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Coach Saban continues to explain the teams misfortunes are related to lack of execution and mental errors.
Clearly the man is speaking the truth.

Everything else written here and spoken by our local talking heads is simply emotionally charged hot air.

Until this team eliminates these errors they will continue to struggle.

To be sure, there were other execution issues but these were IMHO the most critical.


Offense
1. Turnover. Ronnie Brown fumble resulting in NE FG
2. Justin Peele Holding penalty resulting in nullified Booker TD
3. Lonnie Shelton False Start penalty on 3rd and 5 (-5 yards)
4. Turnover. Joey Harrington Interception
5. Jeno James False Start penalty on 2nd and 10 (-5 yards)
6. Jeno James Holding penalty on 2nd and 3 (-10 yards)
7. Wes Welker False Start penalty on 2nd and 13 (-5 yards)
8. Ronnie Brown failed reception on 2nd and 5 for what would have been a FD
9. Turnover. Joey Harrington Interception

Defense
10. Will Allen PI penalty on 3rd and 8 (-25 yards)
11. Dan Wilkinson Holding penalty on 1st and 10 resulting in FD. (-5 yards)

Teams
12. Olindo Mare slipped during FG attempt resulting in a blocked FG
13. Justin Peele and Keith Adams penalties during Punt Return. (-10 yards)
14. Failed Punt. John Denney high snap and Donnie Jones drop. (-26 yards)
15. Olindo Mare slipped during FG attempt resulting in failed FG
 
I agree. 15 plays with inexcusable mistakes. That's why we lost and that's why we're 1-4
 
I agree that execution is the biggest problem. Harrington got rid of the ball quickly. And Mularky called Ronnie's number a decent number of time, even though I would have liked a few more carries. The line is giving Ronnie little room to run. And Ronnie is dancing a little bit when he can actually get to the line of scrimmage. It seems like we have to run short routes because we know the offensive line can't block for too long. There were a ton of penalties today and the turnovers really hurt. Those are execution problems. The defense did a really good job of stopping a good running game. They didn't give up the big plays in the secondary other than a slightly questionable pass interfernce call. We can't continue to blitz and leave our secondary in one on one coverage. They aren't good enough to cover one on one. Zach Thomas needs to never be in one on one coverage because he gets burned absolutely every time. I think we need to sit in more zones instead of continuing to blitz ineffectively. If we execute better on offense, we wouldn't put the defense in such poor positions. They did a good job of trying to hold the Pats to 3 points after turnovers in our own territory. Execution on every single part of the team: coaching, play-calling, QB, RB, Oline, WR, secondary; all must improve.
 
It was a winnable game. Eliminate the mistakes (NE scored 17 off TOs), and this is a 10-3 win, at worst.
 
Overlooking all the rest .... 3 Turnovers and 2 missed FGs = a LOSS against most anyone.

The positives out of this game is that the DEFENSE played well [albeit, against a very weak NE Offense] .. and the OFFENSE moved the ball fairly well up and down the field.

This team is clearly NOT good enough to overcome turnovers and missed point opportunities ....

I'd take my chances with this same lineup for the next 2 weeks against NYJ and GB .... and reassess during the break ...

Maybe CULPEPPER can work on the mental aspects and progressions while getting a month off ....
 
Phinanthropist said:
Coach Saban continues to explain the teams misfortunes are related to lack of execution and mental errors. Clearly the man is speaking the truth.

Everything else written here and spoken by our local talking heads is simply emotionally charged hot air.

Until this team eliminates these errors they will continue to struggle.

To be sure, there were other execution issues but these were IMHO the most critical.


Offense
1. Turnover. Ronnie Brown fumble resulting in NE FG
2. Justin Peele Holding penalty resulting in nullified Booker TD
3. Lonnie Shelton False Start penalty on 3rd and 5 (-5 yards)
4. Turnover. Joey Harrington Interception
5. Jeno James False Start penalty on 2nd and 10 (-5 yards)
6. Jeno James Holding penalty on 2nd and 3 (-10 yards)
7. Wes Welker False Start penalty on 2nd and 13 (-5 yards)
8. Ronnie Brown failed reception on 2nd and 5 for what would have been a FD
9. Turnover. Joey Harrington Interception

Defense
10. Will Allen PI penalty on 3rd and 8 on (-25 yards)
11. Dan Wilkinson Holding penalty on 1st and 10 resulting in FD. (-5 yards)

Teams
12. Olindo Mare slipped during FG attempt resulting in a blocked FG
13. Justin Peele and Keith Adams penalties during Punt Return. (-10 yards)
14. Failed Punt. John Denney high snap and Donnie Jones drop. (-26 yards)
15. Olindo Mare slipped during FG attempt resulting in failed FG
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As head coach I would expect Saban to say this...after all, it HAS to be "mental errors" and "lack of execution" doesn't it? Otherwise the finger might be pointed, oh I don't know, at HIM and his staff?

Penalties can and should be corrected by the COACHING STAFF. Most coaches will take responsibility for having their teams mentally prepared to play the game. I'd like to see Saban & Co. own some of these losses. He doesn't get to be a "brilliant tactician" and a "first rate motivator" during the 6 game winning streak and then blame the 1-4 start on "mental errors and execution." It doesn't work that way.

My high school coach shared this philosophy. He made us run from the bottom to the top of our stadium's bleachers and back again once for every penalty yard a player caused on our team. It didn't take us long to learn to eliminate the "mental errors" and play good team football.
 
I agree. 15 plays with inexcusable mistakes. That's why we lost and that's why we're 1-4
 
Phinanthropist said:
Coach Saban continues to explain the teams misfortunes are related to lack of execution and mental errors. Clearly the man is speaking the truth.

Everything else written here and spoken by our local talking heads is simply emotionally charged hot air.

Until this team eliminates these errors they will continue to struggle.

To be sure, there were other execution issues but these were IMHO the most critical.


Offense
1. Turnover. Ronnie Brown fumble resulting in NE FG
2. Justin Peele Holding penalty resulting in nullified Booker TD
3. Lonnie Shelton False Start penalty on 3rd and 5 (-5 yards)
4. Turnover. Joey Harrington Interception
5. Jeno James False Start penalty on 2nd and 10 (-5 yards)
6. Jeno James Holding penalty on 2nd and 3 (-10 yards)
7. Wes Welker False Start penalty on 2nd and 13 (-5 yards)
8. Ronnie Brown failed reception on 2nd and 5 for what would have been a FD
9. Turnover. Joey Harrington Interception

Defense
10. Will Allen PI penalty on 3rd and 8 on (-25 yards)
11. Dan Wilkinson Holding penalty on 1st and 10 resulting in FD. (-5 yards)

Teams
12. Olindo Mare slipped during FG attempt resulting in a blocked FG
13. Justin Peele and Keith Adams penalties during Punt Return. (-10 yards)
14. Failed Punt. John Denney high snap and Donnie Jones drop. (-26 yards)
15. Olindo Mare slipped during FG attempt resulting in failed FG
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OUTSTANDING POST..VERY WELL SAID...THANK YOU:boohoo:
 
TVs Soupy Sales said:
As head coach I would expect Saban to say this...after all, it HAS to be "mental errors" and "lack of execution" doesn't it? Otherwise the finger might be pointed, oh I don't know, at HIM and his staff?

Penalties can and should be corrected by the COACHING STAFF. Most coaches will take responsibility for having their teams mentally prepared to play the game. I'd like to see Saban & Co. own some of these losses. He doesn't get to be a "brilliant tactician" and a "first rate motivator" during the 6 game winning streak and then blame the 1-4 start on "mental errors and execution." It doesn't work that way.

My high school coach shared this philosophy. He made us run from the bottom to the top of our stadium's bleachers and back again once for every penalty yard a player caused on our team. It didn't take us long to learn to eliminate the "mental errors" and play good team football.
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Sorry man, that is BS. You are playing a very intense game in a hostile environment on the road against a super rival and excellent team. All the coaching in the world wont help if guys are making mistakes like that. I know people say, these guys need to be coached not to make penalties . . . wtf u want, the coach to be on the line. If the guys on the line don't execute properly before the snap, than thats what its gonna be. It really wasn't even that bad today with false starts, especially considering the environment.
 
I think we looked alot better today than we have in past weeks. Ther most important improvement was being able to sustain drives and give our defense a rest. I'm still disappointed in the run blocking. Brown is still having to make his own holes. Pass blocking was alot better. With that extra rest, the defense played excellent, PI penalty aside. The play calling was much better today as well. Obviously I not happy that we lost, but I'm encouraged by what I saw out there today. The intensity level was much better.

I'm looking forward to a very winable game next week against the Jests.
 
i agree with this threads' assessment. errors in execution are a huge problem with this team. the turnovers alone, not just having them but where on the field and at crucial points of the contest, cost us this game, forget the other mistakes on the list. i saw improvement in some areas and will try to start a thread on those, but i totally agree with this thread, its a shame
 
Kdawg954 said:
Sorry man, that is BS. You are playing a very intense game in a hostile environment on the road against a super rival and excellent team. All the coaching in the world wont help if guys are making mistakes like that. I know people say, these guys need to be coached not to make penalties . . . wtf u want, the coach to be on the line. If the guys on the line don't execute properly before the snap, than thats what its gonna be. It really wasn't even that bad today with false starts, especially considering the environment.
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Based on this logic there is no point in even having a coach at all! After all, these guys are "professionals" right? They have been playing football for years, and they are the "best of the best" so they should be able to just go out there and execute without the need for guidance whatsoever! Talk about BS...

Ask any NFL talking head or sportswriter what they consider the characteristics of a "well coached team" to be and invariably they will likely say that one sign of it is a team that does not commit stupid penalties and "mental mistakes."

I will be the first to agree with you that the coach cannot play the game for the players, and that the players have to execute in order to be successful, but to hold the coaching staff blameless when this team makes the same stupid mistakes week after week is sheer folly.
 
Ive always said it's difficult to examine effectiveness of play calling when our players make so many mistakes. Its almost like you wait for something to blow up on us. One step forward to steps back sort of thing.
Welker again a bright spot. Harrington played well... I was impressed with the time he had.. and the way he moved around the pocket...
But we could've been in that game... If mare had made those 2 FGs it may have teken on a different complexion...Ronnie Brown is turning into a fumbling machine... Oh Brother!
Defence player their hearts out... keeping NE to just 20 after what they did to the Bengals... I tip my hat.
But our offense... only ten measley points.... why cant we execute?
 
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