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After today’s game we should banish the entire Tua family back to Hawaii and have them thrown into a live volcano. Sometimes this board is really embarrassing to call a Dolphins site. I’m not advocating homerism here just asking for objectivity and you just can’t get it. Where do some of these posters comes from and what games are they watching. Are they really trolls, are they that clueless or just really don’t watch the actual games????

What I saw today was a kid who hasn’t played in over a year get the kitchen sink thrown at him from a top five defense. He played with no running game, WRs who couldn’t catch a snail today, WRs who couldn’t get separation and pressure up the middle. Yeah the play calling was vanilla by design. We know why. His passes that he did get off were crisp and accurate and he didn’t throw a pick.

No excuses, but my god, can we give this kid the rest of the season to praise or bury him? We’re 4-3 by the way and our coach has our players prepared. Beginning of the season the uninformed wanted Flores fired because the defense was getting handled now they want Tua gone after one game. So laughable
 
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Well said. Unfortunately there’s a faction of fans here that don’t comprehend simple logic. Or just refuse to acknowledge it even if they do understand it. Doesn’t fit the agenda.

Nice attempt, though, my friend. You clearly have two good eyes and a lot of common sense.
 
Fin fans are always going to piss on their QB's, we never see long term, Circumstances, or Surrounding Talent..

Thats why this organization pissed away a perfectly fine QB's career here already in Tannehill, some making him seem like the NFL's worst QB... We reap what we sow but really Tua is going to be the guy that takes us to the championship contention in about 2 years.. BOOK IT because we have a smart coach with Flores and YES i'm gonna say it finally a forward thinking GM in Chris Grier that adds draft picks instead of subtracting them..

In my ideal world i'd maybe trade Byron Jones for a first round pick or second round pickthen with the first round picks next year i'd take Patrick Surtain Jr, Devonta Smith, and another Offensive Lineman for Tua..
 
Dolphins did not draft the player they wanted. So they want the draftee to fail.
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Fin fans are always going to piss on their QB's, we never see long term, Circumstances, or Surrounding Talent..

Thats why this organization pissed away a perfectly fine QB's career here already in Tannehill, some making him seem like the NFL's worst QB... We reap what we sow but really Tua is going to be the guy that takes us to the championship contention in about 2 years.. BOOK IT because we have a smart coach with Flores and YES i'm gonna say it finally a forward thinking GM in Chris Grier that adds draft picks instead of subtracting them..

In my ideal world i'd maybe trade Byron Jones for a first round pick or second round pickthen with the first round picks next year i'd take Patrick Surtain Jr, Devonta Smith, and another Offensive Lineman for Tu
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Tua looked a little rusty having not played football in a year. Still has to get acclimated to the speed of the game. All of these things were to be expected by any rational person. But he played fairly well without getting much help from his receivers due to flat out inexcusable drops from PROS. Certainly wasn’t Tua’s breakout game - which will come. Not many have their breakout game in their first start. The few that do only get worse from there.

Tua ignited the entire team. It was Miami’s best overall team performance in decades. The Rams just walked into a hornets nest on Sunday.

Tua was handcuffed by play calling after getting out to such a significant lead. It wasn’t the same offense Fitzpatrick was running. If they’re gonna let Tua play then they need to let him play, but the coaches just wanted to secure the win without showing anything else. Expect Tua to build from here and get better. Some of those guys on the other side of the ball he was facing are the best the league has to offer.

Probably wouldn’t hurt to draft Smitty either. He’ll catch those balls Preston Williams drops. He can’t catch anything below his waist and only about half of what’s above it.
 
I will say the playcalling in the second half last two games on offense have been consistent-very conservative if we have a big lead. It can lead to doubt but right now they just aren’t letting the qb make mistakes.
 
Tua had plenty of rust to deal with. The speed of the game will take a couple of starts. Cream rises to the top, that is where Tua will be sooner than later. Those ready to count him out are the instant gratification crowd. Football rarely works exactly how you'd want it to. That defensive performance is what we should be talking about today. We just ram them out of the stadium. Goff won't want to come back here for a long while. There were a couple hits by #44 that were simply bone jarring, Elandon Roberts, at 6 ft, 240 can slam you into next week. No wonder they traded Ray.
 
Don’t you know the couch coaches know more than anyone on this team? I don’t know how anyone can say he played horrible. Yeah the 1st couple of series he played with the 1st NFL game jitters after a big time injury but he settled in nicely after that. If it weren’t for the dropsies on a few of those plays that could’ve extended the drives he probably would’ve had more completions and even another TD.

Ps: at least we know he can take a hit without getting injured after getting pile driven into the ground on his first snap.

 
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If anyone should be run out of town it was Goff in the first half. He was the one who looked like he hadn't played a snap in the NFL. He was the one who looked panicked and was seeing ghosts. Yet he is supposed to be a good QB leading one of the best offenses.
 
I hope Miami takes a different mental approach the next time they are up big and the defense is flying and that is to work on the offense, as there is no better time to. I get it it could cause turnovers, but clearly Mia cannot run the ball and since it is 2020, you will eventually have to get into shootouts. It starts with playcalling. We saw them take the foot off the pedal against Jax, Jets and LA. You have good offenses coming up.
 


Mina Kimes was right about Miami's O-Line (regardless of what Chris Coughman thinks) Someone in Tua's face almost every drop back and NO running game at all. Roll outs even had some pressure from the OLB or DE. Preston singlehandedly bungled one drive and looked to quit on a bomb in the first Q, and Gaskins dropped a critical 3rd down in his bread basket. Gesicki must be reading his press clippings, hopefully they start calling him out as a fraud again, dropping a sweet pass deep down the left side.

Glad Tua got that one out of the way.
 
I've never liked taking your foot off the gas when you get a big lead. For one, it's a boring brand of football. It's basically going into a shell on offence and taking the ultra conservative approach. It hasn't cost us any games yet. When Dave Wannstedt was the coach he did it all the time and it came back to bite him plenty. We're just not good enough at running the football, this team needs a stud RB.
 
EasyRider said:
After today’s game we should banish the entire Tua family back to Hawaii and have them thrown into a live volcano. Sometimes this board is really embarrassing to call a Dolphins site. I’m not advocating homerism here just asking for objectivity and you just can’t get it. Where do some of these posters comes from and what games are they watching. Are they really trolls, are they that clueless or just really don’t watch the actual games????

What I saw today was a kid who hasn’t played in over a year get the kitchen sink thrown at him from a top five defense. He played with no running game, WRs who couldn’t catch a snail today, WRs who couldn’t get separation and pressure up the middle. Yeah the play calling was vanilla by design. We know why. His passes that he did get off were crisp and accurate and he didn’t throw a pick.

No excuses, but my god, can we give this kid the rest of the season to praise or bury him? We’re 4-3 by the way and our coach has our players prepared. Beginning of the season the uninformed wanted Flores fired because the defense was getting handled now they want Tua gone after one game. So laughable
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Your mistake is you are using reasonable thinking. We live in a world of instant gratification. This site is full of fans (which is short for fanatics). You explained it perfectly, but many here (and for any team TBH) can't see that.
 
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