we would be 4-12 without Chad(at best)
We should've been a 4 win team last year, but had one of the worst headcoaches the NFL has ever seen. Since then we've added a franchise LT (top 5), and a much improved DL. Would we be a good team without Pennington? Probably not, but with average QB play, we would be at least a 6 win team.
those who don't think Chad is the MVP are either ignorant or have an agenda
I wonder how many people outside of Finheaven are saying that?
I hear all this hype about Peyton Manning, what a pile of *&%$^%.
He has earned every bit of that hype. As great as Pennington has been this year (97.4 Passer Rating), Peyton Manning has the exact same Passer Rating (97.4) over the last decade and has been one of the hardest quarterbacks to sack in the history of the NFL.
If Pennington can be credited for Ginn's increase in production, couldn't the same be said for Manning and his receivers?
Here's a good article about Manning's effect on his receivers, particularly Harrison.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=938
I don't think it's a coincidence that Brandon Stokley had what was his best year (by far) in that Colts offense. Up to the point when the Colts signed Brandon Stokley, he had never had more than 357 receiving yards and 2 touchdowns. In his first healthy season with the Colts, Stokley had 1,077 receiving yards and 10 receiving touchdowns. Since leaving that Colts offense, Stokley has had 2 solid seasons, totaling 1,163 receiving yards and 8 receiving touchdowns (28 games). Another interesting fact regarding Stokley, outside of his 2004 season, he's never had more than 5 receiving touchdowns in a season.
Seasonal averages (Stokley)
Baltimore: 442.67 receiving yards and 3.39 receiving touchdowns
Indianapolis: 747.71 receiving yards and 5.85 receiving touchdowns
Denver: 664.57 receiving yards and 4.57 receiving touchdowns
Amazing what a QB can do, and I'm not just talking about Manning. Stokley also put up much better numbers in Denver than he did in Baltimore, in large part because Cutler is much better than the quarterbacks he had throwing to him in Baltimore.
http://www.nfl.com/players/brandonstokley/profile?id=STO309337
Don't really want to hear about Indy's problems, they have talent out the wazoo.
The Colts had what was probably the worst running game in the NFL this year, and have a very poor run defense. The Colts have also been hit hard by the injury bug, losing both starting cornerbacks and Ryan Lilja for the year. Bob Sanders, Jeff Saturday, and Ryan Diem all missed games.
put Peyton on a team built by ten *&%^^%$^^ years of Wanny and Saban and see how he performs
Are you really suggesting that if Manning were in Pennington's place this year, that Pennington would've been better?
Chad had jack squat to work with, he embodies what the MVP is all about.
He may not have had Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark to work with, but let's lot exaggerate. Pennington had a very good running game to work with (unlike Manning), some very solid tight ends and a solid group of young wide receivers.
Manning is the Colts, he makes that entire team go around. Historically, the Colts have had a solid pass defense but a terrible run defense. When the Colts are putting up points, that forces their opponents to work against the Colts strength on defense (pass defense). If you're down by two scores, you're probably not going to run a whole lot, and it's usually harder to pass if the opposing team knows what's coming. This has been the Colts philosophy for years, get up on the scoreboard early and force the other team to pass. That's not a bad strategy when you have Peyton Manning on offense and Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis getting to the opposing QB on defense.
