roy_miami
2020 cant get here soon enough
If its just based on last years play shouldn't Tebow be ranked number 2?
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Nyj, he took the first couple of games just to get the reps, i.e., no tc with first unit..learning new O..and then thrust into action..once he got familiar he did a very good job..stop trying to rain on his parade..Sanchez has been in that O all his time in NY and still wasn't better than moore who was learning the O on the fly..period. end of discussion unless you're going to analyze it with more informed comments than these..
Of course it does. Everyone knows it. Your denials will not change that. Sanchez will not finish the year as the Jets starter.
Well you're more receptive than me: IMO Sanchez is too sensitive, raw and lacks the cajones to be a good backup for us. Guaranteed Moore would kick his azz in a fair TC competition (as would likely even Henne). IMO, the litmus test for Sanchez is how many teams would welcome him as their starter. Frankly, given existing QBs and recent draftees, I can't think of any with the possible exception of Jacksonville... and maybe not even them.
But be that as it may; you're certainly entitled to your opinions and may even get some "amens" on TGG (although I'm noticing not all that many these days) but we're just as entitled, and probably more spot on to think your QB opinions aren't worth too much considering you wouldn't trade Sanchez for a 1st, for Rivers, for Ryan, for Schaub or most better QBs, you think Sanchez is a top 7 league QB and you don't think Eli is elite.
Those are your words not ours. So given your questionable subjective opinions of the foregoing, it's hard to take your opinions of Sanchez, Moore - or any QB for that matter as more than delusional or homeristic.
More excuses
There wouldn't be a competition btw Sanchez and Moore, no coach is dumb enough to consider Moore over Sanchez.
They were 0-4 when he got his 1st start and they were 0-3 and tied at zero in their game when he came in for Henne. at 0-3 you still had hope, teams have come back from 0-4 before but he was TERRIBLE until the season was lost then he played well but I forgot, he had zero first team reps
he had a chance, if he played like he did later in the year they could have been 2-4, 3-5 and still had hope for the 2nd half.
You are predicting Sanchez gets hurt? that's the only way he isn't the starter this year.
You can try to spin it anyway you like, but thats really just a stupid arguement plain and simple. Every week there is pressure to win regardless of if your eliminated or not.
Also, what games did Henne win right away with no first team reps?
yeah, matt Moore had tremendous pressure to win which is why when he hd a chance to save their season he flopped but when the season was over he performed EXACTLY like he did in Carolina.
A fact is Eli is NOT elite and the Jets are elite 2009-2011
I guess the company line is about 2nd team reps?
Sanchez had a million things work against him last year and still had us at 8-8 in bad season.
I'd love Matt Moore as a backup he's a not a starter in this league if you want to win, it's been proven you can win bug w/ Mark sanchez.
OMG! You sir are totally and completely off your rocker. A two time superbowl MVP QB =/= eilte?? But the 2009-2011 Jets, who didnt even make the playoffs in 2011 and SQEAKED into the playoffs by teams that sat their starters are elite.. BAaaahahahhhhahahahahahahahahahhhhhhhaaaaaa.. Thanks for the comic relief this morning, I needed to read this! Next you'll say Sanchez is on the verge of becoming elite and is the best QB out of any of the NY teams... You Jets fans never cease to amaze.
jUNk is certainly entitled to his opinions, just like the rest of us... but around here we all have horses in the race, so I guess you can factor those biases into the equation.
However, I would maintain that if you take most anyone who's objective, having no Fins or Jets biases, and make them aware that the following opinions came from a particular individual it's pretty probable that they'd be pre-disposed to summarily dismiss any such subsequent opinions, especially regarding QBs, as either delusional, il-informed or just outright blind homerism. :idk:
It's not stupid, it's a fact. Winning when you are expected to win is much more difficult than winning when you are not expected. I only wish Miami as an organization felt the same way and didn't address the QB position. do you think if they thought Moore could be a long tern starter in this league they would have drafted a 1st rounder and signed Garrard?
Chad Henne won his first 2 starts, he was 7-3 in his first 10. If Moore was 7-3 in his first 10 starts Miami would have been 7-7 and had a chance at postseason.
team vs. individual are 2 different things, the Giants as a team are elite, Eli as an individual is not. Doesn't have elite #s, in 2 SB seasons NYG won 10 & 9 games, threw 25 INts just a year ago.
The Jets as a team from '09-'11 are the ONLY team in the NFL to reach 2 title games, are the ONLY AFC team to win 4 playoff games and one of 4 teams in the NFL to win 4 playoff games. That's elite.
DavePornstache
Belch & Farter
2 words - Trent Dilfer
what about him? he was an underrated QB, notice how many SBs Baltimore has been to since Trent?
DisturbedShifty
Peace out
You are SO wrong. You only get to the SUPER BOWL with an average QB and a top ten defense. You get to back to back title games with an above average QB and top ten defense.
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How many SBs have the Ravens reached w/o Trent? I know he didn't put up eye popping fantasy #s but he as vital to their success and is vastly underrated for what he did on that team. obviously they won w/ great defense first but you still need wuality QB play to win and he gave them that making big plays and limiting mistakes in postseason.
tazthenomad
Club Member
That's exactly the point we are making about Sanchez. The Jets' success doesn't mean that Sanchez is good or that he made a significant contribution.
I never said Sanchez was elite or that he will ever be elite but he has contributed to the jets success. yes the D and run game have been 1 and 2 for the most part but that doesn't mean he doesn't contribute.
insomnia411
The world is yours
Just what we needed. Afterall, it's been awhile since the last Sanchez vs. *insert Dolphins QB here* thread.
Seriously. This whole thing is so ****ing old and it's the same exact argument over and over again.
Sanchez is at best slightly above average and every QB the Fins have had since Marino blows.
Aren't we done here now?