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Bleacher Report Predicts Dolphins 6-10 record

Nublar7 said:
I said the difference between the two is likely a trip to the playoffs. No team is going to make the playoffs at 6-10, teams who go 9-7 have a decent chance.

A 7-9 team made the playoffs so never say never.

It doesn't happen every year, but it does happen.

One of those 9-7 teams were the New York Jets, who just happened to make the AFC Championship game.

Again, 9 win teams made the playoffs.

The Redskins made it as a wildcard that year with a 9-7 record.

9-7 gives you a chance to make the playoffs, 6-10 does not. You said there is no difference in winning 6-9 games or 1-4. Yet there is a HUGE difference, with 9 wins you are in the playoff hunt.
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I stated 9 wins is mediocre, and defined mediocre as finishing in the middle of the league in standings(and there for the draft). I used the 1-4 wins as an example for being defined as a team that just sucked.
For us, finishing between 6-9 wins will, most likely, earn us a draft pick in the top 18 picks. Just because we won 3 more games to "exceed expectations" doesn't mean its a good thing, an acceptable thing, and the only good it will do is have us picking just above the middle of the draft.

And i did miss the Redskins, so let me amend my statement: in the last 4 years a massive 3 out of 10 teams have entered the wildcard round of the playoffs with a 9-7 record. The other seven landed in the middle of the league standings. While you seem to want to focus on the 3 teams that made it, i look at the other 7 that missed.

And because the Cardinals and Seahawks won their division with subpar records means the AFC East will be won with subpar records? Well, we can look at that to. Of the 32 division winners over that same time period only 4 teams have won their division with a 9-7 or lower record. Tampa in '07(second place team finished 7-9), Chargers in '08(Broncos also finished with a 8-8 record), Arizona in '08(second place team finished 7-9), and Seahawks in '10(second place team 7-9).

If the Patriots do fall apart and finish 8-8 and below and we go on to win the division with 9 wins, i will gladly eat my crow. But, realistically, i think its safe to say they will hit at least double digit wins. If these are peoples expectations, that all the other teams around us will fall apart and we will climb up to a glorious 9-7 record, then what does that really say about the confidence in our front office?
 
Spesh said:
I stated 9 wins is mediocre, and defined mediocre as finishing in the middle of the league in standings(and there for the draft). I used the 1-4 wins as an example for being defined as a team that just sucked.
For us, finishing between 6-9 wins will, most likely, earn us a draft pick in the top 18 picks. Just because we won 3 more games to "exceed expectations" doesn't mean its a good thing, an acceptable thing, and the only good it will do is have us picking just above the middle of the draft.

And i did miss the Redskins, so let me amend my statement: in the last 4 years a massive 3 out of 10 teams have entered the wildcard round of the playoffs with a 9-7 record. The other seven landed in the middle of the league standings. While you seem to want to focus on the 3 teams that made it, i look at the other 7 that missed.

And because the Cardinals and Seahawks won their division with subpar records means the AFC East will be won with subpar records? Well, we can look at that to. Of the 32 division winners over that same time period only 4 teams have won their division with a 9-7 or lower record. Tampa in '07(second place team finished 7-9), Chargers in '08(Broncos also finished with a 8-8 record), Arizona in '08(second place team finished 7-9), and Seahawks in '10(second place team 7-9).

If the Patriots do fall apart and finish 8-8 and below and we go on to win the division with 9 wins, i will gladly eat my crow. But, realistically, i think its safe to say they will hit at least double digit wins. If these are peoples expectations, that all the other teams around us will fall apart and we will climb up to a glorious 9-7 record, then what does that really say about the confidence in our front office?
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Maybe you just didn't understand what I was saying. Again, this is what I said:

"It is not the same thing, the difference between 6 and 9 wins is likely a trip to the playoffs."

This was in reference to the post where you said this:

"People might expect 6 wins, but even if Sparano hits 9 thats still mediocre. Thats not so different then expecting us to win 1 game, then winning 4."

The point I was making is that 1 or 4 games is not the same as 6 or 9 wins. If you win 1 or 4 games you are not making the playoffs, no argument there. If you win 6 games, you are not making the playoffs, however if you win 9 games, playoffs is a distinct possibility. I didn't say a team was LIKELY to make the playoffs, I said the difference is likely a trip to the playoffs. Meaning it is possible with 9 wins but not with 6. Again, refuting your comparison that there is no difference between a 1-4 win season or a 6-9 win season.
 
Nublar7 said:
The guy who wrote the article is "a student at Boston University ". Don't waste your time with Bleacher report, it is just everyday people writing articles.
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Just like the armchair quaterbacks in forums.. hahaha

Truth be told. None of us know whats going to happen. Who knew we'd go from 1-15 to winning the division with noodle armed Pennington?
 
Dolphins have enough question marks that they could win 6 games or 12 games. Pointless discussion really. Rain check this til the bye week.
 
You can tell this guy did not watch the games last year. Yes ne scraped us but much of it was cause of special teams. Not d. Texans game will be tough but why is it a plus that they have a new d coordinator and a new scheme. They still have very little defensive talent on paper they look amazing but for the most part have trouble getting out of their own way and Mario Williams to olb is an awful move. Browns game Miami wins. No ifs ands or buts. San diego game will be tough. That's for sure but they lost a few front seven guys and really don't have great pass rush.
The jets game can go either way. Weather really plays a factor in this one. Who really knows. Giants game?? Giants team is in turmoil. They have no o linemen. No one to throe to. Kinda funny he picked them over us. losing three starters on your o line kills your team big time.
 
CA Dolfan said:
So for what it's worth they have us at 6-10. Losing our first two and final 3 games.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ions-outcomes-for-all-16-regular-season-games
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Ah yes, good ol rot gut Bleacher Report, as I said, I do not even open links to their trash garbage but here is one for you. Did not open this one either but it supposedly gives the 5 reasons we will make the playoffs.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/806350-miami-dolphins-5-reasons-why-theyre-a-playoff-team-in-2011

Garbage site made up of anyone who inquires about writing for them.
 
Nublar7 said:
Maybe you just didn't understand what I was saying. Again, this is what I said:

"It is not the same thing, the difference between 6 and 9 wins is likely a trip to the playoffs."

This was in reference to the post where you said this:

"People might expect 6 wins, but even if Sparano hits 9 thats still mediocre. Thats not so different then expecting us to win 1 game, then winning 4."

The point I was making is that 1 or 4 games is not the same as 6 or 9 wins. If you win 1 or 4 games you are not making the playoffs, no argument there. If you win 6 games, you are not making the playoffs, however if you win 9 games, playoffs is a distinct possibility. I didn't say a team was LIKELY to make the playoffs, I said the difference is likely a trip to the playoffs. Meaning it is possible with 9 wins but not with 6. Again, refuting your comparison that there is no difference between a 1-4 win season or a 6-9 win season.
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Bolded one of the differences between my supposed assertion and your claim about my assertion. Another is you didn't quote the entire statement(which i find highly amusing):

People might expect 6 wins, but even if Sparano hits 9 thats still mediocre. Thats not so different then expecting us to win 1 game, then winning 4. Yes, you did better then expected, but you still sucked.
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Your focusing on the exact numbers i posted, while i already explained it was an example. I'll try again:

1-4 wins is to suck what 6-9 wins is to mediocre. If you expect 1 win yet win 4, you exceeded expectations but still sucked. If you expect 6 wins yet win 9, you exceeded expectations but still are mediocre.
All of this was in response to your own first post asking if Sparano would be fired just because he exceeded expectations.

For all those predicting between 4-6 wins, do you endorse retaining Sparano if he wins between 7-9 wins? After all, he will have greatly exceeded your expectations.
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And i dont consider 4 out of 32 chances or 3 out of 10 chances to be "distinct".
 
Nublar7 said:
The guy who wrote the article is "a student at Boston University ". Don't waste your time with Bleacher report, it is just everyday people writing articles.
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yeah, i couldnt believe the hack stuff i was reading on their.
 
kud said:
Dolphins have enough question marks that they could win 6 games or 12 games. Pointless discussion really. Rain check this til the bye week.
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exactly ... i could easily say 10-6 instead of 6-10 who really knows how henne will play when the lights come on sept 12
 
Games in the nfl are usually decided by very few points. I highly doubt Miami lost enough and other gained enough for us to go backwards. Miamis d was not protected at all last year I expect the offense to be better which in turn should make the d better. I don't see this schedule and think we can't win everyone of these games besides maybe the eagles because Miami can't stop running qbs. I like the matchups. They should be in our favor.
 
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