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I know having Byron out definitely hurts out ability to run Cover 0 schemes and feel comfortable leaving both our outside CB’s on islands.

But everyone remembers we blitzed the hell out of Lamar and completely neutralized him last year. We were also far from the only ones that had success with this strategy.

Other teams like Pittsburgh had success playing him like this and Greg Roman hasn’t shown to have an answer to counter blitz heavy schemes to this point.

The key is blitzing him in a way where all the running gaps are accounted for. And you don’t want to let him feel comfortable and allow him to decide when he wants to beat you with his legs.

I’m just hoping to see the same aggressive defense we saw last year (despite Byron being out) on Sunday. You guys with me?







 
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coalesce said:
No doubt the Ravens have prepared for this, so Josh Boyer better have a Plan B for this. And just as important, will the Dolphins be able to handle the Ravens blitz?
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Definitely agree that we have our own problems here stemming from our offensive line situation.

But Boyer had all last season to adjust to teams playing Lamar with blitz schemes and he never found any way to counter.

Maybe a full off-season to address the issue was what they needed. But I think there could just be a deficiency with either Boyer’s game planning or Lamar’s response to heavy gap based blitz schemes that is simply exploitable.

Until they prove they can beat it, I don’t see how you don’t run a game plan that was consistently so effective last year against a QB that does have the potential to be very dangerous.
 
I'm sure this has been posted elsewhere, but for any who missed it, JB sheds some insight on the task at hand. Seems like he expects a heavy dose of runs. We have to stop that in order to get to blitz situations.

 
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ANUFan said:
The key is it doesn’t have to be “0”

Personally I’m weary of 0 without Byron on the other side. Needham is a good player. But he’s not a boundary guy and it shows.
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No, it doesn't have to be "0". Last week we showed one thing, and backed off into another. The goal is to obfuscate, and confuse.

I agree, a true cover 0 is a very risky proposition, but just the fact that we show it as a possibility gets into LJ's head. We can easily send Safeties, or Linebackers, while giving Needham help. Not "0", but not hard to morph into cover 1 if everyone is assignment sound.

It will be a chess match, and Jackson is no Grandmaster.
 
TheRevoltingBlob said:
I know having Byron out definitely hurts out ability to run Cover 0 schemes and feel comfortable leaving both our outside CB’s on islands.

But everyone remembers we blitzed the hell out of Lamar and completely neutralized him last year. We were also far from the only ones that had success with this strategy.

Other teams like Pittsburgh had success playing him like this and Greg Roman hasn’t shown to have an answer to counter blitz heavy schemes to this point.

The key is blitzing him in a way where all the running gaps are accounted for. And you don’t want to let him feel comfortable and allow him to decide when he wants to beat you with his legs.

I’m just hoping to see the same aggressive defense we saw last year (despite Byron being out) on Sunday. You guys with me?







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Totally agree. Need to put constant pressure on him. Their O-line is suspect and Fins should be able to stomp his ass!
 
ANUFan said:
The key is it doesn’t have to be “0”

Personally I’m weary of 0 without Byron on the other side. Needham is a good player. But he’s not a boundary guy and it shows.
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Yeah, I agree that adjustments can be made bc we don’t have Byron. And you’re right that it’s very obvious that Needham is more ideal in the slot.

But other teams successfully rattled Lamar with blitzes without quite going to the “0” extreme that we did last year.

There is a balance, but I just don’t want us to end up leaning too conservative just bc we don’t have Byron.
 
I'm sure that Harbaugh realized that the best way to counter the heavy blitz package is to run on us. If they stay ahead of the sticks we won't have a lot of chances to come after Lamar. So step #1 is to stop the run. That done I would come after him until he shows that he can defeat it. We need to also put a spy on Lamar, maybe Tindall, that guy hits like a missile and has some quicks!! We have a top notch defensive backfield even with Jones hurt. We've got guys that can pinch hit for Jones today in the zero blitz package. Kohou is looking very good and Crossen as well so we've got young guys we can plug in. Meanwhile Holland and B Jones are poised to become on of the best tandems in the game and Needham and X are both doing their usual great job. Final thought-I think our D-Line will match up well. Phillips, Seiler, Davis, Wilkins and Ogbah are all studs in their second year in this defense. I believe that unit will shine!!
 
BSQ said:
I'm sure that Harbaugh realized that the best way to counter the heavy blitz package is to run on us. If they stay ahead of the sticks we won't have a lot of chances to come after Lamar. So step #1 is to stop the run. That done I would come after him until he shows that he can defeat it. We need to also put a spy on Lamar, maybe Tindall, that guy hits like a missile and has some quicks!! We have a top notch defensive backfield even with Jones hurt. We've got guys that can pinch hit for Jones today in the zero blitz package. Kohou is looking very good and Crossen as well so we've got young guys we can plug in. Meanwhile Holland and B Jones are poised to become on of the best tandems in the game and Needham and X are both doing their usual great job. Final thought-I think our D-Line will match up well. Phillips, Seiler, Davis, Wilkins and Ogbah are all studs in their second year in this defense. I believe that unit will shine!!
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I do wish we’d given Tindall some playing time once we were comfortably ahead, bc we could definitely use his skill set in some of the upcoming games. Would’ve just like to see how ready he is.

Stopping the run is key this game. Our line is solid but our ILB’s are questionable. Roberts is supposed to be our “run stopping thumper” but he played especially poorly imo last game. Just looked slow to the football and I’m not sure what he’s bringing to the team at this point.

 
BSQ said:
I'm sure that Harbaugh realized that the best way to counter the heavy blitz package is to run on us. If they stay ahead of the sticks we won't have a lot of chances to come after Lamar. So step #1 is to stop the run. That done I would come after him until he shows that he can defeat it. We need to also put a spy on Lamar, maybe Tindall, that guy hits like a missile and has some quicks!! We have a top notch defensive backfield even with Jones hurt. We've got guys that can pinch hit for Jones today in the zero blitz package. Kohou is looking very good and Crossen as well so we've got young guys we can plug in. Meanwhile Holland and B Jones are poised to become on of the best tandems in the game and Needham and X are both doing their usual great job. Final thought-I think our D-Line will match up well. Phillips, Seiler, Davis, Wilkins and Ogbah are all studs in their second year in this defense. I believe that unit will shine!!
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Agree with everything, except Tindall as a spy. He may be ready for some limited spot/package duty, but I would be very surprised if he has learned all the nuances, intricacies, and assignments of this complex defense.

That's not to say he isn't capable, just that it's a lot to ask at this point. Being an effective "spy" requires reading, as well as reacting. Otherwise, the spy is just standing there looking in the backfield.

TBH, I'm not even big on the "spy" concept as a whole. It seems like a wasted defender. Better off if everyone just executes their assignments, play their gap responsibilities, and keep edge contain.
 
We can talk about blitzing Lamar all day long but remember that in order to get to the QB, you need to stop the run first and I'm not just talking about Lamar. Dobbins seems to be ready to play and he's a good RB......if you want to rush the passer you need to play and stop the run first.

OTOH, our offense needs to have some good drives that actually end up with TD's but for that to happen our defense has to get off the field.
 
TheRevoltingBlob said:
I know having Byron out definitely hurts out ability to run Cover 0 schemes and feel comfortable leaving both our outside CB’s on islands.

But everyone remembers we blitzed the hell out of Lamar and completely neutralized him last year. We were also far from the only ones that had success with this strategy.

Other teams like Pittsburgh had success playing him like this and Greg Roman hasn’t shown to have an answer to counter blitz heavy schemes to this point.

The key is blitzing him in a way where all the running gaps are accounted for. And you don’t want to let him feel comfortable and allow him to decide when he wants to beat you with his legs.

I’m just hoping to see the same aggressive defense we saw last year (despite Byron being out) on Sunday. You guys with me?







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Lamar and 'nem already said they've prep'd for it...but how can you possibly prep for what will be coming? Prepping for another game that's already over doesn't assure anything...Boyer would have to call the exact same game for them to have comfort in it, IF their preparations were perfect.

Not a prayer Boyer calls the same game, or has the same wrinkles in the approach.

I'm with ya!!!
 
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