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Let's take a break for the "old coot, young hotties" jokes for just a minute, OK?

Bill Belichick vs Don Shula

I guess this is just another one of those things I'll never quite understand.....

Don Shula, 26 years at Miami: 392 games, 257-133-2 record, win percentage: .659, 2 Lombardi trophies

Bill Belichick, 24 years at New England: 387 games, 266-121 record, win percentage: .687, 6 Lombardi trophies

If we are forced to compare tenures, it's not even close. No matter what you think of how it was achieved and I'm sure most will act like one of two things happened for Bill....1) he cheated (though no one has a real explanation how he benefited whatsoever or how the advantage was actually gained) or 2) he had Brady. And if that helps you sleep at night, that's fine.

I'm sorry but when comparing the tenures that matter, Shula in Miami and Belichick in New England, Belichick wins hands down. The only way Don Shula is ahead is if you're telling me that you care about two other things; Don Shula's time with the Baltimore Colts or Bill Belichick's time with the Cleveland Browns.

And quite frankly, I really don't care much about either of those things. I care about Shula's accomplishments with our team, THAT'S IT! So in short, I've always kind of considered that battle over with and there are many reasons for it. Yes, you can say Bill always skirted rules for any edge possible -- and in doing so, we as Miami fans will HAVE TO FORGET about the fact that we kept the tarp off the field in Miami for the AFC's signature event in 1982 to go the super bowl, thus not allowing either team to gain traction in any sort of passing game when we played the New York Jets in January 1983. Or we'll just forget that the Dolphins tampered to get Don Shula to begin with away from the Baltimore Colts. Miami surrendered a first round pick for this. (Carroll Rosenbloom was only too happy to do this as he was still pissed that Shula lost to the Jets in super bowl 3) We call this selective amnesia by the way. Teams and coaches ALL do this incidentally. They try to gain any edge possible to further their cause. It's not just Bill and the Pats who have this in their DNA.

There's some validity to say that Shula did it with an array of QBs over different eras where Brady was the one workhorse who Bill was attached to throughout his success and I guess there's some truth to that too.

But in the end, how many of you think that Shula's Miami tenure was better than Belichick's New England tenure? How many of you realize that Bill won this one long ago? He won more games, more trophies and did it in less years/games played. Are any of you really thinking about Shula 347, Bellichick 333? Really? Shula by 14 games huh? Just know that if you care and choose to view things through this stat, then it means you care about the men's Colts and Browns tenures. I guess I just don't.

Anyway, my long winded rant is over about another topic that I just never understood the arguing about. Carry on!
 
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Shula won with very different teams.
Shula never cheated.
Fat bald sad man Belicheat is just that .
Recruitment from him lol he is probably there to recruit his next girlfriend not a football player.
Without Brady he is was and forever will be nothing.
 
Shula never cheated.
Really? How do you know this? Did you see my one example or not?
Shula won with very different teams.
Shula never cheated.
Fat bald sad man Belicheat is just that .
Recruitment from him lol he is probably there to recruit his next girlfriend not a football player.
Without Brady he is was and forever will be nothing.
Feel better, long suffering fan? Will you sleep better now? I presented facts, you presented your version of history. Your own spin and conjecture. Congrats on a clearly unbiased post. (sarcasm)
 
Let's take a break for the "old coot, young hotties" jokes for just a minute, OK?

Bill Belichick vs Don Shula

I guess this is just another one of those things I'll never quite understand.....

Don Shula, 26 years at Miami: 392 games, 257-133-2 record, win percentage: .659, 2 Lombardi trophies

Bill Belichick, 24 years at New England: 387 games, 266-121 record, win percentage: .687, 6 Lombardi trophies

If we are forced to compare tenures, it's not even close. No matter what you think of how it was achieved and I'm sure most will act like one of two things happened for Bill....1) he cheated (though no one has a real explanation how he benefited whatsoever or how the advantage was actually gained) or 2) he had Brady. And if that helps you sleep at night, that's fine.

I'm sorry but when comparing the tenures that matter, Shula in Miami and Belichick in New England, Belichick wins hands down. The only way Don Shula is ahead is if you're telling me that you care about two other things; Don Shula's time with the Baltimore Colts or Bill Belichick's time with the Cleveland Browns.

And quite frankly, I really don't care much about either of those things. I care about Shula's accomplishments with our team, THAT'S IT! So in short, I've always kind of considered that battle over with and there are many reasons for it. Yes, you can say Bill always skirted rules for any edge possible -- and in doing so, we as Miami fans will HAVE TO FORGET about the fact that we kept the tarp off the field in Miami for the AFC's signature event in 1982 to go the super bowl, thus not allowing either team to gain traction in any sort of passing game when we played the New York Jets in January 1983. Or we'll just forget that the Dolphins tampered to get Don Shula to begin with away from the Baltimore Colts. Miami surrendered a first round pick for this. (Carroll Rosenbloom was only too happy to do this as he was still pissed that Shula lost to the Jets in super bowl 3) We call this selective amnesia by the way. Teams and coaches ALL do this incidentally. They try to gain any edge possible to further their cause. It's not just Bill and the Pats who have this in their DNA.

There's some validity to say that Shula did it with an array of QBs over different eras where Brady was the one workhorse who Bill was attached to throughout his success and I guess there's some truth to that too.

But in the end, how many of you think that Shula's Miami tenure was better than Belichick's New England tenure? How many of you realize that Bill won this one long ago? He won more games, more trophies and did it in less years/games played. Are any of you really thinking about Shula 347, Bellichick 333? Really? Shula by 14 games huh? Just know that if you care and choose to view things through this stat, then it means you care about the men's Colts and Browns tenures. I guess I just don't.

Anyway, my long winded rant is over about another topic that I just never understood the arguing about. Carry on!
We all have things we will never understand and that’s ok. It gives the world a broad pallet. For me (what I will never understand) it is how a fan of the Dolphins could harbor the slightest thought that BB is better than Shula.
 
We all have things we will never understand and that’s ok. It gives the world a broad pallet. For me (what I will never understand) it is how a fan of the Dolphins could harbor the slightest thought that BB is better than Shula.
I will never understand what one has to do with the other. That’s like saying Chad Henne was a better QB than Tom Brady because I’m a Dolphins fan.
 
Really? How do you know this? Did you see my one example or not?

Feel better, long suffering fan? Will you sleep better now? I presented facts, you presented your version of history. Your own spin and conjecture. Congrats on a clearly unbiased post. (sarcasm)
Your example of the tarp with Shula is very different from what Belichik did. The tarp created the same disadvantage for both teams. How Miami hired Shula was a violation of the hiring practices in the NFL at the time but it was not cheating to alter the outcome of a game. Patriots did a very similar move with Belichik when they hired him away from the Jets.

Spygate ONLY benefited Belichik's team and it put the other team at a disadvantage.
Deflategate ONLY benefitted Belichik's team and it put the other team at a disadvantage.
Belichik was accused of cheating several other times but was not penalized.
The combined penalties for the two scandals Belichik got caught cheating was:
  • 500,000 fine for Belichik
  • 250,000 fine for Patriots
  • Loss of a FIRST round draft pick
  • Brady suspended for four games
  • Patriots fined a MILLION dollars
  • Patriots lost TWO draft picks ( a first and fourth)

Let's compare that to how may times Don Shula was penalized for cheating
  • ZERO times
You can make any argument you like about who was the best coach based on wins/losses and Super Bowl appearances and wins, Belichik never had a Perfect Season and he can't carry Shula's water bottle when it comes to character. There is good reason why Belichik was never on the NFL Rules Committee but Shula was. For me character counts a lot, for players and coaches. All things considered, Shula was the best to ever coach in the NFL...
 
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Say what you want about BB, his mastery of game planning is going to run roughshod over the ACC.
Roughshod? Clemson would like a word...
Seriously though...We shall see because UNC has not sniffed a ACC Championship since 1980?
Its safe to say we will find out first hand how much of a genius ol Bill is without the help of Brady under center.
In NE? It didn't go so well...

As a fan of any other team in the ACC but UNC...Its going to be interesting to see him excel or fall flat and go all Mack Brown in 5 seasons.
Bonus is that he will probably burn the time he would need to catch the real GOAT Shula
 
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Let's take a break for the "old coot, young hotties" jokes for just a minute, OK?

Bill Belichick vs Don Shula

I guess this is just another one of those things I'll never quite understand.....

Don Shula, 26 years at Miami: 392 games, 257-133-2 record, win percentage: .659, 2 Lombardi trophies

Bill Belichick, 24 years at New England: 387 games, 266-121 record, win percentage: .687, 6 Lombardi trophies

If we are forced to compare tenures, it's not even close. No matter what you think of how it was achieved and I'm sure most will act like one of two things happened for Bill....1) he cheated (though no one has a real explanation how he benefited whatsoever or how the advantage was actually gained) or 2) he had Brady. And if that helps you sleep at night, that's fine.

I'm sorry but when comparing the tenures that matter, Shula in Miami and Belichick in New England, Belichick wins hands down. The only way Don Shula is ahead is if you're telling me that you care about two other things; Don Shula's time with the Baltimore Colts or Bill Belichick's time with the Cleveland Browns.

And quite frankly, I really don't care much about either of those things. I care about Shula's accomplishments with our team, THAT'S IT! So in short, I've always kind of considered that battle over with and there are many reasons for it. Yes, you can say Bill always skirted rules for any edge possible -- and in doing so, we as Miami fans will HAVE TO FORGET about the fact that we kept the tarp off the field in Miami for the AFC's signature event in 1982 to go the super bowl, thus not allowing either team to gain traction in any sort of passing game when we played the New York Jets in January 1983. Or we'll just forget that the Dolphins tampered to get Don Shula to begin with away from the Baltimore Colts. Miami surrendered a first round pick for this. (Carroll Rosenbloom was only too happy to do this as he was still pissed that Shula lost to the Jets in super bowl 3) We call this selective amnesia by the way. Teams and coaches ALL do this incidentally. They try to gain any edge possible to further their cause. It's not just Bill and the Pats who have this in their DNA.

There's some validity to say that Shula did it with an array of QBs over different eras where Brady was the one workhorse who Bill was attached to throughout his success and I guess there's some truth to that too.

But in the end, how many of you think that Shula's Miami tenure was better than Belichick's New England tenure? How many of you realize that Bill won this one long ago? He won more games, more trophies and did it in less years/games played. Are any of you really thinking about Shula 347, Bellichick 333? Really? Shula by 14 games huh? Just know that if you care and choose to view things through this stat, then it means you care about the men's Colts and Browns tenures. I guess I just don't.

Anyway, my long winded rant is over about another topic that I just never understood the arguing about. Carry on!

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He's just making sure his son ends up as a Division 1 HC.
It's actually written into his contract that his son will be the successor. Heard it on NFL radio this morning. Now he's bringing Mike Lombardi as his "GM". The college game has certainly changed, it's all about the NIL $$$ and the portal, recruiting has taken a back seat. It's all about the money and the best of the best players (i.e. those with a shot at the NFL) will not only follow the money but go where they know they can be developed to get drafted. Belichick only took this job after getting everything he wanted in his contract, knowing there was plenty of money and with full knowledge his NFL cache will give him access to the cream of the crop talent-wise.
 
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Shula won with very different teams.
Shula never cheated.
Fat bald sad man Belicheat is just that .
Recruitment from him lol he is probably there to recruit his next girlfriend not a football player.
Without Brady he is was and forever will be nothing.
It's more like - without Belichick, Brady would have been nothing. - LOL
 
Really? How do you know this? Did you see my one example or not?

Feel better, long suffering fan? Will you sleep better now? I presented facts, you presented your version of history. Your own spin and conjecture. Congrats on a clearly unbiased post. (sarcasm)
He's still reeling from an election loss, me-thinks. - LOL
 
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