Dolfansal
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This is the last game of yet again a disappointing season. I really thought this would be our year. I am a 34 year old fan living in New York and I want to know when is it going to be our time. When are we all going to feel what these other fans take for granted every year?
In the last 26 years of enjoying football I have seen us go to and lose 2 super bowls, had a great time watching Dan lead our offense, and have been sick to my stomach for the last decade. Our team has become the joke of the NFL. When I was growing up it was always fun to play teams like the bengals and cardinals. We have now become one of those teams.
Do you all believe that for most of the last decade our team has been led by Jay Fiedler, Damon Huard, Ray Lucas, Sage Rosenfels, Brian Griese, A.J. Feeley and Gus Frerotte. Find me another team that has had a worse group of quarterbacks than list list.
Oh well, we go into another offseason with the hope that we can find the right players to make it all better. I just want to know when.
Since 1998 our drafts have been a joke! You would think that we could of found more talent using a ouija board. I highlighted the good picks in red. Notice there is not much red!!!!!!!!
1998 1a TO GREEN BAY in '98 trade-down (19) 1b John Avery (29) RB Mississippi (from Green Bay in '98 trade-down) 2a Patrick Surtain (44) CB Southern Miss. (from Carolina for 1st-round pick in 2000) 2b Kenny Mixon (49) DE LSU2c TO DETROIT in '98 trade-down (60) (from Green Bay in '98 trade-down) 3a Brad Jackson (79) LB Cincinnati (from Detroit in '98 trade-down) 3b x-Larry Shannon (82) WR East Carolina4a Lorenzo Bromell (102) DE Clemson (from Philadelphia in '98 trade-up) 4b TO PHILADELPHIA in '98 trade-up (112) 5a TO PHILADELPHIA in '98 trade-up (142) 5b Scott Shaw (143) G Michigan State (from Detroit in '98 trade-down) 6a Nathan Strikwerda (171) C Northwestern6b John Dutton (172) QB Nevada (from Detroit in '98 trade-down) 7 Jim Bundren (210) G Clemson
1999 1a TO SAN FRANCISCO in '99 draft trade-down (24) 1b TO DETROIT in '99 draft trade-down (27) 2a J.J. Johnson (39) RB Mississippi State (from Detroit in '99 draft trade-down) 2b Rob Konrad (43) FB Syracuse (from Kansas City in '99 draft trade-up) 2c TO KANSAS CITY in '99 draft trade-up (54) 3a TO DETROIT in '99 draft trade-down (70) (from Detroit in '99 draft trade-down) 3b x-Grey Ruegamer (72) C Arizona State (from Detroit in '99 draft trade-down) 3c TO KANSAS CITY in '99 draft trade-up (84) 4 TO MINNESOTA for signing TE Hunter Goodwin (120) 5a Cecil Collins (134) RB McNeese State (from San Francisco in '99 draft trade-down) 5b Bryan Jones (142) LB Oregon State (from Detroit in '99 draft trade-down) 5c TO SAN FRANCISCO for G Kevin Gogan (157) 6 Brent Bartholomew (192) P Ohio State7a TO N.Y. GIANTS for RB Tyrone Wheatley (231) 7b y-Jermaine Haley (232) DT Butte College (from Detroit in '99 draft trade-down) 7c z-Joe Wong (244) T Brigham Young (compensatory pick from NFL)2000 1 TO CAROLINA in '98 draft trade-up (23) 2 Todd Wade (53) T Mississippi3 Ben Kelly (84) CB Colorado4 Deon Dyer (117) FB North Carolina5 Arturo Freeman (152) S South Carolina6a Ernest Grant (167) DT Arkansas-Pine Bluff (from Cleveland for RB Karim Abdul-Jabbar) 6b TO KANSAS CITY in '99 draft trade-down (188) 7a TO SAN FRANCISCO for QB Jim Druckenmiller (230) 7b x-Jeff Harris (232) CB Georgia (from Chicago for P Brent Bartholomew) x-injured reserve '00
2001 1 Jamar Fletcher (26) CB Wisconsin2a Chris Chambers (52) WR Wisconsin (from Indianapolis through Dallas in '01 draft trade-up) 2b TO DALLAS in '01 draft trade-up (56) 3a Travis Minor (85) RB Florida State3b Morlon Greenwood (88) LB Syracuse (from Philadelphia in '01 draft trade-up) 4 TO DALLAS in '01 draft trade-up (122) 5 Shawn Draper (156) T Alabama6a Brandon Winey (164) T Louisiana State (from San Diego for WR Nate Jacquet) 6b Josh Heupel (177) QB Oklahoma (from Washington for DT Barron Tanner) 6c Otis Leverette (187) DE Alabama-Birmingham (from Philadelphia in '01 draft trade-up) 6d Rick Crowell (188) LB Colorado State7a TO CHICAGO for TE Alonzo Mayes (208) (from Chicago for P Brent Bartholomew) 7b TO WASHINGTON for P Matt Turk (224)
2002 1 TO NEW ORLEANS in RB Ricky Williams deal (25) 2 TO PHILADELPHIA in '01 draft trade-up (59) 3 Seth McKinney (90) C Texas A&M4a Randy McMichael (114) TE Georgia (from New Orleans in RB Ricky Williams deal) 4b TO NEW ORLEANS in RB Ricky Williams deal (125) TE Georgia5a Omare Lowe (161) CB Washington5b Sam Simmons (170) WR Northwestern (compensatory pick from NFL) 6 to Chicago in QB Cade McNown deal (199) 7a TO DALLAS for WR Jeff Ogden (237) 7b Leonard Henry (241) RB East Carolina (from Chicago in QB Cade McNown deal)
2003 1 TO NEW ORLEANS in RB Ricky Williams deal (18) 2 Eddie Moore (49) LB Tennessee 3a Wade Smith (78) T Memphis (from New England for 2nd-round pick in 2004) 3b Taylor Whitley (87) G Texas A&M 4 TO CAROLINA for DE Jay Williams (119) 5a Donald Lee (156) TE Mississippi State 5b J.R. Tolver (169) WR San Diego State (compensatory pick from NFL) 6a Corey Jenkins (181) LB South Carolina (from Carolina in draft day trade-up) 6b TO CHICAGO in QB Cade McNown deal (191) 6c Tim Provost (209) T San Jose State (compensatory pick from NFL) 6d Yeremiah Bell (213) S Eastern Kentucky (compensatory pick from NFL) 7a TO CAROLINA in draft day trade-up (226) (from Washington for DT Jermaine Haley) 7b TO WASHINGTON for QB Sage Rosenfels (232) 7c TO CAROLINA in draft day trade-up (247) (from Tampa Bay for T Cornell Green) 7d Davern Williams (248) DT Troy State (compensatory pick from NFL)
2004 1a Vernon Carey (19) G/T Miami (Fla.) (from Minnesota in 2004 draft trade-up) 1b TO MINNESOTA in 2004 draft trade-up (20) 2 TO NEW ENGLAND for 3rd-round pick in 2004 (56) 3 TO GREEN BAY in 2004 draft trade-down (87) 4a Will Poole (102) CB USC (from Green Bay in 2004 draft trade-down) 4b TO MINNESOTA in 2004 draft trade-up (119) 5a TO BALTIMORE in 2004 draft trade-down (153) (from Green Bay in 2004 draft trade-down) 5b TO SAN DIEGO for LB Junior Seau (154) 5c Tony Bua (160) LB Arkansas (from Baltimore in 2004 draft trade-down) 6a Rex Hadnot (174) C Houston (from Atlanta in 2004 draft trade-up) 6b TO ATLANTA in 2004 draft trade-up (186) 7a TO ATLANTA in 2004 draft trade-up (219) (from New Orleans for LB Derrick Rodgers) 7b Tony Pape (221) T Michigan7c Derrick Pope (222) LB Alabama (from Baltimore in 2004 draft trade-down)
2005 1 Ronnie Brown (2) RB Auburn2a TO PHILADELPHIA for QB A.J. Feeley (35) 2b Matt Roth (46) DE Iowa (from Kansas City in CB Patrick Surtain deal) 3a TO ST. LOUIS for RB Lamar Gordon (66) 3b Channing Crowder (70) LB Florida (from Chicago in Booker-Ogunleye deal) 4 Travis Daniels (104) CB LSU5a TO KANSAS CITY in CB Patrick Surtain deal (138) 5b Anthony Alabi (162) T TCU (from Kansas City in CB Patrick Surtain deal) 6 TO SAN DIEGO in WR David Boston deal (177) 7 x-Kevin Vickerson (216) DT Michigan State 2006 1 Jason Allen (16) S Tennessee2 TO MINNESOTA for QB Daunte Culpepper (51) 3 Derek Hagan (82) WR Arizona State4 Joe Toledo (114) T Washington5 Exercised in 2005 supplemental draft for DT Manny Wright (149) 6 TO SAN DIEGO in QB Cleo Lemon-QB A.J. Feeley trade (188) 7a Frederick Evans (212) DT Texas State (from Green Bay in G Brad Bedell trade) 7b Rodrique Wright (226) DT Texas7c Devin Aromashodu (233) WR Auburn (from Chicago in TE John Owens-LB Brendan Ayanbadejo trade)
In the last 26 years of enjoying football I have seen us go to and lose 2 super bowls, had a great time watching Dan lead our offense, and have been sick to my stomach for the last decade. Our team has become the joke of the NFL. When I was growing up it was always fun to play teams like the bengals and cardinals. We have now become one of those teams.
Do you all believe that for most of the last decade our team has been led by Jay Fiedler, Damon Huard, Ray Lucas, Sage Rosenfels, Brian Griese, A.J. Feeley and Gus Frerotte. Find me another team that has had a worse group of quarterbacks than list list.
Oh well, we go into another offseason with the hope that we can find the right players to make it all better. I just want to know when.
Since 1998 our drafts have been a joke! You would think that we could of found more talent using a ouija board. I highlighted the good picks in red. Notice there is not much red!!!!!!!!
1998 1a TO GREEN BAY in '98 trade-down (19) 1b John Avery (29) RB Mississippi (from Green Bay in '98 trade-down) 2a Patrick Surtain (44) CB Southern Miss. (from Carolina for 1st-round pick in 2000) 2b Kenny Mixon (49) DE LSU2c TO DETROIT in '98 trade-down (60) (from Green Bay in '98 trade-down) 3a Brad Jackson (79) LB Cincinnati (from Detroit in '98 trade-down) 3b x-Larry Shannon (82) WR East Carolina4a Lorenzo Bromell (102) DE Clemson (from Philadelphia in '98 trade-up) 4b TO PHILADELPHIA in '98 trade-up (112) 5a TO PHILADELPHIA in '98 trade-up (142) 5b Scott Shaw (143) G Michigan State (from Detroit in '98 trade-down) 6a Nathan Strikwerda (171) C Northwestern6b John Dutton (172) QB Nevada (from Detroit in '98 trade-down) 7 Jim Bundren (210) G Clemson
1999 1a TO SAN FRANCISCO in '99 draft trade-down (24) 1b TO DETROIT in '99 draft trade-down (27) 2a J.J. Johnson (39) RB Mississippi State (from Detroit in '99 draft trade-down) 2b Rob Konrad (43) FB Syracuse (from Kansas City in '99 draft trade-up) 2c TO KANSAS CITY in '99 draft trade-up (54) 3a TO DETROIT in '99 draft trade-down (70) (from Detroit in '99 draft trade-down) 3b x-Grey Ruegamer (72) C Arizona State (from Detroit in '99 draft trade-down) 3c TO KANSAS CITY in '99 draft trade-up (84) 4 TO MINNESOTA for signing TE Hunter Goodwin (120) 5a Cecil Collins (134) RB McNeese State (from San Francisco in '99 draft trade-down) 5b Bryan Jones (142) LB Oregon State (from Detroit in '99 draft trade-down) 5c TO SAN FRANCISCO for G Kevin Gogan (157) 6 Brent Bartholomew (192) P Ohio State7a TO N.Y. GIANTS for RB Tyrone Wheatley (231) 7b y-Jermaine Haley (232) DT Butte College (from Detroit in '99 draft trade-down) 7c z-Joe Wong (244) T Brigham Young (compensatory pick from NFL)2000 1 TO CAROLINA in '98 draft trade-up (23) 2 Todd Wade (53) T Mississippi3 Ben Kelly (84) CB Colorado4 Deon Dyer (117) FB North Carolina5 Arturo Freeman (152) S South Carolina6a Ernest Grant (167) DT Arkansas-Pine Bluff (from Cleveland for RB Karim Abdul-Jabbar) 6b TO KANSAS CITY in '99 draft trade-down (188) 7a TO SAN FRANCISCO for QB Jim Druckenmiller (230) 7b x-Jeff Harris (232) CB Georgia (from Chicago for P Brent Bartholomew) x-injured reserve '00
2001 1 Jamar Fletcher (26) CB Wisconsin2a Chris Chambers (52) WR Wisconsin (from Indianapolis through Dallas in '01 draft trade-up) 2b TO DALLAS in '01 draft trade-up (56) 3a Travis Minor (85) RB Florida State3b Morlon Greenwood (88) LB Syracuse (from Philadelphia in '01 draft trade-up) 4 TO DALLAS in '01 draft trade-up (122) 5 Shawn Draper (156) T Alabama6a Brandon Winey (164) T Louisiana State (from San Diego for WR Nate Jacquet) 6b Josh Heupel (177) QB Oklahoma (from Washington for DT Barron Tanner) 6c Otis Leverette (187) DE Alabama-Birmingham (from Philadelphia in '01 draft trade-up) 6d Rick Crowell (188) LB Colorado State7a TO CHICAGO for TE Alonzo Mayes (208) (from Chicago for P Brent Bartholomew) 7b TO WASHINGTON for P Matt Turk (224)
2002 1 TO NEW ORLEANS in RB Ricky Williams deal (25) 2 TO PHILADELPHIA in '01 draft trade-up (59) 3 Seth McKinney (90) C Texas A&M4a Randy McMichael (114) TE Georgia (from New Orleans in RB Ricky Williams deal) 4b TO NEW ORLEANS in RB Ricky Williams deal (125) TE Georgia5a Omare Lowe (161) CB Washington5b Sam Simmons (170) WR Northwestern (compensatory pick from NFL) 6 to Chicago in QB Cade McNown deal (199) 7a TO DALLAS for WR Jeff Ogden (237) 7b Leonard Henry (241) RB East Carolina (from Chicago in QB Cade McNown deal)
2003 1 TO NEW ORLEANS in RB Ricky Williams deal (18) 2 Eddie Moore (49) LB Tennessee 3a Wade Smith (78) T Memphis (from New England for 2nd-round pick in 2004) 3b Taylor Whitley (87) G Texas A&M 4 TO CAROLINA for DE Jay Williams (119) 5a Donald Lee (156) TE Mississippi State 5b J.R. Tolver (169) WR San Diego State (compensatory pick from NFL) 6a Corey Jenkins (181) LB South Carolina (from Carolina in draft day trade-up) 6b TO CHICAGO in QB Cade McNown deal (191) 6c Tim Provost (209) T San Jose State (compensatory pick from NFL) 6d Yeremiah Bell (213) S Eastern Kentucky (compensatory pick from NFL) 7a TO CAROLINA in draft day trade-up (226) (from Washington for DT Jermaine Haley) 7b TO WASHINGTON for QB Sage Rosenfels (232) 7c TO CAROLINA in draft day trade-up (247) (from Tampa Bay for T Cornell Green) 7d Davern Williams (248) DT Troy State (compensatory pick from NFL)
2004 1a Vernon Carey (19) G/T Miami (Fla.) (from Minnesota in 2004 draft trade-up) 1b TO MINNESOTA in 2004 draft trade-up (20) 2 TO NEW ENGLAND for 3rd-round pick in 2004 (56) 3 TO GREEN BAY in 2004 draft trade-down (87) 4a Will Poole (102) CB USC (from Green Bay in 2004 draft trade-down) 4b TO MINNESOTA in 2004 draft trade-up (119) 5a TO BALTIMORE in 2004 draft trade-down (153) (from Green Bay in 2004 draft trade-down) 5b TO SAN DIEGO for LB Junior Seau (154) 5c Tony Bua (160) LB Arkansas (from Baltimore in 2004 draft trade-down) 6a Rex Hadnot (174) C Houston (from Atlanta in 2004 draft trade-up) 6b TO ATLANTA in 2004 draft trade-up (186) 7a TO ATLANTA in 2004 draft trade-up (219) (from New Orleans for LB Derrick Rodgers) 7b Tony Pape (221) T Michigan7c Derrick Pope (222) LB Alabama (from Baltimore in 2004 draft trade-down)
2005 1 Ronnie Brown (2) RB Auburn2a TO PHILADELPHIA for QB A.J. Feeley (35) 2b Matt Roth (46) DE Iowa (from Kansas City in CB Patrick Surtain deal) 3a TO ST. LOUIS for RB Lamar Gordon (66) 3b Channing Crowder (70) LB Florida (from Chicago in Booker-Ogunleye deal) 4 Travis Daniels (104) CB LSU5a TO KANSAS CITY in CB Patrick Surtain deal (138) 5b Anthony Alabi (162) T TCU (from Kansas City in CB Patrick Surtain deal) 6 TO SAN DIEGO in WR David Boston deal (177) 7 x-Kevin Vickerson (216) DT Michigan State 2006 1 Jason Allen (16) S Tennessee2 TO MINNESOTA for QB Daunte Culpepper (51) 3 Derek Hagan (82) WR Arizona State4 Joe Toledo (114) T Washington5 Exercised in 2005 supplemental draft for DT Manny Wright (149) 6 TO SAN DIEGO in QB Cleo Lemon-QB A.J. Feeley trade (188) 7a Frederick Evans (212) DT Texas State (from Green Bay in G Brad Bedell trade) 7b Rodrique Wright (226) DT Texas7c Devin Aromashodu (233) WR Auburn (from Chicago in TE John Owens-LB Brendan Ayanbadejo trade)