Agent's Mock (Only Our Picks, With Trades and UDFAs)

[Regina Phin]

I don't mind it, but I really think that we need more O-line in the earlier rounds. Maybe Doug Free or something... I dunno... our line is just too terrible.

 

[chillyphins]

I just dislike the idea of only getting project O-Linemen!

 

[dolphindiehard]

I would only take a flier on Samardzija IF we got Quinn, just in case they decide to renew their tandem down the road.

 

[Agent51]

I don't mind it, but I really think that we need more O-line in the earlier rounds. Maybe Doug Free or something... I dunno... our line is just too terrible.

Well, like I said in my original post, I didn't have a 3rd-rounder to work with, which is where Doug Free, Samson Satele, James Marten, Marshall Yanda, Ryan Harris, and Josh Beekman are all projected. I would have easily taken one in that round, as Samson Satele and Josh Beekman were my targets in my rough draft mock.

 

[Agent51]

I would only take a flier on Samardzija IF we got Quinn, just in case they decide to renew their tandem down the road.

Getting Quinn is the only reason I had us take the rights to Samardzija, if I didn't have us getting Brady I wouldn't have had us take the rights to Jeff, and if we don't get Quinn in the real draft I hope we don't take the rights to Samardzija, because it would be pointless as it seems the ONLY chance he'd come to football is if Quinn were his QB (and even then it's pretty slim).

I actually started a thread awhile back, right after the NCAA season ended and before Jeff picked baseball, about the possibility of us taking Quinn and Samarzija with out first- and second-rounders. I was saying they make a great duo, and it may even help BOTH of their developments along as they are used to each other and know each other's tendancies and timings, so it might ease the learning curve a bit.

 

[Elliott 1]

OK, so I have thrown together quick mocks here and there when trying to prove a point or responding to questions, so I finally decided to make my own actual mock. I've been working on this for awhile, and I'm finally satisfied with it. Feedback is welcome and encouraged :up:

This is based on our top priority needs being QB, OT, G, and S and our secondary/depth needs being WR, CB, C, TE, and a return specialist.

This was made using multiple mock and scouting sites as sources/references. Players may or may not be there at the positions I have them, but I have certain players in certain places because at SOME point or another the player was projected as being available at, or very close to, the position I have us taking him.

Top priority positions will be highlighted in red
Secondary/depth needs positions will be highlighted in orange

*Trade #9 and #71 overall to Washington for #6 overall.

*Round 1 (#6): Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame - I think Detroit goes Gaines Adams at either #2 or #4 (depending on if the rumored TB trade goes down), and Cleveland takes Adrian Peterson at #3 (MAYBE JaMarcus Russel if Oakland passes) and since Tampa Bay, Arizona, and Washington are set at QB we can move into #6 to take him. I feel we COULD get him at #9 since Atlanta doesn't need a QB and I'm not sure Minnesota would take him, but I don't trust the Vikings wouldn't take him if for nothing more than to try and get us to pay more for him, and I don't want to risk that. It's time this franchise invests in a franchise guy, and Quinn is it. His arm isn't as strong as Russell's, but it is by no means weak. I won't even comment on the not winning big games thing, because that is completely irrelevant IMO, as winning is a team effort, not one man. I think Quinn can make all the throws, and while he may not be the best he looks very good. May not be a HoF guy, but I see many Pro Bowls in his future. I love his work ethic, both in the weight room and film room, and he reminds me of a Tom Brady. I'm not saying he will win us 3 (or more) Super Bowls like Brady did the Pats, I'm just comparing their play, which is very cerebral and meticulous. Not to mention Brady ran the offense Tom does, and Weis said he can make all the throws Tom did, plus the kid has watched countless hours off footage of Tom Brady. I think he is very prepared, and projects as a successful QB and will fill our teams biggest need of the last 8 years (FINALLY).

Round 2 (#40): Anthony Gonzalez, WR, Ohio State - I think Gonzalez adds excellent depth to a position that had been wildly inconsistent, and lost it's biggest threat in Wes Welker. Gonzalez, like Welker, would make a great slot WR, as he runs excellent routes and catches pretty much everything, even the off-target stuff. Has adequate speed (4.44 40) to outrun defenders who play the angles, but prolly won't burn by anybody on downfield routes. He is also a hard worker (like Welker) and could develope into a good #2 WR if he carries that over into the NFL.

Round 2 (#60): Tenard Jackson, FS, Syracuse - "Strong and Violent tackler", and has the size and speed to stick with WRs downfield. Also has a great transition from his backpedal and excellent speed in closing in on the ball. Will give our secondary a great boost, especially with Jason Allen moving back to CB where he is more comfortable. I see this kid as being a future star, and while he may not be here at #60 (he can play CB too, in fact did in college and switched to S during the Senior Bowl), like I said before, this mock is based on a collection of mocks and the average positions of players, and I have seen this kid available in the late second and even early 3rd in some mocks, so he fits in the guidlines of my mock.

Round 4 (#108): H.B. Blades, ILB, Pitt - The defense isn't getting any younger and it's as good a time as any to start bringing in some fresh faces. The veteren guys (Thomas and Taylor) would be great mentors for any young guys at their positions (or period), and Blades seems to prject as a solid starter in the NFL. He has great instincts and is a good tackler. Presents the best value given the way I setup my "board" by averaging player's positions from MANY many mocks.

Round 6 (#181): Cameron Stephenson, OG, Rutgers - Loads of potential for this guy. An effective blocker against both the run and the pass. Said to be a tough player who can play through injuries, and is also very physical. Also versatile enough to play any line position, though G seems to be his best position. Is said to be very raw and will need some coaching because he was never allowed to master one position at Rutgers, but I think Houck is the man for the job.

Round 6 (#199): Johnnie Harline, TE, BYU - Could use some depth here, and I like this kid. Not sure why, I just like what I see, I think he has great potential but will need to put in some extra work to be a solid starter. Will need to work on his blocking at the next level. Had a productive college career. Said to have good hands and be a natural athlete who is very smart and has good body and ball control.

Round 7 (#219): Dane Uperesa, OT, Hawai'i - A hard worker, smart player, and a solid athlete with overall good technique. Said to be very tough. He excells in pass protection (we all know he had plenty of experience with it at Hawai'i, lol). Will need to improve his run blocking in the NFL, and again, could greatly benifit from Houck's coaching.

Round 7 (#225): Tim Mixon, CB, California - This kid is a playmaker. He breaks up a lot of passes and has great ball skills. Has great technique and is a smart player. I think he is a sleeper pick. He doesn't have a great 40 time for a CB (4.55) and had some knee problems in college, but I am willing to take the chance on him in the 7th.

Round 7 (#238): Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame - The rights to this kid with our last pick in round 7 present a much better value than anyone else that will be there at this pick (IMHO of course). Had he chosen football over baseball he would have been a late first rounder. If you look at the Brady Quinn highlight videos, this kid was on the receiving end of a majority of the most spectacular and impressive plays. He is an excellent natural athlete with great size to be a successful NFL WR. Great body control and excels at jump ball situations. Extremely tough kid who doesn't shy away from contact and will sacrafice a hit to make the play. He's a MAJOR red zone threat. He shows great awareness and concentration and adjusts well to off-target throws. Extremely hard and dedicated worker, with a very productive college career to show for it. Could be persueded to the NFL if we pick up Quinn, who is one of his best friends and, of course, the other half of his outstanding college play.

UDFA: Nate Ilaoa, RB, Hawai'i - Probably won't go undrafted, but a few mocks I've seen lately have him as doing just that, and if that is the case I hope we jump all over this kid. The kid is a MONSTER. He's 5-8, 245lbs. His 4.77 40 time may seem slow, but for a guy of his stature I think it's pretty good. This kid just runs through people. He had a pretty productive college career (impressive in a pass-heavy offense) and is just a natural runner with great balance, vision, and instincts. Teamed with Ronnie defenses would get no breaks, as both are physical runners. He would be a nice fit for goal line stuff, or even 3rd down/short yardage stuff should Ronnie need a breather. He also has excellent hands, which adds to his value as a 3rd down back.

UDFA: Marquice Cole, CB, Northwestern - I would like to sign this guy as a return specialist. If he made the team as a CB it would just be a plus, but as far as a return guy, I think he'll be great. He has excellent speed (4.33 40), and is quick and explosive and changes direction very fast. Excellent natural athlete. Scouting reports say "always a threat to take it the distance", and he has "big-time potential as a return man". Could be just the guy we need to Fill Welker's return specialist role, and we wouldn't have to sacrafice any starters to the role.

UDFA: CJ AH You, DE, Oklahoma - Again, may be drafted, but lately a few have him going undrafted (and many others have him in the late rounds, so he COULD always slip past people), and if that's the case, as will all UDFAs, it can't hurt to give em a shot. He was productive at Oklahoma, and is said to be a natural pass rusher with a knack for getting to the QB. He's excellent in pursuit and has a pretty good timed speed (4.70 40). Like I said, can't hurt to give him a shot.

UDFA: Kody Bliss, P, Auburn - With Donnie Jones going to St. Louis, we could use a punter. This guy never had a kick blocked in college (and look at all the tough teams he played) and has a very strong leg, he can also handle kickoffs. He is said to have a quick delivery and handle the ball well (no botched snaps), and again, has tons of experience against top competition in the SEC. The only real knocks on him seem to be that he is a thin guy (5-10, 179lbs) and he occasionally out-kicks his coverage, both can be fixed with a good training program and good coaching.

So there you have it, my take on this whole crazy thing that is the draft. I tried to fill needs with quality players. A few situations had m drafting BPA at the time over need, and others had me getting the BPA which also happened to be a need. I originally targeted Hawai'i OL Samson Satele in round 3, but in my revised mock I have us trading the pick to Washington to move up, but if we stay at 9 and still get Quinn, he would be my 3rd-round target.

Also, the projected trade is obviously depending on if Quinn slips past Cleveland or not. If He is gone in the top three, obviously that trade would be useless and the entire mock would go differently.

If this is all the help your getting for the OL we better carry six QB's on the roster because we'll need them.

Tenard Jackson is slow and has character problems. I'd rather take Wendling in the fourth.

You want to use our #40 on a WR but where do you see a guy like this on the depth chart. Reality is, there is no place for a WR project on our roster.
Chambers and Booker are both highly paid probowl veterans and Hagan and Vick are our gifted projects. Not only that PK Sam is looking awful good in NFL Europe. I saw the Rhein game last night and he looked like a fast edition of Plaxico Buress. He made one catch that was amazing, the guy knows how to use his size. Another reality is that a healthy Campbell or Hakim is going to extremely hard to beat out for a roster spot, especially a healthy Campbell because he is younger. Both Hakim and Campbell run great routes and are game breakers.

Vick may actually surprise a lot of people this year. You have to stop and realize just how hard it is to learn a new position well enough to play it at the NFL level. He has all the physical tools. I think once he gets some more experience he will be a very good receiver. He is actually a very good blocker for his size.

If we draft a receiver he has to be good enough to beat out all these other guys from the get go or it's a wasted pick. We have Hagan,Vick,Campbell and Sam who are still early to mid twenties.

If we take a WR it should be in the 1st for someone like Ginn who will be a game changer and a ST's dynamo. Or, take a WR in the late rounds and probably put him on the practice squad, but the #40 should go for a CB or S an OL player.

 

[MastR_EvaluatoR]

Yeah, and we've struggled at WR and in pass defense for the last several years now, so the arguement goes both ways. Again, the way I did is presents a better value than if I flipped it and had us take a OT and OG in round 2 and a WR and S in rounds 6 and 7. I'd rather have a top-notch WR and S and two OLs with a bunch of upside than 2 solid OLs and a WR and S that don't really show any potential, which is how it would have been had I gone for WR and S in rounds 6 and 7, as none of the players at those positions presented much value at all, whereas the two OLs I have us taking there do.

#1 . You don't know who'll be there .. Nullifying your definition of "reaches" at those spots..

#2. Offensive line is this teams biggest need.. If you think Miami will only draft O-lineman in the 6th and 7th round, you are sadly mistaken.

#3. H.B. Blades was invisible during the senior bowl practices, he is very overrated - and I see you fell into that . ZaK DeOssie will clearly be a better Pro, and a better pick for a LB, as he is slated to go where you have Blades going..

#4. I don't see how a possession receiver like Gonzalez would help this team. We are already full of those guys.. Miami needs downfield speed, not a 4th wideout in the 2nd round.

 

[Kyndig]

OK, so I have thrown together quick mocks here and there when trying to prove a point or responding to questions, so I finally decided to make my own actual mock. I've been working on this for awhile, and I'm finally satisfied with it. Feedback is welcome and encouraged :up:

This is based on our top priority needs being QB, OT, G, and S and our secondary/depth needs being WR, CB, C, TE, and a return specialist.

This was made using multiple mock and scouting sites as sources/references. Players may or may not be there at the positions I have them, but I have certain players in certain places because at SOME point or another the player was projected as being available at, or very close to, the position I have us taking him.

Top priority positions will be highlighted in red
Secondary/depth needs positions will be highlighted in orange

*Trade #9 and #71 overall to Washington for #6 overall.

*Round 1 (#6): Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame - I think Detroit goes Gaines Adams at either #2 or #4 (depending on if the rumored TB trade goes down), and Cleveland takes Adrian Peterson at #3 (MAYBE JaMarcus Russel if Oakland passes) and since Tampa Bay, Arizona, and Washington are set at QB we can move into #6 to take him. I feel we COULD get him at #9 since Atlanta doesn't need a QB and I'm not sure Minnesota would take him, but I don't trust the Vikings wouldn't take him if for nothing more than to try and get us to pay more for him, and I don't want to risk that. It's time this franchise invests in a franchise guy, and Quinn is it. His arm isn't as strong as Russell's, but it is by no means weak. I won't even comment on the not winning big games thing, because that is completely irrelevant IMO, as winning is a team effort, not one man. I think Quinn can make all the throws, and while he may not be the best he looks very good. May not be a HoF guy, but I see many Pro Bowls in his future. I love his work ethic, both in the weight room and film room, and he reminds me of a Tom Brady. I'm not saying he will win us 3 (or more) Super Bowls like Brady did the Pats, I'm just comparing their play, which is very cerebral and meticulous. Not to mention Brady ran the offense Tom does, and Weis said he can make all the throws Tom did, plus the kid has watched countless hours off footage of Tom Brady. I think he is very prepared, and projects as a successful QB and will fill our teams biggest need of the last 8 years (FINALLY).

Round 2 (#40): Anthony Gonzalez, WR, Ohio State - I think Gonzalez adds excellent depth to a position that had been wildly inconsistent, and lost it's biggest threat in Wes Welker. Gonzalez, like Welker, would make a great slot WR, as he runs excellent routes and catches pretty much everything, even the off-target stuff. Has adequate speed (4.44 40) to outrun defenders who play the angles, but prolly won't burn by anybody on downfield routes. He is also a hard worker (like Welker) and could develope into a good #2 WR if he carries that over into the NFL.

Round 2 (#60): Tenard Jackson, FS, Syracuse - "Strong and Violent tackler", and has the size and speed to stick with WRs downfield. Also has a great transition from his backpedal and excellent speed in closing in on the ball. Will give our secondary a great boost, especially with Jason Allen moving back to CB where he is more comfortable. I see this kid as being a future star, and while he may not be here at #60 (he can play CB too, in fact did in college and switched to S during the Senior Bowl), like I said before, this mock is based on a collection of mocks and the average positions of players, and I have seen this kid available in the late second and even early 3rd in some mocks, so he fits in the guidlines of my mock.

Round 4 (#108): H.B. Blades, ILB, Pitt - The defense isn't getting any younger and it's as good a time as any to start bringing in some fresh faces. The veteren guys (Thomas and Taylor) would be great mentors for any young guys at their positions (or period), and Blades seems to prject as a solid starter in the NFL. He has great instincts and is a good tackler. Presents the best value given the way I setup my "board" by averaging player's positions from MANY many mocks.

Round 6 (#181): Cameron Stephenson, OG, Rutgers - Loads of potential for this guy. An effective blocker against both the run and the pass. Said to be a tough player who can play through injuries, and is also very physical. Also versatile enough to play any line position, though G seems to be his best position. Is said to be very raw and will need some coaching because he was never allowed to master one position at Rutgers, but I think Houck is the man for the job.

Round 6 (#199): Johnnie Harline, TE, BYU - Could use some depth here, and I like this kid. Not sure why, I just like what I see, I think he has great potential but will need to put in some extra work to be a solid starter. Will need to work on his blocking at the next level. Had a productive college career. Said to have good hands and be a natural athlete who is very smart and has good body and ball control.

Round 7 (#219): Dane Uperesa, OT, Hawai'i - A hard worker, smart player, and a solid athlete with overall good technique. Said to be very tough. He excells in pass protection (we all know he had plenty of experience with it at Hawai'i, lol). Will need to improve his run blocking in the NFL, and again, could greatly benifit from Houck's coaching.

Round 7 (#225): Tim Mixon, CB, California - This kid is a playmaker. He breaks up a lot of passes and has great ball skills. Has great technique and is a smart player. I think he is a sleeper pick. He doesn't have a great 40 time for a CB (4.55) and had some knee problems in college, but I am willing to take the chance on him in the 7th.

Round 7 (#238): Jeff Samardzija, WR, Notre Dame - The rights to this kid with our last pick in round 7 present a much better value than anyone else that will be there at this pick (IMHO of course). Had he chosen football over baseball he would have been a late first rounder. If you look at the Brady Quinn highlight videos, this kid was on the receiving end of a majority of the most spectacular and impressive plays. He is an excellent natural athlete with great size to be a successful NFL WR. Great body control and excels at jump ball situations. Extremely tough kid who doesn't shy away from contact and will sacrafice a hit to make the play. He's a MAJOR red zone threat. He shows great awareness and concentration and adjusts well to off-target throws. Extremely hard and dedicated worker, with a very productive college career to show for it. Could be persueded to the NFL if we pick up Quinn, who is one of his best friends and, of course, the other half of his outstanding college play.

UDFA: Nate Ilaoa, RB, Hawai'i - Probably won't go undrafted, but a few mocks I've seen lately have him as doing just that, and if that is the case I hope we jump all over this kid. The kid is a MONSTER. He's 5-8, 245lbs. His 4.77 40 time may seem slow, but for a guy of his stature I think it's pretty good. This kid just runs through people. He had a pretty productive college career (impressive in a pass-heavy offense) and is just a natural runner with great balance, vision, and instincts. Teamed with Ronnie defenses would get no breaks, as both are physical runners. He would be a nice fit for goal line stuff, or even 3rd down/short yardage stuff should Ronnie need a breather. He also has excellent hands, which adds to his value as a 3rd down back.

UDFA: Marquice Cole, CB, Northwestern - I would like to sign this guy as a return specialist. If he made the team as a CB it would just be a plus, but as far as a return guy, I think he'll be great. He has excellent speed (4.33 40), and is quick and explosive and changes direction very fast. Excellent natural athlete. Scouting reports say "always a threat to take it the distance", and he has "big-time potential as a return man". Could be just the guy we need to Fill Welker's return specialist role, and we wouldn't have to sacrafice any starters to the role.

UDFA: CJ AH You, DE, Oklahoma - Again, may be drafted, but lately a few have him going undrafted (and many others have him in the late rounds, so he COULD always slip past people), and if that's the case, as will all UDFAs, it can't hurt to give em a shot. He was productive at Oklahoma, and is said to be a natural pass rusher with a knack for getting to the QB. He's excellent in pursuit and has a pretty good timed speed (4.70 40). Like I said, can't hurt to give him a shot.

UDFA: Kody Bliss, P, Auburn - With Donnie Jones going to St. Louis, we could use a punter. This guy never had a kick blocked in college (and look at all the tough teams he played) and has a very strong leg, he can also handle kickoffs. He is said to have a quick delivery and handle the ball well (no botched snaps), and again, has tons of experience against top competition in the SEC. The only real knocks on him seem to be that he is a thin guy (5-10, 179lbs) and he occasionally out-kicks his coverage, both can be fixed with a good training program and good coaching.

So there you have it, my take on this whole crazy thing that is the draft. I tried to fill needs with quality players. A few situations had m drafting BPA at the time over need, and others had me getting the BPA which also happened to be a need. I originally targeted Hawai'i OL Samson Satele in round 3, but in my revised mock I have us trading the pick to Washington to move up, but if we stay at 9 and still get Quinn, he would be my 3rd-round target.

Also, the projected trade is obviously depending on if Quinn slips past Cleveland or not. If He is gone in the top three, obviously that trade would be useless and the entire mock would go differently.

One late round Olineman? Are you mad? Well, everyone can have an opinion this time of year, in all honesty, I'm tired of mock drafts by this point, can't wait for this weekend to be over with so we can finally know what's up...

 

[Agent51]

#1 . You don't know who'll be there .. Nullifying your definition of "reaches" at those spots..

#2. Offensive line is this teams biggest need.. If you think Miami will only draft O-lineman in the 6th and 7th round, you are sadly mistaken.

#3. H.B. Blades was invisible during the senior bowl practices, he is very overrated - and I see you fell into that . ZaK DeOssie will clearly be a better Pro, and a better pick for a LB, as he is slated to go where you have Blades going..

#4. I don't see how a possession receiver like Gonzalez would help this team. We are already full of those guys.. Miami needs downfield speed, not a 4th wideout in the 2nd round.

1: This is a MOCK draft, of course there is no way of telling who will be there, however, my response was to people wanting more OLs early, to which I said I originally had us getting one of the named players in round three, until I projected the trade, and I wasn't going to take one of them in round 2 just to satisfy the OL in round 2 consensus, because they are round 3 projections, hence taking one of them in round 2 would BE A REACH. Simple concept, not sure what's so hard to understand. :rolleyes2

2: I have already explained my reasoning behind this a million times, not going to do it again.

3: I didn't "buy into" any hype, what hype would there be if he fell off in the Senior Bowl? Given all the emphasis that is put on the Senior Bowl and other All-Star games, and workouts, you'd think his stock would FALL due to a poor performance, so what would there be to "buy into" if I paid attention to that crap? My evaluation is based on his game film and nothing more, as I don't buy that a player is super good because of a good workout/bowl game/or senior bowl (hence me being so outspoken against players like Russell, but that's for a different thread). I evaluate based on their in game play and over their careers, I don't just look at their absolute best game and take that as their regular playing (like people seem to be doing with Russell's Sugar Bowl performance) and I definately don't put ANY merit in the Senior Bowl, and I don't put that much weight into workout results either. Guys have on and off days, and the best way to measure them is to average out their game footage, not on one workout or one bowl/all-star game.

4. Because Wes Weker, clearly the best WR on the team last year, was a "downfield speed" WR right? No, he was a possession WR and out most valuable receiver last year.

Lastly, don't agree with me all you want, but enough about the damn O-Lineman. I posted MY mock, which is the scenerio I like, never did I call it factual or anything, so just stop with the "we WILL NOT do this or that" crap. Besides, it's clear that all you want is OLs the first 4 rounds (sarcasm BTW, before you come back with some comment like I can't read because you never said that or anything, like the big arguements we had 2 weeks ago about the same thing) so of course you won't have any CONSTRUCTIVE criticism of my mock, because if it isn't everyone agreeing with you, you have to come up with stupid comments, or force your opinion as knowledge (by saying what YOU think the teams biggest need is and anyone else is sadly mistaken).

I haven't seen you do a mock yet, so if you have all the answers, and the be-all-end-all solutions to fix this team, why don't you post one?

 

[Agent51]

One late round Olineman? Are you mad? Well, everyone can have an opinion this time of year, in all honesty, I'm tired of mock drafts by this point, can't wait for this weekend to be over with so we can finally know what's up...

2, lol, rounds 6 and 7, and yes, I have explained numerous times in the thread my reasonings for that.

 

[PHAZINPHINZPHAN]

Decent mock. Agree with most other posters here that we need at least 1 OL in the first 4 rounds

 

[ohiobryan]

i love you man!

 

[MastR_EvaluatoR]

1: This is a MOCK draft, of course there is no way of telling who will be there,

Then why did you assume those players would be better value than anyone else if there is no way of telling who will be there ?? You make absolutely no sense..

If your quote is true, you just contradicted yourself with your earlier comment..

2: I have already explained my reasoning behind this a million times, not going to do it again

Yes, and a million times your reasoning has been flawed at best.

3: I didn't "buy into" any hype, what hype would there be if he fell off in the Senior Bowl?

If you look at his position over the years, the ones who have thrived in the sr bowl practices, have thrived in the NFL (the ones who came from smaller schools) .. That indeed does set a precedence, and shows a clear common denominator - which is something you unfortunately (in your analysis) overlook and choose to ignore..

4. Because Wes Weker, clearly the best WR on the team last year, was a "downfield speed" WR right? No, he was a possession WR and out most valuable receiver last year.

Again, you fail to look at the facts.. The reason why Miami traded Welker was because Miami is good at that position (without Welker)..

Furthermore, Cam has clearly indicated Chambers will be a slot receiver next yr (thus replacing Welker's spot) .. Which further confirms Miami is looking for an outside WR with speed ( in addition to Cam's comments about this is even further proof of that).. Something Gonzalez doesn't fit into.. You also overlook the fact Miami already has other options for the slot on the roster already (Hagan, Az-Hakim etc) ..

 

[Agent51]

Then why did you assume those players would be better value than anyone else if there is no way of telling who will be there ?? You make absolutely no sense..

If your quote is true, you just contradicted yourself with your earlier comment..

I like how you convieniently cut out the part of my comment that EXPLAINS this to you. Again, not sure what is so difficult to understand here. People called for more OLs early on. In my inital mock I had us taking one in round 3. However, I then traded the pick in the Washington deal, and didn't have a 3rd rounder to work with anymore, and I wasn't going to take the guy I had in the 3rd round with a round 2 pick, just to satisfy the need to "take an OL earley", because that would be a REACH. I already said my player pool and projections were set based on their average projected positions in NUMEROUS mocks. If a player is a round 3 projection, and you take him in round 2, that is a REACH.

When I made the picks for round 2, no OT or OG was a good fit value wise, based on the avergae draft projection, yet the players I DID have us choose WERE a good fit, just like in rounds 6 and 7 the OT and OG I have us taking were a good pick for the value, and there were no WRs or Ss that projected to be there at those spots, so they would have been reaches.

For the 3rd time, I fail to see why this is so confusing to you. And next time you quote me, don't edit my post and then ask me a question that I already answered but you just removed it.

 

[MastR_EvaluatoR]

For the 3rd time, I fail to see why this is so confusing to you.

You fail to see anything because you yourself is confused.. To think there will be reaches for O-line in earlier rounds is nothing more than conjecture on your part.. Especially since the weakest area on the team is O-line ..

Maybe this will help clear your confusion - Teams DO NOT wait till the 6th and 7th rounds to fix the weakest area of a team .. Bottomline.. Maybe you can wrap your head around that one and grasp it firmly..

And next time you quote me, don't edit my post and then ask me a question that I already answered but you just removed it.

No you didn't answer anything.. All you have been doing is contradicting yourself.