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Are we in a worse place than 3 years ago when we hired Flo?

Are we better now then 3 years ago when we hired Flo?

  • We are better

    Votes: 11 31.4%

  • We are worse

    Votes: 7 20.0%

  • We are about the same

    Votes: 13 37.1%

  • Just fire Flo

    Votes: 4 11.4%
  • Total voters
    35
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I wasn't a big fan of the hire 3 years ago.
Then they started off loosing by double digits in the first few games of Flo's first season.
I thought we were doomed. Then we started winning. Last year he showed that he can actually compete with other coaches . And started showing some promise.
Then the Bills game where we got spanked got me worried. Now this horrendous start to the season has me gravely concerned for this team's future.
We are no better now than we were 3 years ago.
 
I think as far as pure talent, this team is much better.

What sucks is our gameplans. Even Gase and Philbin, who failed here, had a gameplan each week and you could point at what we were trying to attack.

With this team, especially this year, I can't even tell you what we are trying to do each week 9ffensively in hindsight.

Couple that with our defense basically giving the same looks 3 seasons in a row....plus bad talent development at most positions and bam.

That said I will repeat I think we have better talent.
 
I wasn't a big fan of the hire 3 years ago.
Then they started off loosing by double digits in the first few games of Flo's first season.I thought we were doomed.
Then we started winning. Last year he showed that he can actually compete with other coaches and won us 10 games. And he started showing some promise.
Then the Bills game where we got spanked got me worried. Now this horrendous start to the season has me gravely concerned for this team's future.
We are no better now than we were 3 years ago.
 
We are worse off in the sense that our fans are getting older and some of them died before watching this garbage get turned around. Many more will probably do so.

We're better off in the sense that George Costanza finally made it to the top of the organizational chart and there's no one left to take a bullet for him.
 
I wouldn't necessarily say yes but its up for debate. I can look to the team now and see some places with some real talent if we can put it in position for success, but the reason why its up for debate is that we aren't a playoff caliber team now, which means we won't be a championship level team in Tua's rookie contract window (if we can develop him at all behind this line), and we've squandered the picks and cap space that gave us the ability to dramatically change our fortunes.

You at this roster, technically its young, but there's nothing on this built for future success. If Waddle develops an impact player, that will be our only young impact player. All of our other guys who are impact players are either going to be exiting their primes, will be playing for other teams soon, or both.

Flores has brought the Patriot way here, but most people are just oblivious to the fact that the Patriots actually struggle mightily to develop young offensive talent.
 
Can’t convince me they should be near another draft

Let alone FA

Coaching is a disaster this year
 
Better, but Flores and Grier still need to go.

Unlike 3 years ago, we have a lot of good building blocks and a wide open cap.

On defense, Ogbah, Davis, Phillips, Xavien, Needham, and Holland all look like they’re going to be part of the medium term solution, and Van Ginkel, Wilkins, and Sieler are useful rotation guys, too. Personally I think Baker stinks, but maybe he works for the next staff as a weak side guy. That’s nearly a full starting defense.

On offense, Waddle and Gesicki both look like foundation pieces, and I have to imagine a competent OL coach can salvage a pair of quality starters out of the Austin Jackson, Eichenberg, Hunt, Kindley, Little, Deiter pu pu platter.

We need to spend a ton of money this off-season solving the OL, and we need to finally draft a RB. Amazingly, we probably need to revamp the WR unit yet again, too. But we have the resources to do all these things, and like I said, the defense is basically set.

The roster isn’t that far away given how much money we have to spend, especially if Tua is the real deal. But we need to get much, much better coaching and play-calling on offense. That isn’t going to happen under Flores.
 
We lack leaders and gutted our team of any of them.

Love em or hate em, Fitzpatrick was the heat and soul of the team.

Him not playing due to Covid last year on the road against Buffalo crushed the team emotionally. Doesn't seem like we have recovered.

Tua has to take over the leadership void. Unfortunate to him that such a rudderless organization has put so much at his feet. Figure out how to score and win us games, figure out how to not get hurt, also figure out how to lead us.
 
As far as production on the field, we are no better. I think we have more talent, more draft capital, and our cap space is much better than it was.....so yes and no.
 
Sirspud said:
Even that has some odd starters. O'Leary was NOT a starter at TE. Backfield had Kenyan Drake although Gase had him riding #2 to Gore even though Drake performed really well in 2017.
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You're right. Drake was on there and Gesicki too
 
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