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Big O's message to Tua

I won’t listen to it, but if he’s talking about how Tua can avoid injury, the answer isn’t getting rid of the ball faster. The answer is Tua has to learn how to not fight to keep every play alive and he has to learn how to fall and protect himself while getting tackled or hit.
 
Tua can’t learn how to not get concussed. He didn’t even take that much impact to the head relative to other NFL players on every play. Not everyone’s brain is built the same. He already gets rid of the ball quickly.

Also, he lost me as soon as he said he can’t be Allen, Mahommes, etc. , that’s who we as fans should want at QB. Tua is not Brees.
 
rickd13 said:
I won’t listen to it, but if he’s talking about how Tua can avoid injury, the answer isn’t getting rid of the ball faster. The answer is Tua has to learn how to not fight to keep every play alive and he has to learn how to fall and protect himself while getting tackled or hit.
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It does, speaks of getting rid of the football faster, but what I like about the comment, is how he sees Tua as a very good football player with the potential to have an amazing football career.
Some advices here about how to learn on protect his self on the hits, the way of falling and others, I agree.
But it is nice to see the perception that Tua's potential is there.
 
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Yeah I guess so just the problem is two of his concussions occurred well after he released the ball. Refs need to do a better job protecting him meanwhile they are calling roughing on one of the cleanest sacks you’ll ever see on Philips
 
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Sticky Gloves said:
Tua needs to learn how to fall down better. That really needs to be his offseason goal.
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How is he going to learn to fall down? We're talking about a handful of plays per season. He's slung to the ground and his head is on the opposite side of that. He can't relocate his head. And heads are so heavy they tend to jostle around, as evidenced by those slow motion car crash simulations.

That topic sounds good but the practical application is almost zero. There's no way to avoid those handful of whiplash plays per season, when a much larger player is tossing him around. Tua needs better helmeting.

He does need to learn how to be more cautious while running upfield. Tua has long been overly confident and reckless on those plays and somehow even moreso in the NFL. If we want to say he needs lessons on that type of play, I agree. But very, very seldom does a quarterback make meaningful improvement in that area. You either own the ability to quickly make yourself small, or you don't. Griese and Tarkenton didn't have to be taught. Nor Russell Wilson. Robert Griffin never would have figured it out if he spent 15 years in the league.

I didn't watch the video. Tua definitely needs to get rid of the ball quicker, for production purposes along with health. Ever since his rookie season I've cringed when he pauses in the pocket. The longer the play goes, the more his lefty advantage is nullified, and the more his comparatively weak arm becomes a factor. Elite athletes at the position benefit from extending the play. Tua does not qualify.
 
I'm not a weight-lifter but I would think he could work on his neck and shoulder muscles to help. Boxers specifically target those muscles to help them take a punch.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
How is he going to learn to fall down? We're talking about a handful of plays per season. He's slung to the ground and his head is on the opposite side of that. He can't relocate his head. And heads are so heavy they tend to jostle around, as evidenced by those slow motion car crash simulations.

That topic sounds good but the practical application is almost zero. There's no way to avoid those handful of whiplash plays per season, when a much larger player is tossing him around. Tua needs better helmeting.

He does need to learn how to be more cautious while running upfield. Tua has long been overly confident and reckless on those plays and somehow even moreso in the NFL. If we want to say he needs lessons on that type of play, I agree. But very, very seldom does a quarterback make meaningful improvement in that area. You either own the ability to quickly make yourself small, or you don't. Griese and Tarkenton didn't have to be taught. Nor Russell Wilson. Robert Griffin never would have figured it out if he spent 15 years in the league.

I didn't watch the video. Tua definitely needs to get rid of the ball quicker, for production purposes along with health. Ever since his rookie season I've cringed when he pauses in the pocket. The longer the play goes, the more his lefty advantage is nullified, and the more his comparatively weak arm becomes a factor. Elite athletes at the position benefit from extending the play. Tua does not qualify.
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Completely disagree. It's very practical. They teach you to fall down properly in various disciplines. Judo for example.

Tua's body basically goes limp, and he allows the defender to do whatever it wants. It's a big problem if he's going have a future.

Then there's stuff like this:
www.seniorsafetyreviews.com

The Art of Falling Safely: Learning From Tom Brady - SeniorSafetyReviews.com

With over 30% of adults over the age of 65 falling each year, knowing how to fall is just as important as learning how to avoid... Read More
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simplifaster.com

Why We Should Teach Athletes How to Fall - SimpliFaster

Coach Chris Tocco believes all injury prevention strategies should start with learning how to properly fall, a skill that athletes can use throughout the rest of their lives. This article details, with videos, drills that teach athletes how to fall correctly so they can continue with the play...
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My message to Tua.

If your not gonna make major changes to how you take hits.... like Tuck your damn chin when going down to the ground. Then retire and save us all the time of watching you go down like a sack of potatoes Every 5 weeks.
 
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