Any body else here what he said about Saban?

[67Stang]

On ESPN after the SC/ Iowa game, they were talking about College coaches going to the NFL. The black dude (Mark Kellog I think) to the right of Lou Holtz said Saban was a good NFL coach, who righted the ship of the Miami Dolphins but chose to persue his college passion. I almost threw up. WTF is he thinking?

 

[SRM]

Righted ..? Far from, him leaving us was probably the best thing to happen, so Cam could completely drive us to the ground, and get us resurrected by Parcells

 

[abNORMal]

Is that not true????

:mike13::gonzo::dancing::loco::bs::woohoo::sidelol:

 

[CedarPhin]

Mark May is a buffoon

 

[SpaceMountain16]

I'm not sure he "righted" the ship but he did provide a LITTLE stability. I think Saban was/would have turned out to be a college coach. It's easy to call these college coaches failures when they step in to takeover mediocre/poor teams fail to do anything with them in their first season and then go back to college.

 

[hellsapoppin]

Righted ..? Far from, him leaving us was probably the best thing to happen, so Cam could completely drive us to the ground, and get us resurrected by Parcells

Just goes to show you everything happens for a reason...

 

[Metal Panda]

On ESPN after the SC/ Iowa game, they were talking about College coaches going to the NFL. The black dude (Mark Kellog I think) to the right of Lou Holtz said Saba was a good NFL coach, who righted the ship of the Miami Dolphins but chose to persue his college passion. I almost threw up. WTF is he thinking?

I always thought the truth about Saban lay somewhere in the middle. The media and the general population seemed to fluctuate on Saban's ability in the 2005, which not so surprisingly fluctuated the same way the team's win-loss record did. He did achieve a lot in 2005 with a team that was supposed to struggle, but...he had more weapons than Sparano did.

What Saban did for the short term, however, really short-changed the long term. He left behind an extremely old, declining defensive line, retreads on the offensive line, and a pastiche of mediocre defensive backs (with a few diamonds). Not to mention no solution at quarterback, and a wasted 2006 draft.

He definitely didn't right the ship. Saban leaves or not, 2007 was going to be a long year. (Just shouldn't have been 1-15 bad).

 

[Metal Panda]

I'm not sure he "righted" the ship but he did provide a LITTLE stability. I think Saban was/would have turned out to be a college coach. It's easy to call these college coaches failures when they step in to takeover mediocre/poor teams fail to do anything with them in their first season and then go back to college.

He lasted two seasons, not one. I don't think the argument is that he's a failure, moreso that he didn't 'right' any ship prior to departing the Dolphins on his own will.

 

[67Stang]

I'm not sure he "righted" the ship but he did provide a LITTLE stability. I think Saban was/would have turned out to be a college coach. It's easy to call these college coaches failures when they step in to takeover mediocre/poor teams fail to do anything with them in their first season and then go back to college.

We got slightly better the first year, then really started to tumble the second. His drafts sucked (continueing that streak). We go after C-pep instead of Breese. He was an a-hole to the media, a freaking liar to boot. In no way did he provide stability or improve us 1 single bit.

 

[Metal Panda]

To be fair, Drew Brees failed the Miami Dolphins physical, and media reports that were coming out shortly before the season started suggested Brees' rehab was not going so well. The fact that it turned out that he was more than ok wasn't completely obvious to everyone. This is an example of hindsight at 20/20.

 

[SpaceMountain16]

He lasted two seasons, not one. I don't think the argument is that he's a failure, moreso that he didn't 'right' any ship prior to departing the Dolphins on his own will.

Yeah i know, i'm talking about a lot of college guys in general though. I think a failure is a guy like Steve Spurrier, who was there (in DC) several seasons and really couldn't get anything done. Couldn't get the right personnel to run his heralded offense. Another guy might be Bobby Petrino, who just flat out quit.

 

[67Stang]

To be fair, Drew Brees failed the Miami Dolphins physical, and media reports that were coming out shortly before the season started suggested Brees' rehab was not going so well. The fact that it turned out that he was more than ok wasn't completely obvious to everyone. This is an example of hindsight at 20/20.

You would think a good evaluation person could have picked up his inability to read a defense in a timely fassion after all the film on him in Minn. It has all worked out, I wouldn't trade this fairy tell ending with Penny going to NY and winning, which would not have happened if we got Brees.

 

[Metal Panda]

That's more of a NFL wide epidemic than in college. NFL owners don't give coaches enough time to build anything anymore. Because of all of the "worst to first" stories, owners foolishly believe a good coach will generate immediate results.

 

[The Ghost]

Saban would've turned out to be a pretty damn good NFL coach if not for his paranoid schizophrenia.

 

[Metal Panda]

You would think a good evaluation person could have picked up his inability to read a defense in a timely fassion after all the film on him in Minn. It has all worked out, I wouldn't trade this fairy tell ending with Penny going to NY and winning, which would not have happened if we got Brees.

Let's be fair, though. There was far more of a frenzied reaction to the Daunte trade in these parts than there was criticism. Oh, there were definitely naysayers on Finheaven, but the board was littered with excited posts and people (me being one of them, sadly) running out to buy his jerseys.

I even remember a thread (I'll have to find it) where we were taunting Saints fans boasting Brees was less further along in his rehab than Daunte.