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If you had to build up an offense for the Miami Dolphins using any Dolphins players through the eras who would make the roster? Here's what I've got, and it looks pretty dang unbeatable on paper, but who knows right?

QB - Dan Marino (Backup QB Bob Griese)
FB - Larry Czonka
RB - Ricky Williams (Can anyone imagine Ricky and Dan on the same team?)
WR- Mark Clayton
WR- Mark Duper
WR- Paul Warfield
TE - Randy McMichael
1972 O-Line (While it's obvious that the older lines were smaller you can't argue with the way this unit worked. As good as I think Czonka was I think he owed a lot of success to this special unit)

Any thoughts?
 
I'd put Chambers on the WR list just because of his raw talent and ability. He should put himself among the best this year.
 
I'd put Chambers in there. I love McDuffie & he was Mr. Consistent but......

Could you imagine Marino dropping back with Duper, Clayton, & Chambers?
 
72 O-line ? LOL . That O-line would get destroyed today.. The players are much bigger, faster and better today.. Heck, two o-linemen from 72 were under 240 pounds.. They would get absolutely mauled like ragdolls in today's league.

Even Pro Bowl Center Dwight Stephenson in the 80's was only 255 pounds. I cringe at the thought of what todays Pittsburgh defense would do to that 1972 Miami O-line in their prime. Ricky would have minus 79 yards and Marino sacked 27 times. LOL !!
 
PAUL WARFIELD????? Hall of Famer not listed?????
 
MastR_EvaluatoR said:
72 O-line ? LOL . That O-line would get destroyed today.. The players are much bigger, faster and better today.. Heck, two o-linemen from 72 were under 240 pounds.. They would get absolutely mauled like ragdolls in today's league.

Even Pro Bowl Center Dwight Stephenson in the 80's was only 255 pounds. I cringe at the thought of what todays Pittsburgh defense would do to that 1972 Miami O-line in their prime. Ricky would have minus 79 yards and Marino sacked 27 times. LOL !!
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What do you think it was, a different species? If the same players were in today's environs they would have the benefit of superior weight training, nutrition and know-how all the way through school and into the NFL. I guess you reject a Mark Spitz as a great swimmer because his times wouldn't make a semifinal today. Meanwhile, stick him at age 16 today and see who is faster in a few years, himself or the current crop.

At some point you have to default to basic ability. There is no question some of the older linemen were superior athletes and players, regardless of the playing weight. There is no way a Larry Little or Dwight Stephenson can be left off the alltime Dolphin roster. I would put Keuchenberg in there as well. The tackles are more of a debate.

But the primary advantage that crop had was sheer attitude. We wanted to run and therefore we did. In subsequent decades if the first handful of running plays are stuffed, we often gave up for the balance of the game. I became much less of a Dolphin fan during the Marino years as a result. Yeah, I still follow the team but it's never been quite the same as the '70s and early '80s, probably because I appreciate the physical aspect of the sport and the statistical realities, and this franchise has basically pretended the "run the ball often, pass the ball well" truisms apply to the remainder of the league, but not necessarily us. We seemingly want to believe we can get away with only one of the two.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
What do you think it was, a different species? If the same players were in today's environs they would have the benefit of superior weight training, nutrition and know-how all the way through school and into the NFL. I guess you reject a Mark Spitz as a great swimmer because his times wouldn't make a semifinal today. Meanwhile, stick him at age 16 today and see who is faster in a few years, himself or the current crop.

At some point you have to default to basic ability. There is no question some of the older linemen were superior athletes and players, regardless of the playing weight. There is no way a Larry Little or Dwight Stephenson can be left off the alltime Dolphin roster. I would put Keuchenberg in there as well. The tackles are more of a debate.

But the primary advantage that crop had was sheer attitude. We wanted to run and therefore we did. In subsequent decades if the first handful of running plays are stuffed, we often gave up for the balance of the game. I became much less of a Dolphin fan during the Marino years as a result. Yeah, I still follow the team but it's never been quite the same as the '70s and early '80s, probably because I appreciate the physical aspect of the sport and the statistical realities, and this franchise has basically pretended the "run the ball often, pass the ball well" truisms apply to the remainder of the league, but not necessarily us. We seemingly want to believe we can get away with only one of the two.
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For crying out loud where did I say Little or Kuech should be left off the all-time dolphins roster ? Where did you make that up ? Your so desperate to twist an argument ??

What I said was , today, Kuechenberg and crew would get physically manhandled in every way, shape and form against today's defensive lines.. They would get crushed.. These D-linemen now can squat 650+ pounds for reps , and bench over 500+ for reps ... I know, a few NFL players work out at my gym.. Back in those days in 1972, weight lifting wasn't even a requirement to play ball.. They weren't NEARLY as strong as they could have been

The defensive players today would eat those 72 O-Linemen for lunch. Not just physically through strength, but via speed as well.. Those small, weak and slow linemen wouldn't know what hit em.. Most likely, taken to the hospital after just a series or two of getting annihilated.

All you have to back anything up is say they had an "attitude" to block . Well I dont care how bad you want to run your head through a brick wall, go ahead and run into it and the brick wall will win because of physics. I'll bet on the wall despite your so called "attitude" to run your head through it.. I think that sums up the hard-headedness of your post..

And today's defensive lines would be relative "moving" brick walls for the older linemen. Did you see what Baltimore did today against the Bucs ? My goodness if todays Baltimore D-line went up against the Dolphins 72 O-line they'd put em in the hospital and into a quick early retirement !

Bottomline..
 
Who would be the coach? No defensive players mentioned? How about back ups? Oh yeah now let me see you make it fit in under the salary cap! Buy yourself a madden football game and have fun with it. Sorry Im just busting chops but your point is well taken, MIAMI has had some great players through out the years! Dolphins Rule!!!!!!!!!!! Miami @ home in feburary is the game to watch this season.
 
QB- Dan Marino
QB- Bob Griese
HB- Mercury Morris
HB-Ricky Williams
FB- Larry Csonka
WR- Mark Duper
WR- Mark Clayton
WR- Chris Chambers
WR- Paul Warfield
WR- OJ Mcduffie
TE- Randy McMichael
TE- Keith Jackson
 
I would have to add a position and an all time favorite dolphin of mine.
P-Reggie Roby (RIP)
Who would you rather have as a kicker, Pete Stoyo or Mare?
 
dominizzo said:
QB- Dan Marino
QB- Bob Griese
HB- Mercury Morris
HB-Ricky Williams
FB- Larry Csonka
WR- Mark Duper
WR- Mark Clayton
WR- Chris Chambers
WR- Paul Warfield
WR- OJ Mcduffie
TE- Randy McMichael
TE- Keith Jackson
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I would put Nat Moore instead of Chambers. Moore had better hands.
 
The Blueprint said:
I'd put Chambers in there. I love McDuffie & he was Mr. Consistent but......

Could you imagine Marino dropping back with Duper, Clayton, & Chambers?
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I don't need to imagine.. I personally saw Marino dropping back with Duper, Clayton and Moore in the orange bowl many times . That was better than your setup.

Nat Moore was one of the all-time smartest receivers I have ever seen.. He had over 7800 yards , 78 touchdowns and averaged 15 yards per reception in his career with the smoothest running and softest hands I have ever seen.. Oh, and did I mention he was incredibly smart ?
 
Awsi Dooger said:
Yeah, I still follow the team but it's never been quite the same as the '70s and early '80s, probably because I appreciate the physical aspect of the sport and the statistical realities, and this franchise has basically pretended the "run the ball often, pass the ball well" truisms apply to the remainder of the league, but not necessarily us. We seemingly want to believe we can get away with only one of the two.
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Yeah we never figured out that you have to run the ball and have balance on offense.
 
MastR_EvaluatoR said:
I don't need to imagine.. I personally saw Marino dropping back with Duper, Clayton and Moore in the orange bowl many times . That was better than your setup.

Nat Moore was one of the all-time smartest receivers I have ever seen.. He had over 7800 yards , 78 touchdowns and averaged 15 yards per reception in his career with the smoothest running and softest hands I have ever seen.. Oh, and did I mention he was incredibly smart ?
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Yes he was. He was probably the first Dolphin WR I have good memories of. In his prime he had great hands and was definitely a top 5 receiver in late 70's early 80's circa 79'-83'. Eventhough I was young I remember him making some awesome circus catches and clutch catches when it mattered the most.
 
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