, just "I said I was right so therefore I am". What you told me, was basically nothing of any worth.
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Lawrence said:
Those are people like you that have to resport to personal insults since they do not have anything smart to say. So if they want to insult me, I just said where I sit so they can come insult me. Now, as far as this discussion about last night's game, you need to stay quiet until you get a tape of it or something, and then maybe you will know what youre talking about.
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As usual you keep it non football related since you have squat to say.
 
rickeyrunsover said:
Lawrence you are the BIGGEST slf back patter there is and your post are useless. When counter points to your 41 wins are brought up you ignore them cause you have no argument, just "I said I was right so therefore I am". What you told me, was basically nothing of any worth.
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You fail to realize that there are no counter-points to 41 wins. That really happened. And Jay was QB for all of them, whether we had ricky, a better line or a great D. He was the Capt. of the ship and earned veterans respect. You tring to discredit that to push your own agenda of AJ is not valid.
 
DA DICK said:
As usual you keep it non football related since you have squat to say.
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I have alot to say, i actually go to and watch the games. :roflmao: You do neither.
 
Jay v AJ, 2 games and everyone is bailing on AJ? Honestly Jay would win this team more games but giving up a 2nd rd pick for AJ gives him the job till the end of the season.
 
djfresh47 said:
Jay v AJ, 2 games and everyone is bailing on AJ? Honestly Jay would win this team more games but giving up a 2nd rd pick for AJ gives him the job till the end of the season.
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So because Rick stupidly wasted a 2nd rd pick on this turd, he should remain the starter to justify that?
 
Lawrence said:
You fail to realize that there are no counter-points to 41 wins. That really happened. And Jay was QB for all of them, whether we had ricky, a better line or a great D. He was the Capt. of the ship and earned veterans respect. You tring to discredit that to push your own agenda of AJ is not valid.
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Just because Jay was the QB does not definetely make him responsible for all the wins. So from your pre school analysis, Dilfer and Banks were responsible for the 2000 Ravens going to the SB and winning it right.:eek: Open your eyes.
 
Lawrence said:
once again according to you, we won in spite of Jay, but were losing has nothing to do with AJ. Youre such a selective blamer.
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Are you really clueless or what? I give Jay credit for being a part of those wins. Ask most regulars here, I supported and vehemetly defended Jay over 4 years. But just as I hate Jay being blamed for things he didnt do, i hate the credit that he is getting for things he didnt do. So keep telling me you told me so, even if what you told nme isnt true. Because you say it doesnt make it true. 2 games doesnt make a career, 4 years does, but that is lost on you right?

What part of when the team needed Jay to step up whn we had injuries or teh defense was wore down late in the season and Jay failed to get it done dont you understand? AJ has had 2 games with 9 new starters on offense, when did Jay ever have that? Many are saying Jay lead us to teh playoffs, I pointed out that the Team did, of which Jay was a part. Jay was not teh reasonb why we got there, HE HAS NOT EVER PICKED THE TEAM UP AND CARRIED IT TO THE PLAYOFFS. Yes he gets credit for contributing to the 41 wins, he did his part, but in those 41 wins, when was it a 41-38 type contest whn teh defense was playing like swiss cheese? When did he lead come backs of 11 points with less than 5 minutes? Those are what a starting calibur above avg qbs do. He doesnt. He was a part of teh 41 wins, he wasnt the reason for teh 4 wins.
 
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Lawrence said:
No matter how big or red your font may be, Jay was a part of and contributed to 41 wins. Your boy AJ stinks. Deal with that reality pal.
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Jay and AJ are equally bad...It doesn't matter who we had in there, we'd still have the same result. The only issue i have is that i feel like we're forced to play AJ because of what we gave up to get him.
 
Lawrence said:
You fail to realize that there are no counter-points to 41 wins. That really happened. And Jay was QB for all of them, whether we had ricky, a better line or a great D. He was the Capt. of the ship and earned veterans respect. You tring to discredit that to push your own agenda of AJ is not valid.
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See this what I mean, does Jay have 41 wins or do the Dolphins have 41 wins while Jay was starter? so yeah there is a comeback, because how did we get the 41 wins, did Jay solely lead us to the wins? Was teh defense the same as we had in the 80s and the run game was teh 80s run game where Jay was throwing 50 times game after game, avg 2 to 3 td passes a game with 1 or less ints? Or did he always have 1000 + rushers his 4 years starting or 3 years and one with 987 yds? Think Gordon at this pace will reach that? Not at this pace. You say stats as if they prove everything, they dont, unless you can take all factors that go into creating those stats into account.
 
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