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Dimahnbloe

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Guys I have to admit something...
Before the season started and we had acquired Culpepper, I didn't think that he was that great of a QB.
Like many others, I assumed that Randy Moss was the man that made Culpeper who he was. Boy was I wrong...

Take from the game what you will, but this is what I saw...

I saw a QB who made some exceptional reads. While you guys were looking for down the field reads, I feel I was looking at the reads that were more important in this type of game, the ones he had to make with regards to the blitz. I saw a quaterback who effectively beat in your face blitzes where two or three defenders came at him so cleanely, I would have thought that it was a designed screen pass gone bad. This was done effectively for about three quarters. The man was uncanny at doing something that I have seen few quaterbacks do. He didn't just get rid of the ball when defenders came clean, he made them pay for it be getting the open reciever with some Fantastic, acurate throws while they were coming from the line of scrimage. You have to realize that these passes were not simply being thrown wildly to Half Backs while in desperation, they were quick tight perfect spirals that were thrown on the money by in my opinion, from what looked like a cool headed quarterback. The best part: the recievers did not have to break stride, therefore allowing some good yards after the catch. When I saw the defenders come free the first time, I thought it was a sack for sure, but then I found my self stunned and going no way does he do that again, that had to be luck, no way. But he did it again and again. Even thought we weren't moving the ball down the field on pitsburgh Defense, I had a smile on my face that I haven't had since the days of Danny and his quick release. And if you still don't see what I am trying to get accross, look at it this way. If it was Gus Ferrot, Jay Fiedler, or AJ Feeley in the pocket, they would have either been sacked at least 3-4 times that I counted in the first two quarters alone, or you would have seen some passes launched into the sidelines to avoid the sacks. How many sack saving throw away passes did you see thrown into the side lines??? But yet the stat still remains true: only one sack taken. Now that my friends, is Golden... And if you think this was all because of outstanding pass protection from our O-line then....

I saw a quarterback who had so much control over his passes that he could seemingly make the ball do what he wanted it to do even in mid air. I hope that I am not the only one who saw that throw to Welker where he pumped the ball so hard that I thought this dude was going to riffle it down field, but then out of nowhere the ball seemed to shift momentumn and then softly levitate out of his hand over a couple of defenders, right into the recievers hands in stride. Again, it was like watching the Matrix, that pass was so soft, so pretty, and so well timed that It made it seemed that the rest of the football field had stopped moving and all I could do was focus on it. If you guys can't tell, I am excited here. If that's not enough, did you see the pass that champers dropped in the endzone??? Laser fast, on the money, and only chambers could have made a play on it but yet it was perfect. I watched that replay multiple times, I could not believe how fast that ball got to it's destination, but yet how catcheable it was. Super Freaky...

I saw a quaterback who broke containment (scrambled out of the pocket) and hit marty booker for a 50 yarder while on the run. Now the distance of the play was not as important as what the play really meant to me. I had seen Mcnab do it in Philly and C-pep while in Minny, he bought enough time while scrambling to allow the reciever to get open and then made the perfect pass to him while on the run. No matter how good it is, pass defense could only hold up for so long, sooner or later there will be day light and when there is, it's generaly gapping holes like the one Marty found. Now we have seen Ferrot, Fiedler, and Feeley scramble but how many times did it end with those type of results?? More of those to come fellas... I could not be happier.

I also saw a quarter back who demonstrated great command and was able to get us down the field and into a First and Goal situation and still have 45 seconds on the clock. No timouts were used, and to top of, it all started with under two minutes til intermission to begin with. Again he was calm, cool, and collected through out the whole thing. Does this remind you of some special quarterbacks???

To finish with, I saw a qurterback out there that could have easily had close to a 400 yard performance against a Defense that was pretty much gunning for him the whole night. Say what you will, but not all defenses will be able to erase Ronnie Brown for a whole game. Most teams will have a tough day when facing this QB when he is armed with a running game. Another way to look at is that the Pittsburg Defense literally shut down Ronnie, Mcmicheal, Chambers and even booker (out of the game for a portion) and the Quarterback still got close to 300 hundred yards. And I Don't believe that they got their interceptions until we got desperate. To me, that says alot about the quarter back. As someone else pointed out in another thread there were alot of dropped, perfectly thrown passes out there today. I am salivating just thinking what he does when the offense is in full swing.

While some of you guys will sit on the fact that he launched some of the passes into the ground, I will take them for what they seemed to be to me: Rust. I am sorry fellas but I fully expected to see more of those than he actually threw. Think of it this way, I was so stoked and nervouse about this game that I almost couldn't eat today. This man had to play in it could you imagine how he must of felt? Then you add on top of that the fact that the man hasn't played a full football game in almost a year and you expect him to be perfect when the situation arises? Given the same circumstances do you think Marino or Elway would not have one or two sputter balls? If you don't think so then that's fine, but I choose to stay on the planet earth and know that no one is perfect especially under these circumstances... I guess this thread is for those that simply want to judge the man by what he did wrong and in the fourth quarter when we were desperate. You guys only choose to talk about bad so I will have done the polar opposite and only talked about the good.

Your comments are welcomed

Go Fish and Godspeed.
 
You my friend are a cup half-full kind of a guy, and this board could not need anything more right now.

Great points and observation. I think it's a little glossy as the picks did happen, but you make a valid point. . . . rust. It was going to happen for sure. And like you pointed out, he made some great reads on the blitzes early on, I definitely picked up on that.

Plus, I was angry at chambers for not catching that laser TD pass. And as you noted the pass to Welker was beautiful. As soon as I saw it released I uttered out 'touch,' it was a perfect pass.

Great post.
 
DiMahn,
There's going to be some great moments soon in Miami history with this guy at the helm. People don't realize he was playing against the best defense in the league. Period. In his first live real game in 11 months!!! if this were the Bills or Jets secondary he would have easily had 350-400 yards passing..it's incredible ppeople are down on this dude for one game. I'd be more pissed we let charlie batch score 3 tds!!!
 
my guess is chambers isn't used to having a ball thrown to him with that much velocity. he admitted as much during the probowl.
 
THrows were underthrown and off! I am not blaming PEP though.The D play calling is what cost us!!
 
Is it too much to ask to have a QB that can hold onto a 3 pt. lead instead of turning it into aa 11 pt. loss............................in 6 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Am I setting the bar too HIGH??? They should try some of those long passes in the 1'st half to get the recievers in synch for "Game winning" drives at the end of the game. Not "PANIC" mode
 
Dolphan5876 said:
Is it too much to ask to have a QB that can hold onto a 3 pt. lead instead of turning it into aa 11 pt. loss............................in 6 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Am I setting the bar too HIGH??? They should try some of those long passes in the 1'st half to get the recievers in synch for "Game winning" drives at the end of the game. Not "PANIC" mode

Would you rather us play Wanny-Ball and give the rock to Ronnie 3 consecutive times and try to punt to the moon?
 
PhinishLine said:
Would you rather us play Wanny-Ball and give the rock to Ronnie 3 consecutive times and try to punt to the moon?

Obviously not!! It didn't work in the 1'st half. As I said before. This is one of the games we were expected to lose, (not by me) I still see a 10 win season, but you need to open it up a lot sooner in the game and not wait till your in a situation like tyhe end of last nights game. "6 minutes" 14 points
 
Dolphan5876 said:
Is it too much to ask to have a QB that can hold onto a 3 pt. lead instead of turning it into aa 11 pt. loss............................in 6 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Am I setting the bar too HIGH??? They should try some of those long passes in the 1'st half to get the recievers in synch for "Game winning" drives at the end of the game. Not "PANIC" mode

is it to much to ask from the defense to keep a 3 point lead, when the opening drive starts from their own 12 yard line ??? they could have won the game for us if they forced a punt or even hold on 4th down
 
Al13 said:
is it to much to ask from the defense to keep a 3 point lead, when the opening drive starts from their own 12 yard line ??? they could have won the game for us if they forced a punt or even hold on 4th down

:yeahthat:
 
Dimahnbloe said:
Guys I have to admit something...
Before the season started and we had acquired Culpepper, I didn't think that he was that great of a QB.
Like many others, I assumed that Randy Moss was the man that made Culpeper who he was. Boy was I wrong...

Take from the game what you will, but this is what I saw...

I saw a QB who made some exceptional reads. While you guys were looking for down the field reads, I feel I was looking at the reads that were more important in this type of game, the ones he had to make with regards to the blitz. I saw a quaterback who effectively beat in your face blitzes where two or three defenders came at him so cleanely, I would have thought that it was a designed screen pass gone bad. This was done effectively for about three quarters. The man was uncanny at doing something that I have seen few quaterbacks do. He didn't just get rid of the ball when defenders came clean, he made them pay for it be getting the open reciever with some Fantastic, acurate throws while they were coming from the line of scrimage. You have to realize that these passes were not simply being thrown wildly to Half Backs while in desperation, they were quick tight perfect spirals that were thrown on the money by in my opinion, from what looked like a cool headed quarterback. The best part: the recievers did not have to break stride, therefore allowing some good yards after the catch. When I saw the defenders come free the first time, I thought it was a sack for sure, but then I found my self stunned and going no way does he do that again, that had to be luck, no way. But he did it again and again. Even thought we weren't moving the ball down the field on pitsburgh Defense, I had a smile on my face that I haven't had since the days of Danny and his quick release. And if you still don't see what I am trying to get accross, look at it this way. If it was Gus Ferrot, Jay Fiedler, or AJ Feeley in the pocket, they would have either been sacked at least 3-4 times that I counted in the first two quarters alone, or you would have seen some passes launched into the sidelines to avoid the sacks. How many sack saving throw away passes did you see thrown into the side lines??? But yet the stat still remains true: only one sack taken. Now that my friends, is Golden... And if you think this was all because of outstanding pass protection from our O-line then....

I saw a quarterback who had so much control over his passes that he could seemingly make the ball do what he wanted it to do even in mid air. I hope that I am not the only one who saw that throw to Welker where he pumped the ball so hard that I thought this dude was going to riffle it down field, but then out of nowhere the ball seemed to shift momentumn and then softly levitate out of his hand over a couple of defenders, right into the recievers hands in stride. Again, it was like watching the Matrix, that pass was so soft, so pretty, and so well timed that It made it seemed that the rest of the football field had stopped moving and all I could do was focus on it. If you guys can't tell, I am excited here. If that's not enough, did you see the pass that champers dropped in the endzone??? Laser fast, on the money, and only chambers could have made a play on it but yet it was perfect. I watched that replay multiple times, I could not believe how fast that ball got to it's destination, but yet how catcheable it was. Super Freaky...

I saw a quaterback who broke containment (scrambled out of the pocket) and hit marty booker for a 50 yarder while on the run. Now the distance of the play was not as important as what the play really meant to me. I had seen Mcnab do it in Philly and C-pep while in Minny, he bought enough time while scrambling to allow the reciever to get open and then made the perfect pass to him while on the run. No matter how good it is, pass defense could only hold up for so long, sooner or later there will be day light and when there is, it's generaly gapping holes like the one Marty found. Now we have seen Ferrot, Fiedler, and Feeley scramble but how many times did it end with those type of results?? More of those to come fellas... I could not be happier.

I also saw a quarter back who demonstrated great command and was able to get us down the field and into a First and Goal situation and still have 45 seconds on the clock. No timouts were used, and to top of, it all started with under two minutes til intermission to begin with. Again he was calm, cool, and collected through out the whole thing. Does this remind you of some special quarterbacks???

To finish with, I saw a qurterback out there that could have easily had close to a 400 yard performance against a Defense that was pretty much gunning for him the whole night. Say what you will, but not all defenses will be able to erase Ronnie Brown for a whole game. Most teams will have a tough day when facing this QB when he is armed with a running game. Another way to look at is that the Pittsburg Defense literally shut down Ronnie, Mcmicheal, Chambers and even booker (out of the game for a portion) and the Quarterback still got close to 300 hundred yards. And I Don't believe that they got their interceptions until we got desperate. To me, that says alot about the quarter back. As someone else pointed out in another thread there were alot of dropped, perfectly thrown passes out there today. I am salivating just thinking what he does when the offense is in full swing.

While some of you guys will sit on the fact that he launched some of the passes into the ground, I will take them for what they seemed to be to me: Rust. I am sorry fellas but I fully expected to see more of those than he actually threw. Think of it this way, I was so stoked and nervouse about this game that I almost couldn't eat today. This man had to play in it could you imagine how he must of felt? Then you add on top of that the fact that the man hasn't played a full football game in almost a year and you expect him to be perfect when the situation arises? Given the same circumstances do you think Marino or Elway would not have one or two sputter balls? If you don't think so then that's fine, but I choose to stay on the planet earth and know that no one is perfect especially under these circumstances... I guess this thread is for those that simply want to judge the man by what he did wrong and in the fourth quarter when we were desperate. You guys only choose to talk about bad so I will have done the polar opposite and only talked about the good.

Your comments are welcomed

Go Fish and Godspeed.

I saw a QB that couldn't hit any deep passes, couldn't get his team into the end zone, and that crumbled when it counted.
 
thanks for the nice read bro... I came on this site tonight looking for a little bit of upside to tonights debacle, and after MUCH searching... Finally, a breath of fresh air!
 
Phanatical said:
I saw a QB that couldn't hit any deep passes, couldn't get his team into the end zone, and that crumbled when it counted.

Then you were looking through tainted eyes. :shakeno:
 
ILfinfan85 said:
THrows were underthrown and off! I am not blaming PEP though.The D play calling is what cost us!!

As I said, to each his own. You can take whatever you like out of the game, but what I saw was a quarterback that showed promise and did alot more good than bad. I guess you could measure a quarterback by only the end result of the game and the bad plays that were made, but if that were the case then every quarter back in the league sucks. Because when you examine the full compliment of passes attempted, you will almost always find passes that can be described like you've done above. Not all of his passes were like that.
 
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