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With all that has gone on this year, I hope some people have finally learned the lesson that if a QB looks bad, it's on him. There were soooooooooooooo many excuses this season that Rosen looked like garbage because of his surrounding talent, or lack thereof, that he wasn't given a fair shot, he was set up to fail blah blah blah.

Can we please look at what Fitzpatrick accomplished with the same players and raise our standards a bit for what a QB can or can't do and what they can actually control?

Yeah, I know the whole "Fitzpatrick is a veteran and has seen it all so he's more apt to handle the pressure and lack of talent than someone like Rosen" is coming, but that isn't the same thing as making the excuse that Rosen was only bad because everybody else was bad. Fitzpatrick still took the most hits in the league and with no running game put up a top 10 offense the last 9 weeks of the season.
 
Kamelion4291 said:
With all that has gone on this year, I hope some people have finally learned the lesson that if a QB looks bad, it's on him. There were soooooooooooooo many excuses this season that Rosen looked like garbage because of his surrounding talent, or lack thereof, that he wasn't given a fair shot, he was set up to fail blah blah blah.

Can we please look at what Fitzpatrick accomplished with the same players and raise our standards a bit for what a QB can or can't do and what they can actually control?

Yeah, I know the whole "Fitzpatrick is a veteran and has seen it all so he's more apt to handle the pressure and lack of talent than someone like Rosen" is coming, but that isn't the same thing as making the excuse that Rosen was only bad because everybody else was bad. Fitzpatrick still took the most hits in the league and with no running game put up a top 10 offense the last 9 weeks of the season.
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Rosen didn't succeed because he wasn't ready to play.

He may never be ready to play.

It is what it is.

Having poor pass blocking and running attack (to put it politely) didn't help, but it isn't why he wasn't successful.
 
Kamelion4291 said:
With all that has gone on this year, I hope some people have finally learned the lesson that if a QB looks bad, it's on him. There were soooooooooooooo many excuses this season that Rosen looked like garbage because of his surrounding talent, or lack thereof, that he wasn't given a fair shot, he was set up to fail blah blah blah.

Can we please look at what Fitzpatrick accomplished with the same players and raise our standards a bit for what a QB can or can't do and what they can actually control?

Yeah, I know the whole "Fitzpatrick is a veteran and has seen it all so he's more apt to handle the pressure and lack of talent than someone like Rosen" is coming, but that isn't the same thing as making the excuse that Rosen was only bad because everybody else was bad. Fitzpatrick still took the most hits in the league and with no running game put up a top 10 offense the last 9 weeks of the season.
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It's too early to turn the page on Rosen but I NEVER want to throw someone out there to "see what we've got". I want the coaches to know whet they've got based on practice time, meetings and general discipline (taking care of their body, studying etc.). I think the biggest misconception on finheaven is that the coaches need to see guys they feel are not ready to play in real games to know what they have. That is BULLSHIT! I'm not turning the page on Rosen but I don't want any QB to just be handed the job period. If he and Fitz are here next year I want him to take it and I don't want to hear crying about experience. Fitz is not that talented, the QB that replaces him should be a guy who shows he's ready to play and his HUGE talent advantage outweighs Fitz's experience. Period! Anything else is just HOPE and HOPE doesn't work in the NFL. One of my least favorite sayings is "play player X because they can't be any worse." Talk about low standards.
 
Kamelion4291 said:
With all that has gone on this year, I hope some people have finally learned the lesson that if a QB looks bad, it's on him. There were soooooooooooooo many excuses this season that Rosen looked like garbage because of his surrounding talent, or lack thereof, that he wasn't given a fair shot, he was set up to fail blah blah blah.

Can we please look at what Fitzpatrick accomplished with the same players and raise our standards a bit for what a QB can or can't do and what they can actually control?

Yeah, I know the whole "Fitzpatrick is a veteran and has seen it all so he's more apt to handle the pressure and lack of talent than someone like Rosen" is coming, but that isn't the same thing as making the excuse that Rosen was only bad because everybody else was bad. Fitzpatrick still took the most hits in the league and with no running game put up a top 10 offense the last 9 weeks of the season.
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Kamelion4291 said:
With all that has gone on this year, I hope some people have finally learned the lesson that if a QB looks bad, it's on him. There were soooooooooooooo many excuses this season that Rosen looked like garbage because of his surrounding talent, or lack thereof, that he wasn't given a fair shot, he was set up to fail blah blah blah.

Can we please look at what Fitzpatrick accomplished with the same players and raise our standards a bit for what a QB can or can't do and what they can actually control?

Yeah, I know the whole "Fitzpatrick is a veteran and has seen it all so he's more apt to handle the pressure and lack of talent than someone like Rosen" is coming, but that isn't the same thing as making the excuse that Rosen was only bad because everybody else was bad. Fitzpatrick still took the most hits in the league and with no running game put up a top 10 offense the last 9 weeks of the season.
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Have to look at the early season, though. Fitz started out pretty poorly. He was the quarterback in those first two games in which Miami was outscored 102-10. It was his play that gave Rosen a chance. No question, Rosen played poorly as well in limited games. He didn't elevate the talent, but can we judge on such a limited amount of playing time?

Fitz ended up having a pretty incredible season when you consider he was running for his life and didn't have much support in the run game. But, I think judging Rosen from the early season is a little unfair. That has to be compared with how Fitz played in the early season as well.
 
im sure theres alot of mutual respect between fitz and flores at this point...even if we draft a qb, i think flores gives fitz a shot to compete next season
 
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