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Bad Omen: Dolphins struggles against teams with good DL

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Most of Dolphins losses this year have been vs teams with tough DL. They disrupt our OL and Impact Tannehill and he O's production. The struggles in the Jags game were also due to this. If the Jags had a vet QB, the Dolphins lose that game. Going forward we will face a mix of teams with stud DLs and/or stud QBs...

vs Chargers (5-3)

- at Lions (6-2)

- vs Bills (5-3)

- at Broncos (6-1)

- at Jets

- vs Ravens (5-3)

- at Patriots (6-2)

- vs Vikings

- vs Jets

Lions, Bills, Ravens and even the Jets have strong DLs. And unlike the Jags, they won't have a rook QB under center to gift TDs (with the exception of the Jets).

It's very likely we drop all of these games and split with the Jets. That's without even including likely losses vs Broncos and Patriots.

Just losses against Lions, Bills and Ravens gives us 6 losses which most likely has us out of the playoffs. The schedule just isn't favorable for us this year for a playoff run...


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I agree that its becoming more obvious every week we need our offensive line to play well in order to accomplish what we want to do on offense scheme wise. Time and space. Hopefully Lazor can account t for this in the upcoming weeks and quicken the pace.
 
Unfortuntely the O line is still a work in progress, improved, but still needs some work. Also, we don't have enough high level talent on the offense to overcome it. The teams at the top of the AFC have lots of high level players. I agree with what JDW posted in another thread that Lazor has to try some different things to compensate, but still we might come up a little short. I would rather see us try and adjust some then go into those games with the attitude 'were gonna do what we do'.
 
The only games I'm reasonable confident about winning are against the Jets and Vikings. If we sweep the Jets and beat the Vikings, that brings us to 7 wins. If we pull out an unexpected win or two amongst the rest, that gets us to 8-8 or 9-7 ...right about where many of us thought we'd be. To finish with 10 wins would be something akin to a miracle, imo.
 
SkapePhin said:
Most of Dolphins losses this year have been vs teams with tough DL. They disrupt our OL and Impact Tannehill and he O's production. The struggles in the Jags game were also due to this. If the Jags had a vet QB, the Dolphins lose that game. Going forward we will face a mix of teams with stud DLs and/or stud QBs...

vs Chargers (5-3)

- at Lions (6-2)

- vs Bills (5-3)

- at Broncos (6-1)

- at Jets

- vs Ravens (5-3)

- at Patriots (6-2)

- vs Vikings

- vs Jets

Lions, Bills, Ravens and even the Jets have strong DLs. And unlike the Jags, they won't have a rook QB under center to gift TDs (with the exception of the Jets).

It's very likely we drop all of these games and split with the Jets. That's without even including likely losses vs Broncos and Patriots.

Just losses against Lions, Bills and Ravens gives us 6 losses which most likely has us out of the playoffs. The schedule just isn't favorable for us this year for a playoff run...


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WOW, no other teams in the NFL have trouble against teams with good DLs? There's a reason those good DLs are called good, ya know. The key is for us to adjust what we are doing in order to ultimately win the game, right? Well, that's what we did.
 
JTC111 said:
The only games I'm reasonable confident about winning are against the Jets and Vikings. If we sweep the Jets and beat the Vikings, that brings us to 7 wins. If we pull out an unexpected win or two amongst the rest, that gets us to 8-8 or 9-7 ...right about where many of us thought we'd be. To finish with 10 wins would be something akin to a miracle, imo.
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Fortunately none of those records will likely save Philbin's job.
 
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WOW, no other teams in the NFL have trouble against teams with good DLs? There's a reason those good DLs are called good, ya know. The key is for us to adjust what we are doing in order to ultimately win the game, right? Well, that's what we did.
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We actually didn't. The offense only scored 13 points - the same as the Jags. If Bortles didn't serve up 2 pick 6s, there is a good chance we lose the game on a FG.


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Meh. Dolphins struggle with winning teams. The Dolphins are 1-3 vs. teams who currently hold a winning record, the lone W coming in week 1 vs. the Pats.

The Pats were simply not the same team in the first few weeks. Anyone can see that. That offense is now clicking.

The Dolphins other 3 victories were vs. the Raiders(worst team in the league), the Jags(2nd worst team in the league), and the Bears, who are playing some really bad football over the past few weeks. None of those teams will win a lot. The Bears may win 5 or 6 games. The Jags and Raiders will likely not win 4 games combined.

The meat of the schedule is coming. Lets see how the Phins perform against the Lions, Ravens, Pats, Broncos, Bills, and Chargers. 6 games against good opponents. If we go 2-4 in those games, we will need to win all 3 remaining games against losing teams to get to 9-7. The way things appear, 9-7 would be real dicey as far as playoffs go.
 
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We actually didn't. The offense only scored 13 points - the same as the Jags. If Bortles didn't serve up 2 pick 6s, there is a good chance we lose the game on a FG.


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We had a two possession lead at the half. That changes how you call the game on offense and defense, does it not? You are comparing our offensive goals at that point to their offensive goals. They weren't the same. It is a team sport, and ours was winning at that point by 11 points. We did adjust. Not my fault you can't see it.
 
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We had a two possession lead at the half. That changes how you call the game on offense and defense, does it not? You are comparing our offensive goals at that point to their offensive goals. They weren't the same. It is a team sport, and ours was winning at that point by 11 points. We did adjust. Not my fault you can't see it.
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I guess Tannehill and Philbin must be morons too then because they essentially echoed what I said in their press conferences... Tannehill certainly didn't think the offense performed well enough to merit credit for the win.


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Yeah the offense only scored 13. But had D wanted to shut us down. We scored on D to help the cause. Good team win. But we need to do better and counter the DL not play to them.
Plenty to say this was bad or wasn't. We won. Last year we lose a game like this.
We could have a safety and win it don't matter. I love to see flawless execution but that is a way off. Just win and keep hitting it hard.
 
We'll see.

Here's the way I look at it:

Tannehill has averaged 6.5 "good" games a season (88+ passer rating) his first 2 seasons, you would hope that would improve to 8 or 9 especially with an "upgrade" at offensive coordinator and a lot of resources put into the offense. We're typically able to win when he plays well as our 14-1 record can attest. We've already won twice when he hasn't played well, and he has 2 good games so far this season. So if Tannehill can play well in 8 games on the season (or 6 more), which shouldn't be a big ask, then just that should get us to 9 or 10 wins. If we're able to keep winning the odd game he doesn't play well in then we should win 10 at the very least.

The only questions for me is can Tannehill catch fire and give us 5 or 6 good games of our last 9? Can the defense win us another game or two in the meantime?

We'll see.
 
i've noticed this too....but, weird since our OL goes up against a strong DL unit each week in practice.
 
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