Haha.. its funny how you keep saying this.. So what you are saying is there is no pressure at all for any player on any team to keep their jobs. No pressure to win is a statement I give ZERO credit for.
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Haha.. its funny how you keep saying this.. So what you are saying is there is no pressure at all for any player on any team to keep their jobs. No pressure to win is a statement I give ZERO credit for.
poor guy had no 1st team reps, how is a player ever to succeed w/o them? How come Chad henne won games right away when he had no 1st team reps in 2009? You truly are the king of excuses.
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There are different types of pressure, every game has pressure but pressure to win, the expecttions by the team, fans, media to win is a very different pressure. He FAILED in Carolina w/ that pressure, he failed in Maimi, he succeeded in both places when his teams seasons were over and they had no pressure to win.
And you keep making excuses for Sanchez and his lack of accountability considering 2 key players who played with Big Ben and Rivers, 2 actual legitimate QBs, called him "coddled." But hey, if you want to spin that he's had pressure, looks to me that vs Atlanta in 09, the way he crapped the bed vs SD, almost but not bad enough for them not to beat themselves, the second half of the Colts playoff game same year, and at the least the last 3 games against .500 or below teams, when he needed to win, he sure fizzled. Can't parse rationalizations for him both ways like the organization has done, at least until they went out and got Tebow.
But then again, considering you wouldn't take a first rounder for Sanchez, or trade him for Schaub , let alone for Ryan or Rivers, and think he's a top 7 league QB, what's the use me telling you that Moore is the superior QB as your points of reference are embarrassingly homeristic?
I don't make excuses, I state facts. I bashed him for his poor play to end 2011, I priased him for his excellent play in postseason and his good season for a rookie in '09 and good season overall in '10. If he sucks this year i'll say so, when he has a good year I'll applaud.
I've followed this tam a long time, this is the first time in my life we have a young QB who is good, durable and I know we can win it all with. i'm not giving that up for 1st rd picks or fantasy QBs that melt under January pressure.
"crapped the bed vs. SD"- when you post nonsense like this you just look so silly, he played very well against SD and was a key to helping the team win. you just don't understand this game if you think he "crapped the bed".
LT said coddled? who cares? LT's former SD teammates hated him when he left too, many of sanchez's current teammates came to his defense.
Schaub: never led team to playoffs, gets hurt, Houston makes playoffs
Rivers: sanchez beat him head to head and outplayed him, has made one title game in his 6 seasons starting and only made it after getting hurt and w/ Billy Volek leading GW drive. has thrown at least i INT in EVERY playoff game he has played in. In 7 playoff gamesd has 8 Tds and 9 INTs(3-4), in 6 playoff games Sanchez has 9 TDs and 3 INTs(4-2)
Ryan: did you see him against the Giants? 0-3 in postseason, has thrown 4 INTs in just 3 games(Sanchez has 3 in 6 games)
but yeah I'd trade my QB for those "great" fantasy QBs
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i wouldnt say that, i think he had pressure on him to show what he could do to give him an oppurtunity this year.
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you do make excuses for him. the guy is a back half of the league qb, and he won his first two year due to the running game and the d, and there is absolutly no denying that man.
I don't make excuses, you don't get to back to abck title games w/ back half of the league QB play. It just doesn't happen, I've seen enough bad QBs through the years to know the difference.
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Ah yes, the tired old "no pressure to win" argument from our resident troll... Funny how Snatchez couldn't seem to play well with or without pressure to win last year. He had no pressure because his slobbinly coach proclaimed him the jest starter for life even though he hadn't earned it. Without the chance at a playoff run he played piss poor. With the chance at a playoff run he played piss poor.
And yet it's Moore who can't perform under pressure.
And yet it's Moore who can't perform under pressure.
Statler Waldorf
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I thought that Jets fans loved Sanchez because he seemed to play better under pressure? Now they are saying the reason Moore out played him last year is because Sanchez had pressure and Moore didn’t? Which is it? Given their first story, we’d seem to reason that Sanchez would have played even worse if he didn’t have any pressure.
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Clearly it does happen. Taco is the very meaning of the phrase "the sun shines on a dogs a** some days"
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He's terrible with or without pressure. Fact.
Pressure only exists when a team is in contention for the playoffs......apparently. It isn't about keeping your job
/sarcasm
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You state opinions more than anything else. A fact is Eli Manning is elite. A fact is the Giants are elite. A fact is the Jets are not elite. A fact is Sanchez is not elite.
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really? you did see it with sanchez. wtf did he do? thats why they dont have a ring
LOL...Sanchez failed miserably all season. Moore came into a new system with no camp, only got 2nd team reps until Henne got hurt, and outplayed your hero. He is clearly the better QB last year.
Sanchez has been a liability on the jets for years. The bottom line is the jets made a mistake trading up for him. They will give him more opportunities to fail. I can actually say that Miami has a better QB situation than the Jets do.
Moore will have to earn the job again. The slate is clean. He has an experienced veteran and a 1st round pick to fend off.
Sanchez is the incumbent starter with a Sparano offense. Good luck with that.
...in 2013...
yeah, matt Moore had tremendous pressure to win which is why when he hd a chance to save their season he flopped but when the season was over he performed EXACTLY like he did in Carolina.
A fact is Eli is NOT elite and the Jets are elite 2009-2011
I guess the company line is about 2nd team reps?
did Tom Brady get 1st team reps in 2001?Sanchez had a million things work against him last year and still had us at 8-8 in bad season.
I'd love Matt Moore as a backup he's a not a starter in this league if you want to win, it's been proven you can win bug w/ Mark sanchez.
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What open competition was he basing this on? A competition he threw himself or I'm assuming their performance during the season. Also, with 12 starts last year, can we please quit saying Moore was 6-3. He started week 4 when SD knocked out Henne. Moore was 6-7. He managed nothing against SD, then had a bye week and came back and we only put up 6 pts against the Jets and he gave Revis a pic 6. Moore continued his losing ways in week 7 against the Broncos leading the team to only 15 pts.